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[Baby Pettersson]

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I'm just messing around with puckpedia, but some moves like this would allow them to get younger and faster up front and would allow the team to remain relatively competitive for the rest of this season without having to dip into the rental market to make win-now moves.

I think we win all those trades so probably not super realistic but I do like them.

 

[DonnyNucker]

At a certain point, actions speak louder than words.

Time to produce.

It's far too late to fix things. He will become even more intolerable once his NMC kicks in

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Just seeing EP40 as our top C in our lines makes me lose interest in the Canucks again.


DeBrusk has 21 goals with 22 games left. He is not an issue at all.

Look at the lines…. He’s listed at the top there, but that’s clearly the 3rd line.

 

[DonnyNucker]

My low key fantasy is a big boi trade with Buffalo for alot, ep + boeser and whatever for COZENS, Tuch and whatever we can get, Kulich, quinn, greenway, joki, jj, some swedish prospect, gimme everything.

XL Unlikely I know but I want action and dang would it be exciting

Tuch actually makes sense. His wife is from Van and it wouldn't be surprising if she wants to return home given the current political environment

 

[theguardianII]

Pettersson gives a word salad.

What a stupid interview to give. You think saying translates into doing? He is going to flip a switch and erase over 100 shitty games? If anything he just doubled down on a 3, if he fails after that interview then what? He gave himself a deadline and minimum performance.

If it was as easy as just saying your going to be better then they would never lose because all the players could then say that.

Next game should be a scheduled win, him getting points should be expected.
If this game turns out to be another OT game then it is a loss.

 

[arttk]

Pettersson gives a word salad.

No that’s what you do

 

[GranvilleIsland]

If that's the only thing you took from that, I feel bad for you son.

I got 99 problems and EP ain't one.

It was a joke.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Look at the lines…. He’s listed at the top there, but that’s clearly the 3rd line.

He should be on the 4th

 

[Nuckles]

Canucks aren’t in rental market this year. GM Patrik Allvin: “You’re always trying to make the team better. But I think we're in the position this year where. . . I don't envision any (rental) pickups like last year. We’re just going to continue to build and get better.”


But what about "self rentals" in Boeser and Suter?

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Canucks aren’t in rental market this year. GM Patrik Allvin: “You’re always trying to make the team better. But I think we're in the position this year where. . . I don't envision any (rental) pickups like last year. We’re just going to continue to build and get better.”


But what about "self rentals" in Boeser and Suter?

Self sabotage. Unless Brock plans on winning the Conn Smythe.

 

[archangel2]

So the oiler trade today extends the Cam Neely and a 1st (Glenn Wesley) trade. 40 years on the Bruins still have something to show for it. Crazy.

June 6th 1986(how many of us were not alive yet?) Vancouver trades Neely and a 1st to the Bruins for Barry Pederson. Bruins took Glenn Wesley and that is why this trade tree is alive,

Bruins trade Wesley on August 25th 1994 to the Whalers for 3 first rounders. Kyle McLaren, Johnathen Atkien, and Sergei Samsonov

Bruins trade Samsonov to the Oilers on March 9th 2006(20 years after the OG trade) for a 2nd round pick who turned out to be Milan Lucic

Bruins trade Lucic on June 26th 2015 to the kings for Martin Jones, Colin Miller, and a pick

Bruins flip Martin Jones on June 30th to the Sharks for a 1st in 2016 who turned into Trent Federic

Bruins trade Federic today to the Oilers +other uselss pieces for a 2nd, 4th and Shane Lachance(who is the son of former canuck Scott Lachance)

This trade tree could go on another decade

 

[wonton15]

Allvin better trade or at least sign Brock. I would give up on this team if they pull the self rental bullshit and he walks.

 

[JT Milker]

Allvin better trade or at least sign Brock. I would give up on this team if they pull the self rental bullshit and he walks.

Signing Boeser to a 6+ year $8M+ contract is a far worse outcome than letting him walk.

 

[Vector]

 

[sensodyne17]

Allvin better trade or at least sign Brock. I would give up on this team if they pull the self rental bullshit and he walks.

I've only seen a couple here say there OK with letting Brock walk away for nothing in an attempt to try to scrape by for a wildcard spot.

Letting Boeser walk for nothing would be organizational malpractice and a fireable offense.

Almost everyone is on board with this take but I've seen some guys here say it's OK to let him go for nothing. Absolute delusion.

In preferential order:

1) Trade Boeser (Top trade chip in a seller's market, should easily get a first+)
2) Sign Boeser to a team friendly contract (Something like $7.25M x 6 years)
3) Sign Boeser to a market value contract (Something like $8M x 6 years)
4) Let Boeser go for nothing (UFA is extremely dry this year, probably less than 10 legit top six forwards)

Signing Boeser to a 6+ year $8M+ contract is a far worse outcome than letting him walk.

This is pretty debatable considering how weak the UFA market is this year alongside cap going up for everyone.

We won't realistically be able to upgrade on Boeser at 8M in UFA. We could pay overpay a winger like $5/6M (Zucker for example) to bring 80% of what Boeser brings but that doesn't do anything value wise.

If the window is to compete now, Boeser here at 8M is certainly better than 8M of open cap space.

 

[wonton15]

Signing Boeser to a 6+ year $8M+ contract is a far worse outcome than letting him walk.

Hard disagree. They don’t even have to sign him. Absolute negligence if they let him walk when there is an opportunity to gather assets and at the minimum reflip those assets for another forward like they’ve done before. But something about this unravelling feels off..

 

[ProviesGhost]

We won't be getting Kulich on top of that but Cozens and Tuch for EP40 is a real possibility that could make sense for both teams.

Cozens and Tuch fits the Tocchet mold way better as heavy guys. If the window is now, Tuch's salary at ~$4.5M next year would be great for the team. I would probably try to get Jack Quinn too, maybe a Hoglander swap.

I think it's time to leave Rick Tocchet out of player acquisition discussions. Pretty sure we would've avoided Deharnais if his "preferences" weren't considered.

 

[Nucker101]

I think it's time to leave Rick Tocchet out of player acquisition discussions. Pretty sure we would've avoided Deharnais if his "preferences" weren't considered.

Look at Trotz in Nashville, coaches probably aren’t ideal GM’s

 

[sensodyne17]

I think it's time to leave Rick Tocchet out of player acquisition discussions. Pretty sure we would've avoided Deharnais if his "preferences" weren't considered.

And I'm sure Tocchet had no say in the successes like Forbort, Sherwood, Hronek, Lankinen, Suter, Bleuger, Joshua, Zadorov, Lindholm etc.

 

[wonton15]

This is a bit scary to me. With the way JR/Allvin have used the media, I really hope this is not priming us for a Boeser self rental.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

If Debrusk is a believer then so am I.

 

[andora]

I've been starting to wonder about Tampa being a landing spot for Boeser. They have the cap space now and for an extension.

Geekie as the main piece coming back.

I dont think you would get a plus

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I’m guessing from Boston, we’d be looking at Zacha or Geekie. Both fit the definition of not a rental.

For Nashville, maybe O’Reilly? Hard to see much of need on the roster outside of their older scoring forwards.

 

[Nuckles]

At this point, if there’s a Canuck who is likely to be dealt, put Suter at the top of your list. Based on conversations with a variety of sources, it’s likely he is getting moved, echoing what CHEK-TV’s Rick Dhaliwal suggested on Tuesday morning, that the Swiss forward does not seem set to sign a new contract and the Canucks are likely to move him.

Of course they would need to bring in a new centre, so if he is moved, it would not be surprising to see a bigger name coming in a concurrent deal. The Canucks were reportedly close to a couple of deals on the weekend, sources say, but the scale of those potential deals is not know.

 

[racerjoe]

What if you're also the cause of said shitty environment?

Then just look at JT Miller...