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Interesting points brought up on Canucks Talk: The lack of speed with Suter and Boeser may be a key reason they aren't re-signed. The counter-point is that a slower team like Winnipeg can make shorter plays to advance the puck.

Hoglander and Boeser playing with EP40 reminds of how WPG plays: short passes to each other.

Suter had a great year being the slowest player on the team. Intelligence and the ability to make plays.

To sum: Chasing speed is not the only answer. When you don't have it, you instead can mix slower and smarter players to compensate. The key is having enough good players regardless.
 
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Interesting points brought up on Canucks Talk: The lack of speed with Suter and Boeser may be a key reason they aren't re-signed. The counter-point is that a slower team like Winnipeg can make shorter plays to advance the puck.

Hoglander and Boeser playing with EP40 reminds of how WPG plays: short passes to each other.

Suter had a great year being the slowest player on the team. Intelligence and the ability to make plays.

To sum: Chasing speed is not the only answer. When you don't have it, you instead can mix slower and smarter players to compensate. The key is having enough good players regardless.
This is true and I think that's why coach says all the time push the play Push the pace you can be quick on your feet or you can be quick in those small passes as long as the puck moves forward
 
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Interesting points brought up on Canucks Talk: The lack of speed with Suter and Boeser may be a key reason they aren't re-signed. The counter-point is that a slower team like Winnipeg can make shorter plays to advance the puck.

Hoglander and Boeser playing with EP40 reminds of how WPG plays: short passes to each other.

Suter had a great year being the slowest player on the team. Intelligence and the ability to make plays.

To sum: Chasing speed is not the only answer. When you don't have it, you instead can mix slower and smarter players to compensate. The key is having enough good players regardless.
Winnipeg is a lot bigger and a lot more nasty. Canucks are small, soft and have average pace.
 
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Winnipeg is a lot bigger and a lot more nasty. Canucks are small, soft and have average pace.
Canucks have 6 more hits per game than Wpg.

What Van doesn't have is a big body that controls the puck like Scheifele and Vilardi. What Van doesn't have is speed in heaps like Connor and Ehlers that can also stick handle.

Van has very basic players that can shoot. It's a Jim Benning staple, scoring goals is hard so everybody needs to be able to shoot. It still shows within the drafting.

Canucks need to do an insane overhaul of their scouting staff. The top guys not the bottom ones.
 
Canucks have 6 more hits per game than Wpg.

What Van doesn't have is a big body that controls the puck like Scheifele and Vilardi. What Van doesn't have is speed in heaps like Connor and Ehlers that can also stick handle.

Van has very basic players that can shoot. It's a Jim Benning staple, scoring goals is hard so everybody needs to be able to shoot. It still shows within the drafting.

Canucks need to do an insane overhaul of their scouting staff. The top guys not the bottom ones.
We need a Kyle Connor.
 
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Canucks have 6 more hits per game than Wpg.

What Van doesn't have is a big body that controls the puck like Scheifele and Vilardi. What Van doesn't have is speed in heaps like Connor and Ehlers that can also stick handle.

Van has very basic players that can shoot. It's a Jim Benning staple, scoring goals is hard so everybody needs to be able to shoot. It still shows within the drafting.

Canucks need to do an insane overhaul of their scouting staff. The top guys not the bottom ones.
Who on the Canucks hits hard? Sherwood is a nice little player that hits often. He's Tyler Motte with better hands. It's a bit different getting run over by the Jets behemoths.
 
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Who on the Canucks hits hard? Sherwood is a nice little player that hits often. Ye's Tyler Motte with better hands. It's a bit different getting run over by the Jets behemoths.
I think you're probably not watching regular season and mostly just playoff hockey when everyone steps up.
 
That’s it for me looking on the mains for awhile. Those Devils fans are insufferable, there favourite player is Quinn, at least give some love to your own guys, how rude! They should just use there time better and watch the Devils get smoked in the 1st round instead
 
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I watch a fair bit of both but thank you for your input. 👍
Ok. Then we just have very different views then. I'm from Manitoba. I basically watch the Jets then turn the Canucks on when they start. Jets are more physical when protecting the puck but they aren't hitters.
 
Interesting points brought up on Canucks Talk: The lack of speed with Suter and Boeser may be a key reason they aren't re-signed. The counter-point is that a slower team like Winnipeg can make shorter plays to advance the puck.

Hoglander and Boeser playing with EP40 reminds of how WPG plays: short passes to each other.

Suter had a great year being the slowest player on the team. Intelligence and the ability to make plays.

To sum: Chasing speed is not the only answer. When you don't have it, you instead can mix slower and smarter players to compensate. The key is having enough good players regardless.
Boeser would already be re-signed if Hoglander EP Boeser was a quality line this past year.
 
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Boeser would already be re-signed if Hoglander EP Boeser was a quality line this past year.

I think as much as some may not want to hear it, and this includes for some reason our coach, we have what should be a good first line in Debrusk-Pettersson-Sherwood. When together they were really good even with Pettersson not playing... good at all. I never understood why we didn't go back to this line.
 
Tocchet likely gone, Hughes out the door soon, Willander going back to school, D-Petey traded for a center, staking the next season on a prima-donna Petey. First round pick gone again this year. Now it feels like the Canucks organization I've known and loved for over fifty years. It is good to be back.
 
Tocchet likely gone, Hughes out the door soon, Willander going back to school, D-Petey traded for a center, staking the next season on a prima-donna Petey. First round pick gone again this year. Now it feels like the Canucks organization I've known and loved for over fifty years. It is good to be back.
Do you catastrophize like this in every area of your life?

I can promise you it's not good for you.
 
We are part of the club now, we ain’t getting fined

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Tocchet likely gone, Hughes out the door soon, Willander going back to school, D-Petey traded for a center, staking the next season on a prima-donna Petey. First round pick gone again this year. Now it feels like the Canucks organization I've known and loved for over fifty years. It is good to be back.

Don't forget Rutherford's media availability comments. The unexpected cherry on top of a season from hell and foolery.

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These guys have pretty much played second-line roles for their teams that we might be going after with our 1st round pick + other assets to make it down.

  • Pavel Zacha (2 years left, proven number-two centerman with a couple of 50-plus-point seasons under his belt).
  • Barret Hayton (1 year left, but he’s an RFA).
  • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (5 years left. He’s been in a lot of trade rumors lately and just hasn’t found his groove offensively).
  • Evgeni Malkin (1 year left. He’s a longtime guy from A.V. Alvin’s crew back in the day, but he’s past his prime now).

    long shots

    Mathew Barzal. No management team is in, not sure which direction they are going.
    Mika Zibanejad 6 years left at 8.5 but declining.

    As for UFA's I think they might try to sign jamie Benn. and or Taylor Hall for short term help. I think rumours had it, that he might be interested in Vancouver as he was spotted in Vancouver during the summer (in the past) Others include Nik Ehlers if we don't sign Boeser, and or a Sam Bennet who might be a Tocchet type of player.
 
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Realistically its going to be three trades and we let Boeser and Suter walk while clinging to Ep40 hope.

Tom Willander for Ryan McLeod
Jon Lekkerimaki for Morgan Geekie
2025 1st for Fabian Zetterlund

Morgan Geekie --> 5.75 x4 to age 30
Ryan Mcleod --> 4.25 x5 to age 30
Fabian Zetterlund --> 3.25 x5 to age 30
Aatu Raty --> 950k x1
Derek Forbort --> 2.0 x1
Noah Juulsen --> 800k x1

There goes our capspace, prospects and 1st rounder.

Hoglander - Ep40 - Zetterlund
Debrusk - McLeod - Geekie
Joshua - Chytil - Garland
Oconnor - Blueger - Sherwood

Hughes - Hronek
M.Pettersson - Mancini
E.Pettersson - Myers

Demko, Lankinen

x raty, forbort, juulsen

We draft all RHDs 2-7 to reduce the sting.
Thanks, I hate it.
 
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These guys have pretty much played second-line roles for their teams that we might be going after with our 1st round pick + other assets to make it down.

  • Pavel Zacha (2 years left, proven number-two centerman with a couple of 50-plus-point seasons under his belt).
  • Barret Hayton (1 year left, but he’s an RFA).
  • Jesperi Kotkaniemi (5 years left. He’s been in a lot of trade rumors lately and just hasn’t found his groove offensively).
  • Evgeni Malkin (1 year left. He’s a longtime guy from A.V. Alvin’s crew back in the day, but he’s past his prime now).

    long shots

    Mathew Barzal. No management team is in, not sure which direction they are going.
    Mika Zibanejad 6 years left at 8.5 but declining.

    As for UFA's I think they might try to sign jamie Benn. and or Taylor Hall for short term help. I think rumours had it, that he might be interested in Vancouver as he was spotted in Vancouver during the summer (in the past) Others include Nik Ehlers if we don't sign Boeser, and or a Sam Bennet who might be a Tocchet type of player.
Why would Utah trade their 2C in Hayton, who just put up a career high year and is only 24 years old, and they don’t appear to have any other top 6 centres in the pipeline? Why would they do that…

Also don’t see Malkin leaving Pittsburgh or the east coast unless it’s as a rental at the TDL.
 
Why would Utah trade their 2C in Hayton, who just put up a career high year and is only 24 years old, and they don’t appear to have any other top 6 centres in the pipeline? Why would they do that…

Also don’t see Malkin leaving Pittsburgh or the east coast unless it’s as a rental at the TDL.

becuase maybe they got other up their pipeline that they rather sample with than Hayton? I'm just throwing some names out there, since JR said or mentioned they got something in the words, so we probably traded for someones 2nd line centerman unless we traded for a 3rd line centre which then its time we bring out our pitch forks.
 

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