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[Nucker101]

I know him to be a lower line guy. Sort of a grinder who is showing hints he can finish a bit.

But I haven't watched him enough to know more than that. Scouting report?

Obviously a big dude, speed is definitely not great but he still seems to get in on the forecheck pretty effectively. He just doesn't trow his weight around as much as Bruins fans would like so I'm guessing that's where some of frustration is from. I think he has some decent hands and even some playmaking vision for a big guy.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I get the feeling the Boeser situation is holding everything up.

 

[Nucker42]

Squeeze one more game out of him to make the playoffs!

Such a mistake, this team is so dumb

I mean it was Tuesday when he tweeted this, deadline is 3 days away how much closer does it need to get?

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I will say this tho, not to completely defend the ownership but, buffalo has been rebuilding for what it seems like forever, and still can't make the playoffs.

it's not a fullproof plan if you go full teardown rebuild

Just worth a note

Rebuilds require a ton of stupid luck and tanking year after year doesn't guarantee success.

That said, if Hughes is out for an extended period of time, you best at least make a concerted effort to sell off any assets this season and shut down any injured players.

If Quinn Hughes states his intent to leave in a year or two, then you probably have no other option that do a legitimate rebuild.

 

[strattonius]

Servalli
Dhaliwal
Dreger

Those guys have evidence that Aquilini is meddling in hockey ops?

 

[Nucker42]

Those guys have evidence that Aquilini is meddling in hockey ops?

I mean it’s mentioned by several insiders who clearly have sources inside the organization. It’s also been well documented historically that ownership has a daily hand.

I mean exhibit 1…. Fires everyone and then hires his own coach? Name another times that’s been done in recent history.

 

[Ernie]

So much rides on Hughes' health right now. The Canucks are a different team when he's playing and should have good odds of making the playoffs.

But if he's going to miss a lot more time or is going to be limited by his injuries, there is just no point in continuing to push. Sell Boeser, Suter, Soucy, and Forbort. See if you can find takers for Joshua and Hoglander. If you no longer feel confident in Demko, consider trading him as well.

The Canucks need more speed up front. It's odd that Rutherford didn't prioritize this as it's the formula that lead to his cup wins.

 

[strattonius]

I mean it’s mentioned by several insiders who clearly have sources inside the organization. It’s also been well documented historically that ownership has a daily hand.

I mean exhibit 1…. Fires everyone and then hires his own coach? Name another times that’s been done in recent history.

We aren't talking about Benning. This is Rutherford now who has also said he won't allow decisions to be made by ownership.

 

[Vector]

Those guys have evidence that Aquilini is meddling in hockey ops?

I don’t think fans have sort of understanding how internal dynamics work. In some cases, owners are extremely involved in hockey ops like Tom Dundon in Carolina. With the Canucks, Aquilini more sets mandates. If the Canucks make the playoffs then the budget* for next season can be set at a higher level, as an example.

Aquilini won’t be demanding that they don’t trade Brock but rather the mandate he set encourages the team not to sell since the benefit of more money is greater than some assets.

*I don’t mean salary cap but actual budgetary concerns. It’s no secret that the Canucks have bad facilities and are run skinflint. Aquilini has spent to the cap regularly but then wouldn’t spend the money elsewhere. This is why they are the only team in the league without a planned practice facility.

 

[bossram]

Such a mistake, this team is so dumb


I mean it was Tuesday when he tweeted this, deadline is 3 days away how much closer does it need to get?

Because if they win today, they're technically back in the playoffs baby! Time to buy! Get that playoff revenue!

 

[bossram]

I will say this tho, not to completely defend the ownership but, buffalo has been rebuilding for what it seems like forever, and still can't make the playoffs.

it's not a fullproof plan if you go full teardown rebuild

Just worth a note

They've also had dumb dumb GMs for most of this time though. Big Ville Leino deal! Extend Skinner for $9M!

They've also had fits and starts of "accelerating" the rebuild (like when they traded for ROR) that always ended up going badly.

So we have 65 points, if we want to make it to playoffs, we will need...what, 96 points? If not more. Which means 31 points out of the remaining 44. That's 0.700 point rate.

Only WSH WPG and DAL have been near that level of play.

I agree with the more general point here (the Canucks aren't good), but the playoff cut line will likely be lower this season.

 

[Ernie]

*I don’t mean salary cap but actual budgetary concerns. It’s no secret that the Canucks have bad facilities and are run skinflint. Aquilini has spent to the cap regularly but then wouldn’t spend the money elsewhere. This is why they are the only team in the league without a planned practice facility.

I give them a pass to a certain extent on the practice facility. Players seem to live on the west side or downtown. Building a dedicated practice facility that would be more convenient for the players than Rogers Arena would be extremely expensive in these areas and would struggle to get zoning approval etc. Most other teams have their practice facilities in the suburbs.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I expected more action after the 4 Nations.

This has been a death by a thousand cuts.

 

[timw33]

Per a discord I'm in: the Boeser banner on Rogers arena has been taken down.

 

[M2Beezy]

Per a discord I'm in: the Boeser banner on Rogers arena has been taken down.

Isnt the Miller one still up?

 

[Vector]

Per a discord I'm in: the Boeser banner on Rogers arena has been taken down.

Hey people that live in Vancouver, go look.

 

[RobsonStreet]

They've also had dumb dumb GMs for most of this time though. Big Ville Leino deal! Extend Skinner for $9M!

They've also had fits and starts of "accelerating" the rebuild (like when they traded for ROR) that always ended up going badly.


I agree with the more general point here (the Canucks aren't good), but the playoff cut line will likely be lower this season.

The flip side to bad teams trying to rebuild is to look at the good teams. Most of the teams that are doing well league wide didn’t get there through what fans think of as rebuilding. Winnipeg, Washington, Dallas, Florida, Vegas, Carolina, Minnesota have been making hockey trades and drafting well during periods where their teams had down years. Toronto, Tampa, Colorado, and Edmonton bottomed out years ago and got repeatedly lucky at the draft while they were bad, but it wasn’t stockpiling more picks and prospects that made the difference for them.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I expected more action after the 4 Nations.

This has been a death by a thousand cuts.

No one angrier than someone who got something they didn’t expect.

Hey people that live in Vancouver, go look.

I’m going to Anmore today f*** that lol

 

[supercanuck]

We need our scouts to pull off something like this era defining trade.

2. Geoff Courtnall, Robert Dirk, Sergio Momesso, Cliff Ronning, & 5th (#110, Brian Loney) for Garth Butcher & Dan Quinn – 1991 Trade Deadline

 

[Breakers]

Those guys have evidence that Aquilini is meddling in hockey ops?

Rutherford literally stated when he got this job he knew of Francesco’s “previous involvement” and wanted him to focus his energy on other areas of the operation

I mean Aquilini said he doesn’t believe in paying coaches top dollar.

Yet like 2 years ago he was paying 3 coaches at the same time

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I don’t think fans have sort of understanding how internal dynamics work. In some cases, owners are extremely involved in hockey ops like Tom Dundon in Carolina. With the Canucks, Aquilini more sets mandates. If the Canucks make the playoffs then the budget* for next season can be set at a higher level, as an example.

Aquilini won’t be demanding that they don’t trade Brock but rather the mandate he set encourages the team not to sell since the benefit of more money is greater than some assets.

*I don’t mean salary cap but actual budgetary concerns. It’s no secret that the Canucks have bad facilities and are run skinflint. Aquilini has spent to the cap regularly but then wouldn’t spend the money elsewhere. This is why they are the only team in the league without a planned practice facility.

It's a business and like any business in the 21st century....immediate returns trump long-term planning and vision. Picks and prospects that have a low chance of turning into an impact player is just not valuable in this market (especially to the owner) when we have the potential to host 2 playoff games.

 

[bossram]

The flip side to bad teams trying to rebuild is to look at the good teams. Most of the teams that are doing well league wide didn’t get there through what fans think of as rebuilding. Winnipeg, Washington, Dallas, Florida, Vegas, Carolina, Minnesota have been making hockey trades and drafting well during periods where their teams had down years. Toronto, Tampa, Colorado, and Edmonton bottomed out years ago and got repeatedly lucky at the draft while they were bad, but it wasn’t stockpiling more picks and prospects that made the difference for them.

The common denominator is that the good teams were able to execute high-surplus value transactions - AKA their GMs weren't dumb. This is perfectly consistent with what I said about BUF having dumb dumb GMs.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

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Per a discord I'm in: the Boeser banner on Rogers arena has been taken down.

Aqua can’t afford to keep it up.

The banner I mean.

 

[timw33]

Hey people that live in Vancouver, go look.

Cribbed from the Discord, I can't confirm that this is where the Boeser poster was but I think this person walks by regularly.

 

[HelloCookie]

Cribbed from the Discord, I can't confirm that this is where the Boeser poster was but I think this person walks by regularly.

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Hughes and number 3? WE'RE GETTING JACK AND LUKE TO THE CANUCKS BOYS!