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I think Podkolzin ends up in the third line and Suter is the other winger. I would love a 3c upgrade.
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Pretty underwhelming work done today IMO...Kiefer Sherwood was the only signing I feel good about. DeBrusk is a decent winger but if we're looking to find someone for Petey to generate some offensive chemistry with, I'm not sure he's the guy I'd be focusing on...and 7 years is a crazy commitment to make for a guy as consistently inconsistent as DeBrusk. Heinen is a reasonable middle 6 winger, depth is always welcome and I don't have a big issue with him, but its money being used that creates problems with you want to add someone with REAL talent...Forbort is meh, if hes a regular in the lineup I think its a problem. Overall its been a disappointing day so far.
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Not very good so far, looking like a repeat of 2016 is possible.
Zadorov? So he got 5 mil. The Canucks just spent 1.5 mil for a guy that couldn't play in the league regularly, so they step backwards on defence. Smaller and a lot less skill. 4.5 X 7 and the 5th best defence in the league stays intact and improved, now a big leap back, bottom 3 are smaller AHL guys now. Still need a top 4 dman just to tread water, LH or RH and Forbert isn't even the "absolutely must have RHD" to play with Hughes.
This Russian hate needs to stop.
In this day and age of supporting the club regardless of outcome this gets muffled as much as possible.
Essentially they will spend more being worse.
Everything is about Hughes being better in the easy season, how he is going to carry the team on his shoulders. He IS the TEAM, so what happens when he gets hurt?
Very worried this is a repeat of 8 years ago. Capped out and defence depth issues. 2016 over again?
So far 650 is all about how good it was they didn't over pay in FA, but hardly a peep about whether the team has improved or not? Yesterday players still listed on the team the team had the 5th best defence, today 22nd.
Zadorov? So he got 5 mil. The Canucks just spent 1.5 mil for a guy that couldn't play in the league regularly, so they step backwards on defence. Smaller and a lot less skill. 4.5 X 7 and the 5th best defence in the league stays intact and improved, now a big leap back, bottom 3 are smaller AHL guys now. Still need a top 4 dman just to tread water, LH or RH and Forbert isn't even the "absolutely must have RHD" to play with Hughes.
This Russian hate needs to stop.
In this day and age of supporting the club regardless of outcome this gets muffled as much as possible.
Essentially they will spend more being worse.
Everything is about Hughes being better in the easy season, how he is going to carry the team on his shoulders. He IS the TEAM, so what happens when he gets hurt?
Very worried this is a repeat of 8 years ago. Capped out and defence depth issues. 2016 over again?
So far 650 is all about how good it was they didn't over pay in FA, but hardly a peep about whether the team has improved or not? Yesterday players still listed on the team the team had the 5th best defence, today 22nd.
The forward lines have a lot of variability and configurations. Most of the wingers can play either side and throughout the line-up.
That defence…as someone who vastly prefers a strong defence, I’m not thrilled so far.
That defence…as someone who vastly prefers a strong defence, I’m not thrilled so far.
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The team is better today than they were at last season's opener, the only players we don't have are Ian Cole, Sam Lafferty, and Casey DeSmith.
BenningHurtsMySoul
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Feels like we would have had to stupidly overpay for anything major so instead we incrementally improved while focusing on depth over top-end and keeping flexibility (both with cap space and shorter deals on the bottom end) to wait for a chance to make a swing. I'm okay with that.
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We're going to see Heinen, Suter, Debrusk, even Sherwood play with that Miller line at times this season. I really wish Garland would work with Pete on that line, but we've already seen that with mixed results.
My issue is that up front, there's only Miller and Pete that are the line drivers, which is something I hoped we would have addressed. A guy that can do special things independent of Miller/Pete. Not sure if there's enough cap resources to go big fish hunting for a long term solution in that regard.
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on a day when ian cole got a raise, when chandler stephenson got paid more than marchessault and when sean monahan got 4x5m, we did ok.
i have come around to thinking debrusk is a targeted mikheyev replacement that they wanted for utility and coachability as well as scoring. still not happy with it but if i think of it as overpaying for a high end middle six player it is easier to stomach than the idea they thought of him as filling a true top 6 role.
i believe there is a rhd move coming. maybe they are waiting on carrier to make up his mind.
i have come around to thinking debrusk is a targeted mikheyev replacement that they wanted for utility and coachability as well as scoring. still not happy with it but if i think of it as overpaying for a high end middle six player it is easier to stomach than the idea they thought of him as filling a true top 6 role.
i believe there is a rhd move coming. maybe they are waiting on carrier to make up his mind.
Lots of options but they all come with some question marks.
Carrier and Hakanpaa probably have the best resumes, but Carrier might be signed already and Hak-tuah is more of a defensive defenceman, not a puck mover.
PO Joseph, Kylington, Boqvist are all available, but are either injury prone or not really top 4 guys projectables.
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Outside of Debrusk, everything is pointing towards a priority to flexibility which is the prudent thing to do in a plan B scenario. I'm not really sure what happened with Debrusk, I like the player but I don't love that contract.
Something non-obvious to mention is the emphasis on size as well. Forbort's obviously a bit of a tree, but the other guys play bigger than listed.
Something non-obvious to mention is the emphasis on size as well. Forbort's obviously a bit of a tree, but the other guys play bigger than listed.
I love Zadorov but there is absolutely no way you can justify paying your 3rd LD 5 mil a year.
Some of you guys gotta take off the rose coloured glasses. It was a good day for us - sensible signings and staying away from some of the bad contracts handed out.
Some of you guys gotta take off the rose coloured glasses. It was a good day for us - sensible signings and staying away from some of the bad contracts handed out.
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Heinen Miller Boeser
Debrusk Pettersson Podkolzin
Joshua Blueger Garland
Hoglander Suter Sutherland
Lekkerimaki hopefully is ready sooner rather than later. Need another defenseman
Debrusk Pettersson Podkolzin
Joshua Blueger Garland
Hoglander Suter Sutherland
Lekkerimaki hopefully is ready sooner rather than later. Need another defenseman
Its day 1 of free agency - the team still has plenty of time to sign or trade for someone. Cap space is king.
Agreed. DeBrusk is a calculated risk, I think. They are hoping he is the type of guy who can really click in the top 6 and bring other elements as well. He could very well outscore Lindholm, but Lindholm carries more value as a C.
I am hoping we look back on this contract as a steal in a few years, but it could go either way.
Considering the context that the Tier 1 market was gone in a matter of minutes, I feel like they did a good job adjusting to the circumstances and made some nice value signings to bolster the depth of the team.
At the end of the day some players just don't want to come to Canada/Vancouver and we have to accept that, you can't just assume that if we offered the same or a little more a player would come here for sure.
Was hoping for Arvidsson or Marchessault, the former going to rebuild his value in EDM and the latter signing a contract until he's 39, probably not something that would work out well for us.
A lot of absurd money and absurd term was thrown around today and we gave a 7 year deal to the youngest of anyone who signed that term.
One thing I like about the three new forwards is they all have been fantastic ES producers relative to their ice time and cost. None of them are butter soft, they are all 6' 200lbs and get at least 1 hit/gp (Sherwood a buzz saw). Good versatility in Heinen and Debrusk being able to play multiple forward positions. Those two also have good PK utility.
I've got no problem with Forbort at 1.5MM (400k above the bury line) and 1 year, considering much worse players in Lybushkin and Edmunson just got 3.25MM and 3.8MM respectively with term.
I think they need to focus on finding that D upgrade with the rest of the available money. Alex Carrier I see no official signing for, and also like Brannstrom/Kylington for a more puck moving upgrade to our bottom-4 which is a need for sure.
It's too bad we couldn't land one of the big boys but our depth is looking really solid and I do feel that Debrusk is a big upgrade as a linemate for EP compared to Mik/Laff/crud.
At the end of the day some players just don't want to come to Canada/Vancouver and we have to accept that, you can't just assume that if we offered the same or a little more a player would come here for sure.
Was hoping for Arvidsson or Marchessault, the former going to rebuild his value in EDM and the latter signing a contract until he's 39, probably not something that would work out well for us.
A lot of absurd money and absurd term was thrown around today and we gave a 7 year deal to the youngest of anyone who signed that term.
One thing I like about the three new forwards is they all have been fantastic ES producers relative to their ice time and cost. None of them are butter soft, they are all 6' 200lbs and get at least 1 hit/gp (Sherwood a buzz saw). Good versatility in Heinen and Debrusk being able to play multiple forward positions. Those two also have good PK utility.
I've got no problem with Forbort at 1.5MM (400k above the bury line) and 1 year, considering much worse players in Lybushkin and Edmunson just got 3.25MM and 3.8MM respectively with term.
I think they need to focus on finding that D upgrade with the rest of the available money. Alex Carrier I see no official signing for, and also like Brannstrom/Kylington for a more puck moving upgrade to our bottom-4 which is a need for sure.
It's too bad we couldn't land one of the big boys but our depth is looking really solid and I do feel that Debrusk is a big upgrade as a linemate for EP compared to Mik/Laff/crud.
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Not on paper though - last year they had Mikheyev who still looked like a similar player to DeBrusk and Kuzmenko who was looking like a top line player. That obviously didn’t work out as intended. There is a bit more depth this year though.
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