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To Ottawa
Jason Robertson
Jake Debrusk

To Dallas
Filip Hronek

To Vancouver
9th 25th "insert prospect/player here from dallas. this is just a idea.
Actually, it's not that bad an idea. There were already rumors out there about a DeBrusk trade to the Senators, but I just couldn't see how it could work. But with Brady Tkachuk's departure, the landscape has shifted.

And if the Sens could ever swing this deal, Robertson and DeBrusk would more than compensate for the loss of Brady Tkachuk. I'm just not sure that Hronek by himself would be enough to move the needle for Dallas.

And it would be a ballsy move for the Canucks, basically sacrificing two of their most reliable veterans for two 2026 picks, who might not be in a position to help you for three seasons.

But if you're laying claim to a legitimate 'rebuild', then these are kind of deals you have to consider.
 
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I feel like big hog zito is smart enough to recognize the value and fit of Lankinen, and provide good value, perhaps the two second round picks.

Also allows the Canucks to take on a fill in goalie like Hill, Kuemper, Merzlikins etc for some other appropriate assets.
Assuming Demko isn't healthy one or more times next season, and have Tolopilo as an option.
 
Well then Brady shouldn't have been available - simple as that. Either he expands the list of teams he's open to going to, or one of those teams pony up. You're trading your face of the franchise - you don't hastenly do this type of move, you have to nail it, I don't think Ottawa nailed it at all.

I do agree with your point about all Canadian teams being on notice, with that being said. Unless a prospect is significantly better than his peers/on a different tier, as long as MAGA is a thing, you have to skip on the American.
Apparently players were saying he was checked out after the Olympics and already a huge distraction.

They can't afford to throw away next season to force him to open up his list, all he has to do is leak that he's going to ufa if it isn't his preferred destination and his value completely tanks while wasting the season for nothing.
 
My problem with the wholesale trading of vets like Pettersson, Debrusk, etc… is you are selling when their market value is at a low point. It's like being in the stock market when there is significant downturn.. You are locking in your losses and not recognizing that the market will ultimately bounce back.

Not saying that it is definite that such players will improve their value but I don't think their value will get much worse. Plus the elements around them should improve their tradeability. As the cap rises their contracts become less onerous. Also their buyouts become less concerning. Thus, in a backhanded way, their value increases.

Moreover, the Canucks are not in a position where clearing cap space is much of a concern. It is not like we need to clear cap space to have the money to bring players that can help us to win now. Other teams, say Edmonton, who are truly in a win now mode and moving cap anchors is critical. For Vancouver, getting more cap space is not currently a huge issue.

Another problem is that, in many cases, team will be talking about retention. I think they only have one slot left open so they need to be judicious in using it. Moreover, I would like the team to move into the future with as little retention as possible. If players can't be moved without retention then maybe just don’t trade them. Furthermore, using retention now removes the possibility of bringing free agents, on high pay, short term contracts and then trading them, with retention, later in the season.

Might also say that perhaps the change in coaches will allow some players to improve their play.

If you consider the players, individually. I'd say the following

E. Pettersson - I think Pettersson has played long enough in the same way, and at the same level, to say he is what he is. Clearly he is not worth what they are paying him, but he can contribute defensively and on the power play. There is also the possibility that he badly affects the so-called "room". But, even give that, trading him now is questionable. He may not give you high quality play or production, but the team, as it is, is better with him than without him. Plus you may have to attach assets just to unload his contract. I'd say ride it out with Pettersson until the changes in the cap and the reduction of his buyout make it easier to move him out. In this way you may avoid giving up something in the process..

DeBrusk - I don't know if it has ever been solidly established he wants out. If he has, best to move him. But if he has not made that clear, then I think the team should look for a better window than this off season to trade him. He is a recognized scorer at the NHL level. Streaky, (and Lord knows AWOL in the rest of the games at times) but someone who, if a team has a scorer go down, is tradeable at the dead line. I think you have to wait till a team has a need for someone like DeBrusk to get maximum value. I know people get totally frustrated with DeBrusk but getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him is not helping much.

Boeser- I've probably been harder on Boeser than anyone on this board. However, I liked the way Boeser finished the season and the way he took on the role of leader late in the season. Watching him in interviews and watching his play on the ice, I saw a much more relaxed and mature Boeser. I think he gets paid too much (although time will mitigate some of that concern) and he is prone to pretty dead play when he tires. But, I think you can go too far in stripping things down. Moreover, if Boeser can continue the production he showed over the last third of the year, you've got something that will bring back very good value.

Hronek - some suggestion that he could be traded for a high draft choice this year. If so, you would have to consider it. However, IMO next year sounds like a better opportunity to pick up real difference makers in the draft. I'm not sure this is the best time to trade him. The other point is that given the youth on our defense, you'd probably be wise to give them some needed support.

M. Pettersson -Right now he is at the lowest point in his career. You need to give him a chance to increase his value. Anger and knee jerk reactions are not going to help this team.

Hoglander - don't think you can get anything for him. Doubtful you ever will. But you might as well keep him around rather than giving up assets just to move his salary out.

Demko - again makes little sense trading him now. Only way he is going to acquire reasonable value is if he proves he is free of injury. Another case, where a team may give up true value if they need better goaltending heading into the playoffs.

In the past, the team has continually made reactive trades and buy outs. Often these moves have only made the situation worse. I believe that if we are in a rebuild then we need, in most cases, to ride it out with unproductive players. Any rebuild is going to require patience. And the team should be trying to maximize the return for players by showing this kind of patience
 
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My problem with the wholesale trading of vets like Pettersson, Debrusk, etc… is you are selling when their market value is at a low point. It's like being in the stock market when there is significant downturn.. You are locking in your losses and not recognizing that the market will ultimately bounce back.

Not saying that it is definite that such players will improve their value but I don't think their value will get much worse. Plus the elements around them should improve their tradeability. As the cap rises their contracts become less onerous. Also their buyouts become less concerning. Thus, in a backhanded way, their value increases.

Moreover, the Canucks are not in a position where clearing cap space is much of a concern. It is not like we need to clear cap space to have the money to bring players that can help us to win now. Other teams, say Edmonton, who are truly in a win now mode and moving cap anchors is critical. For Vancouver, getting more cap space is not currently a huge issue.

Another problem is that, in many cases, team will be talking about retention. I think they only have one slot left open so they need to be judicious in using it. Moreover, I would like the team to move into the future with as little retention as possible. If players can't be moved without retention then maybe just don’t trade them. Furthermore, using retention now removes the possibility of bringing free agents, on high pay, short term contracts and then trading them, with retention, later in the season.

Might also say that perhaps the change in coaches will allow some players to improve their play.

If you consider the players, individually. I'd say the following

E. Pettersson - I think Pettersson has played long enough in the same way, and at the same level, to say he is what he is. Clearly he is not worth what they are paying him, but he can contribute defensively and on the power play. There is also the possibility that he badly affects the so-called "room". But, even give that, trading him now is questionable. He may not give you high quality play or production, but the team, as it is, is better with him than without him. Plus you may have to attach assets just to unload his contract. I'd say ride it out with Pettersson until the changes in the cap and the reduction of his buyout make it easier to move him out. In this way you may avoid giving up something in the process..

DeBrusk - I don't know if it has ever been solidly established he wants out. If he has, best to move him. But if he has not made that clear, then I think the team should look for a better window than this off season to trade him. He is a recognized scorer at the NHL level. Streaky, (and Lord knows AWOL in the rest of the games at times) but someone who, if a team has a scorer go down, is tradeable at the dead line. I think you have to wait till a team has a need for someone like DeBrusk to get maximum value. I know people get totally frustrated with DeBrusk but getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him is not helping much.

Boeser- I've probably been harder on Boeser than anyone on this board. However, I liked the way Boeser finished the season and the way he took on the role of leader late in the season. Watching him in interviews and watching his play on the ice, I saw a much more relaxed and mature Boeser. I think he gets paid too much (although time will mitigate some of that concern) and he is prone to pretty dead play when he tires. But, I think you can go too far in stripping things down. Moreover, if Boeser can continue the production he showed over the last third of the year, you've got something that will bring back very good value.

Hronek - some suggestion that he could be traded for a high draft choice this year. If so, you would have to consider it. However, IMO next year sounds like a better opportunity to pick up real difference makers in the draft. I'm not sure this is the best time to trade him. The other point is that given the youth on our defense, you'd probably be wise to give them some needed support.

M. Pettersson -Right now he is at the lowest point in his career. You need to give him a chance to increase his value. Anger and knee jerk reactions are not going to help this team.

Hoglander - don't think you can get anything for him. Doubtful you ever will. But you might as well keep him around rather than giving up assets just to move his salary out.

Demko - again makes little sense trading him now. Only way he is going to acquire reasonable value is if he proves he is free of injury. Another case, where a team may give up true value if they need better goaltending heading into the playoffs.

In the past, the team has continually made reactive trades and buy outs. Often these moves have only made the situation worse. I believe that if we are in a rebuild then we need, in most cases, to ride it out with unproductive players. Any rebuild is going to require patience. And the team should be trying to maximize the return players by showing this kind of patience
Demko you need to Pump and Dump if he plays healthy up to the TDL.
Talk to him and make the trade 100%
I agree on M-Petey, his value will only go up, that being said, the prices right now are kinda crazy.
Hronek give it another year, no need 2 force anything unless you get a massive haul.
Hoglander, just keep him.
Boeser, I am open to moving him, but fine with keeping him also, good guy.
Debrusk absolutely has 2 be moved.
EP40, again, leaning towards trading him, but only if you get a decent package.
Don't need a Haul, but a package that makes sense
 
On a side note, who’s going to be competing against Florida in the next few years? Both Tkachuk’s, Bennett, Barkov, Reinhardt, Marchand, Ekblad, Forsling, Jones, Lundell etc. good time to rebuild as this team will own the playoffs the next 5 years and should be a dynasty with roster construction. I hope RJ is up to the challenge because that is a very impressive roster that’s built to dominate in the playoffs.

Crazy!
 
My problem with the wholesale trading of vets like Pettersson, Debrusk, etc… is you are selling when their market value is at a low point. It's like being in the stock market when there is significant downturn.. You are locking in your losses and not recognizing that the market will ultimately bounce back.

Not saying that it is definite that such players will improve their value but I don't think their value will get much worse. Plus the elements around them should improve their tradeability. As the cap rises their contracts become less onerous. Also their buyouts become less concerning. Thus, in a backhanded way, their value increases.

Moreover, the Canucks are not in a position where clearing cap space is much of a concern. It is not like we need to clear cap space to have the money to bring players that can help us to win now. Other teams, say Edmonton, who are truly in a win now mode and moving cap anchors is critical. For Vancouver, getting more cap space is not currently a huge issue.

Another problem is that, in many cases, team will be talking about retention. I think they only have one slot left open so they need to be judicious in using it. Moreover, I would like the team to move into the future with as little retention as possible. If players can't be moved without retention then maybe just don’t trade them. Furthermore, using retention now removes the possibility of bringing free agents, on high pay, short term contracts and then trading them, with retention, later in the season.

Might also say that perhaps the change in coaches will allow some players to improve their play.

If you consider the players, individually. I'd say the following

E. Pettersson - I think Pettersson has played long enough in the same way, and at the same level, to say he is what he is. Clearly he is not worth what they are paying him, but he can contribute defensively and on the power play. There is also the possibility that he badly affects the so-called "room". But, even give that, trading him now is questionable. He may not give you high quality play or production, but the team, as it is, is better with him than without him. Plus you may have to attach assets just to unload his contract. I'd say ride it out with Pettersson until the changes in the cap and the reduction of his buyout make it easier to move him out. In this way you may avoid giving up something in the process..

DeBrusk - I don't know if it has ever been solidly established he wants out. If he has, best to move him. But if he has not made that clear, then I think the team should look for a better window than this off season to trade him. He is a recognized scorer at the NHL level. Streaky, (and Lord knows AWOL in the rest of the games at times) but someone who, if a team has a scorer go down, is tradeable at the dead line. I think you have to wait till a team has a need for someone like DeBrusk to get maximum value. I know people get totally frustrated with DeBrusk but getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him is not helping much.

Boeser- I've probably been harder on Boeser than anyone on this board. However, I liked the way Boeser finished the season and the way he took on the role of leader late in the season. Watching him in interviews and watching his play on the ice, I saw a much more relaxed and mature Boeser. I think he gets paid too much (although time will mitigate some of that concern) and he is prone to pretty dead play when he tires. But, I think you can go too far in stripping things down. Moreover, if Boeser can continue the production he showed over the last third of the year, you've got something that will bring back very good value.

Hronek - some suggestion that he could be traded for a high draft choice this year. If so, you would have to consider it. However, IMO next year sounds like a better opportunity to pick up real difference makers in the draft. I'm not sure this is the best time to trade him. The other point is that given the youth on our defense, you'd probably be wise to give them some needed support.

M. Pettersson -Right now he is at the lowest point in his career. You need to give him a chance to increase his value. Anger and knee jerk reactions are not going to help this team.

Hoglander - don't think you can get anything for him. Doubtful you ever will. But you might as well keep him around rather than giving up assets just to move his salary out.

Demko - again makes little sense trading him now. Only way he is going to acquire reasonable value is if he proves he is free of injury. Another case, where a team may give up true value if they need better goaltending heading into the playoffs.

In the past, the team has continually made reactive trades and buy outs. Often these moves have only made the situation worse. I believe that if we are in a rebuild then we need, in most cases, to ride it out with unproductive players. Any rebuild is going to require patience. And the team should be trying to maximize the return for players by showing this kind of patience
So you basically want to do nothing, keep all these over paid, under performing players and run back the same 32nd place team

You need as many picks in the draft ina serious rebuild as possible and the longer you delay that the longer a rebuild you are in.

Hronek's value will never be higher than it is now.
 
So you basically want to do nothing, keep all these over paid, under performing players and run back the same 32nd place team

You need as many picks in the draft ina serious rebuild as possible and the longer you delay that the longer a rebuild you are in.

Hronek's value will never be higher than it is now.
Agree with most of this, except the Hronek part.
Hronek is gonna have the same value next year imo
 
Apparently players were saying he was checked out after the Olympics and already a huge distraction.

They can't afford to throw away next season to force him to open up his list, all he has to do is leak that he's going to ufa if it isn't his preferred destination and his value completely tanks while wasting the season for nothing.

Until it comes from someone other than Renaud Lavoie, I'm not putting much weight behind those accusations.

They were negotiating with teams on his preferred list by all accounts anyways, this made no difference.

You seriously think Bill Zito picked up the phone, heard Brady Tkachuk was available, and didn't know what was going on?

Playing hard ball wouldn't have tanked his value. Look at what Steve Yzerman is doing with Dylan Larkin. Theoretically, it may sound like it, but in the real world it doesn't affect their value much, if at all - teams will always pay if they have a chance to add a star-level talent, especially when you're in a situation like Florida's where their window is literally right now.
 
On a side note, who’s going to be competing against Florida in the next few years? Both Tkachuk’s, Bennett, Barkov, Reinhardt, Marchand, Ekblad, Forsling, Jones, Lundell etc. good time to rebuild as this team will own the playoffs the next 5 years and should be a dynasty with roster construction. I hope RJ is up to the challenge because that is a very impressive roster that’s built to dominate in the playoffs.

Crazy!

It's hockey, honestly. Crazy shit happens all the time. Look at the 2018-19 Lightning - they tied the NHL record for most wins, won the Presidents Trophy, and proceeded to get swept in the 1st round by the 8th seed Blue Jackets. The 2022-23 Bruins set the record for most wins and points in a season, won the Presidents Trophy, and yet they still lost in the 1st round to the 8th seeded Panthers.

The roster definitely looks very good on paper, but the league is very competitive. The Canes are going to be right back, and now they've got the experience of a team that's gone all the way. Colorado is still really good, they're going to bounce back - they got a very deep team with the stars to boot. Then you got a team like Edmonton, who still has 2 top 5 players in the league, the Golden Knights who just made the Cup Finals - point being, I don't think this move put them into a category of 'the road to the Stanley Cup runs through Florida', if that makes sense.
 
My problem with the wholesale trading of vets like Pettersson, Debrusk, etc… is you are selling when their market value is at a low point. It's like being in the stock market when there is significant downturn.. You are locking in your losses and not recognizing that the market will ultimately bounce back.

Not saying that it is definite that such players will improve their value but I don't think their value will get much worse. Plus the elements around them should improve their tradeability. As the cap rises their contracts become less onerous. Also their buyouts become less concerning. Thus, in a backhanded way, their value increases.

Moreover, the Canucks are not in a position where clearing cap space is much of a concern. It is not like we need to clear cap space to have the money to bring players that can help us to win now. Other teams, say Edmonton, who are truly in a win now mode and moving cap anchors is critical. For Vancouver, getting more cap space is not currently a huge issue.

Another problem is that, in many cases, team will be talking about retention. I think they only have one slot left open so they need to be judicious in using it. Moreover, I would like the team to move into the future with as little retention as possible. If players can't be moved without retention then maybe just don’t trade them. Furthermore, using retention now removes the possibility of bringing free agents, on high pay, short term contracts and then trading them, with retention, later in the season.

Might also say that perhaps the change in coaches will allow some players to improve their play.

If you consider the players, individually. I'd say the following

E. Pettersson - I think Pettersson has played long enough in the same way, and at the same level, to say he is what he is. Clearly he is not worth what they are paying him, but he can contribute defensively and on the power play. There is also the possibility that he badly affects the so-called "room". But, even give that, trading him now is questionable. He may not give you high quality play or production, but the team, as it is, is better with him than without him. Plus you may have to attach assets just to unload his contract. I'd say ride it out with Pettersson until the changes in the cap and the reduction of his buyout make it easier to move him out. In this way you may avoid giving up something in the process..

DeBrusk - I don't know if it has ever been solidly established he wants out. If he has, best to move him. But if he has not made that clear, then I think the team should look for a better window than this off season to trade him. He is a recognized scorer at the NHL level. Streaky, (and Lord knows AWOL in the rest of the games at times) but someone who, if a team has a scorer go down, is tradeable at the dead line. I think you have to wait till a team has a need for someone like DeBrusk to get maximum value. I know people get totally frustrated with DeBrusk but getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him is not helping much.

Boeser- I've probably been harder on Boeser than anyone on this board. However, I liked the way Boeser finished the season and the way he took on the role of leader late in the season. Watching him in interviews and watching his play on the ice, I saw a much more relaxed and mature Boeser. I think he gets paid too much (although time will mitigate some of that concern) and he is prone to pretty dead play when he tires. But, I think you can go too far in stripping things down. Moreover, if Boeser can continue the production he showed over the last third of the year, you've got something that will bring back very good value.

Hronek - some suggestion that he could be traded for a high draft choice this year. If so, you would have to consider it. However, IMO next year sounds like a better opportunity to pick up real difference makers in the draft. I'm not sure this is the best time to trade him. The other point is that given the youth on our defense, you'd probably be wise to give them some needed support.

M. Pettersson -Right now he is at the lowest point in his career. You need to give him a chance to increase his value. Anger and knee jerk reactions are not going to help this team.

Hoglander - don't think you can get anything for him. Doubtful you ever will. But you might as well keep him around rather than giving up assets just to move his salary out.

Demko - again makes little sense trading him now. Only way he is going to acquire reasonable value is if he proves he is free of injury. Another case, where a team may give up true value if they need better goaltending heading into the playoffs.

In the past, the team has continually made reactive trades and buy outs. Often these moves have only made the situation worse. I believe that if we are in a rebuild then we need, in most cases, to ride it out with unproductive players. Any rebuild is going to require patience. And the team should be trying to maximize the return for players by showing this kind of patience
I guess the issue for Canuck fans, is whether on a rebuilding team like the Canucks, players like DeBrusk, Hronek, Pettersson and Boeser will 'age out' before this team is ever competitive again.

If they're making a decision to build around a younger core like their young d-men and players like Cootes or Malhotra, then the older guys have to do. And with a weak UFA class this July 1st, their value may never be higher.

I know it's tough to sacrifice some of these veterans that fans know and like. And it does remove a valuable safety net for their younger players. But a rebuild is a rebuild. And if it's time, it's time.
 
My problem with the wholesale trading of vets like Pettersson, Debrusk, etc… is you are selling when their market value is at a low point. It's like being in the stock market when there is significant downturn.. You are locking in your losses and not recognizing that the market will ultimately bounce back.

Not saying that it is definite that such players will improve their value but I don't think their value will get much worse. Plus the elements around them should improve their tradeability. As the cap rises their contracts become less onerous. Also their buyouts become less concerning. Thus, in a backhanded way, their value increases.

Moreover, the Canucks are not in a position where clearing cap space is much of a concern. It is not like we need to clear cap space to have the money to bring players that can help us to win now. Other teams, say Edmonton, who are truly in a win now mode and moving cap anchors is critical. For Vancouver, getting more cap space is not currently a huge issue.

Another problem is that, in many cases, team will be talking about retention. I think they only have one slot left open so they need to be judicious in using it. Moreover, I would like the team to move into the future with as little retention as possible. If players can't be moved without retention then maybe just don’t trade them. Furthermore, using retention now removes the possibility of bringing free agents, on high pay, short term contracts and then trading them, with retention, later in the season.

Might also say that perhaps the change in coaches will allow some players to improve their play.

If you consider the players, individually. I'd say the following

E. Pettersson - I think Pettersson has played long enough in the same way, and at the same level, to say he is what he is. Clearly he is not worth what they are paying him, but he can contribute defensively and on the power play. There is also the possibility that he badly affects the so-called "room". But, even give that, trading him now is questionable. He may not give you high quality play or production, but the team, as it is, is better with him than without him. Plus you may have to attach assets just to unload his contract. I'd say ride it out with Pettersson until the changes in the cap and the reduction of his buyout make it easier to move him out. In this way you may avoid giving up something in the process..

DeBrusk - I don't know if it has ever been solidly established he wants out. If he has, best to move him. But if he has not made that clear, then I think the team should look for a better window than this off season to trade him. He is a recognized scorer at the NHL level. Streaky, (and Lord knows AWOL in the rest of the games at times) but someone who, if a team has a scorer go down, is tradeable at the dead line. I think you have to wait till a team has a need for someone like DeBrusk to get maximum value. I know people get totally frustrated with DeBrusk but getting rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him is not helping much.

Boeser- I've probably been harder on Boeser than anyone on this board. However, I liked the way Boeser finished the season and the way he took on the role of leader late in the season. Watching him in interviews and watching his play on the ice, I saw a much more relaxed and mature Boeser. I think he gets paid too much (although time will mitigate some of that concern) and he is prone to pretty dead play when he tires. But, I think you can go too far in stripping things down. Moreover, if Boeser can continue the production he showed over the last third of the year, you've got something that will bring back very good value.

Hronek - some suggestion that he could be traded for a high draft choice this year. If so, you would have to consider it. However, IMO next year sounds like a better opportunity to pick up real difference makers in the draft. I'm not sure this is the best time to trade him. The other point is that given the youth on our defense, you'd probably be wise to give them some needed support.

M. Pettersson -Right now he is at the lowest point in his career. You need to give him a chance to increase his value. Anger and knee jerk reactions are not going to help this team.

Hoglander - don't think you can get anything for him. Doubtful you ever will. But you might as well keep him around rather than giving up assets just to move his salary out.

Demko - again makes little sense trading him now. Only way he is going to acquire reasonable value is if he proves he is free of injury. Another case, where a team may give up true value if they need better goaltending heading into the playoffs.

In the past, the team has continually made reactive trades and buy outs. Often these moves have only made the situation worse. I believe that if we are in a rebuild then we need, in most cases, to ride it out with unproductive players. Any rebuild is going to require patience. And the team should be trying to maximize the return for players by showing this kind of patience

I agree with this for the most part. Trading EP40 at this junction continues to make no sense to me, apart from the emotional factor. really, most of the guys people want to get rid of don't make much sense to me. Even with Demko, the reason to trade him is what if he has a healthy season and goes back to being a top 5 goalie in the league and ruins the tank, not because you're sick of dealing with his injures while being paid so much, and it feels like the attitude around Demko is more to do with the second thing.

With that said, I disagree with the DeBrusk part. I think the market for him is probably as good as it's going to be. I'm not sure waiting to the deadline is going to net that much of an improvement over what we'd get now with the horrible UFA market.

Regarding whether he wants out, he's actually be more open that you would expect from a player. The quote was: DeBrusk: Canucks rebuild ‘not something I would be okay with or accepting’

“I think a rebuild is hard for every player, but at the same point it’s a great opportunity for younger guys,” DeBrusk said, per the Vancouver Province. “This game humbles everybody and it’s been a little bit more than humbling this year. Obviously, that [rebuild] is not something I would be okay with or accepting.

“My game doesn’t fit that.”

So that might not be an exact trade request, but clearly he doesn't want to be here for a rebuild.
 

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