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If chytil could stay healthy I'm all for this. I don't think he'll be able to stay healthy though.
Totally agree. I’m okay to move off Blueger but don’t know how much that moves the needle.

What about moving Garland for a strong 3C who could be an upgrade over Blueger and replace Chytil when required.
 
i wonder if blueger could be cap casualty this summer. if raty sassons or whoever takes his spot for 1/2 price and they find a righty hand centerman.

third line: sherwood/raty/joshua.
4th line:???/aman/sassons.
I would be very surprised if they moved him. True C, probably their best PK forward (top 2 for sure). Neither Raty nor Sasson likely to carry the PK water, so unless they find an all situations #2, saving $900k by moving a very reliable bottom 6 C would be foolish IMO. he's also an asset they could move at the deadline next year if the season goes pete tong.
 
i wonder if blueger could be cap casualty this summer. if raty sassons or whoever takes his spot for 1/2 price and they find a righty hand centerman.

third line: sherwood/raty/joshua.
4th line:???/aman/sassons.

While upgrades are always possible, Blueger doesn’t free up a ton of cap space. He’s signed to a very reasonable hit that isn’t terribly much more than league minimum.
 
So we need forwards next year. What's in the mix. Karlsson, Lekk, Mueller, Sassons, Raty, Alrikson, Klimovich, Bains, Aman PDG, and Kravtsov. Can we get 4 - 5 out of those before the next season ends.

I know I am missing a few, but if we could get four legit player from that bunch we will be a pretty good team,
Karlsson, Raty, and Sasson should all be in the line up next year. They should look at moving Blueger and seek to fill that 4C spot with one of the C’s.

To me its a top 9. They have 4 locks for the top 9, depending on off season moves. Peter, Jake, Sherwood, Garland. Then you have Joshua and Hoggy who are likely. Lekkeremaki will do well to crack that group. Raty as well.

I see the rest as 4th line fodder meaning we need a couple good forwards, one being a centre.
I wonder if they entertain moving Garland if they think Hoglander and or Sherwood can replace some or all of his production. He is a positive asset with 1 year remaining now and consecutive seasons averaging 50~ points.

I love Garland and it’ll hurt if he’s ever traded but imo I can see several reasons to move him.

1. For team comp sake. Plethora of undersized middle 6 guys on the team with similar skill sets.

2. Redistribute cap towards acquiring a legitimate top 6 forward.

3. If they feel they won’t be able re sign him to a reasonable deal for a player turning 30 and looking to cash in on his final major contract.
 
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I wonder if they entertain moving Garland if they think Hoglander and or Sherwood can replace some or all of his production. He is a positive asset with 1 year remaining now and consecutive seasons averaging 50~ points.
Garland is Hughes' closest fried on the team. People have suggested, despite the warts, bringing in Norris/Zegras (potentially at a significant cost) as they're Quinn's friends and may fill a hole in the top 6. Obviously the return would be a relevant part of the equation, but making another hole in the top 6, while trading away his friend would be unwise IMO.
 
Agreed, I’m probably higher on Raty than most but I see him as a 20-30-50, all situations centre in the next 2-3 years. I see him starting as our 4C and becoming a dependable 3C as the season wears on.
50 points and he's the 3C? That's championship caliber, we should be so lucky! :laugh:
 
I would be very surprised if they moved him. True C, probably their best PK forward (top 2 for sure). Neither Raty nor Sasson likely to carry the PK water, so unless they find an all situations #2, saving $900k by moving a very reliable bottom 6 C would be foolish IMO. he's also an asset they could move at the deadline next year if the season goes pete tong.
Both Blueger and Suter are our top PK forwards, if we lose Suter to UFA and trade Blueger, our PK will take a huge hit. I can understand walking away from Suter if he gets crazy money in UFA, but Blueger is under contract for a reasonable price, I don't think its worth the minimal saving to move off him and potentially sink our PK back to the low 70% again.
 
Karlsson, Raty, and Sasson should all be in the line up next year. They should look at moving Blueger and seek to fill that 4C spot with one of the C’s.
This is akin to people wanting to gift Silovs the #2 goalie position after last season. These are not proven NHLers. Raty will probably be pencilled in for a spot on the roster; the other two have to earn it.
 
Why is there such an issue with Willander's bonuses? If he hits it that means he play above expectation, the team should be happy to pay it. If not (the more likely scenario), the money is not paid, so nothing lost there.

I'm not sure why the team is so hung up on this?
Speaking to a former agent, they seem to think this management group is ridiculously inconsistent in negotiations. It must be incredibly frustrating to do any sort of negotiations with them as they either play hardball and reach an impasse or quickly proceed through a process with zero f***s.
 
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Why is there such an issue with Willander's bonuses? If he hits it that means he play above expectation, the team should be happy to pay it. If not (the more likely scenario), the money is not paid, so nothing lost there.

I'm not sure why the team is so hung up on this?
I thought big cap implications? Big meaning with the OEL buyout hit, the team will have very little room to maneuver given the holes that need to be filled up front

well that, and they are dicks*

* eff yeah!
 
Why is there such an issue with Willander's bonuses? If he hits it that means he play above expectation, the team should be happy to pay it. If not (the more likely scenario), the money is not paid, so nothing lost there.

I'm not sure why the team is so hung up on this?
He’s also not going to be a big point getting like Hughes. So his bonuses are more ice time and plus/minus and stuff like that, which are the ones he could hit. But like you said, that is if he earns it and barring injury, Canucks would expect Hronek and Myers to play more and they have Quinn and Marcus on the left to make their top 4 in ice time.

OEL, they have to manage. I mean Minny is in the PO with dead cap $10 mill higher than what OEL will be next season.

Who knows. I don’t think TW will start in the nhl next season. Should start in Abby and develop his offensive game a bit. If he starts on Van he’d just focus on defense to ensure he doesn’t make mistakes. But he has a skillset that can enable him to put up points.

Also a timing time. BZ of the Wild signed but Denver lost in the semis 2 days earlier. TW lost in the finals on Sat. Tuesday is the drop dead date to get him signed and here for the final game on Wed vs LV.
 
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I thought big cap implications? Big meaning with the OEL buyout hit, the team will have very little room to maneuver given the holes that need to be filled up front

well that, and they are dicks*

* eff yeah!
My understanding, and I can be wrong here, is that the team needs to either 1) save some cap space for the upcoming 2025-26 season for the bonus in case the player hits it, or 2) let it slide to the season after if the team doesn't have the cap space at end of the season once it is determined whether the criteria is met.

I get that they are projecting to spend to the cap this coming season, but with the cap rising so much and with Poolman and Mikehyev coming off the book in the next 2 seasons, it shouldn't be that much of a concern to management, should it? Especially since the odds of Willander hitting it is remote to begin with?
 
He’s also not going to be a big point getting like Hughes. So his bonuses are more ice time and plus/minus and stuff like that, which are the ones he could hit. But like you said, that is if he earns it and barring injury, Canucks would expect Hronek and Myers to play more and they have Quinn and Marcus on the left to make their top 4 in ice time.

OEL, they have to manage. I mean Minny is in the PO with dead cap $10 mill higher than what OEL will be next season.

Who knows. I don’t think TW will start in the nhl next season. Should start in Abby and develop his offensive game a bit. If he starts on Van he’d just focus on defense to ensure he doesn’t make mistakes. But he has a skillset that can enable him to put up points.

Also a timing time. BZ of the Wild signed but Denver lost in the semis 2 days earlier. TW lost in the finals on Sat. Tuesday is the drop dead date to get him signed and here for the final game on Wed vs LV.

Wait, Minny's dead cap, is it from the Parise and Suter buyouts?
 
Dhaliwal the lobbyist is at it again. I wonder how much cap space he has cost the team over the years?
 
Issue may be that the team needs to account for the bonus in the final year of the cba. CBA is due to expire in Sept 2026. Thus need to get a new one hammered out in the off season. But I think that is the expectation.
 
My understanding, and I can be wrong here, is that the team needs to either 1) save some cap space for the upcoming 2025-26 season for the bonus in case the player hits it, or 2) let it slide to the season after if the team doesn't have the cap space at end of the season once it is determined whether the criteria is met.

I get that they are projecting to spend to the cap this coming season, but with the cap rising so much and with Poolman and Mikehyev coming off the book in the next 2 seasons, it shouldn't be that much of a concern to management, should it? Especially since the odds of Willander hitting it is remote to begin with?
It’s also a bit more annoying to deal with LTIR in terms of establishing your bonus pool. But that would be a weird reason to make this a hill to die on with your top prospect, especially if he is willing to not burn a year of his ELC.
 
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Rick is carrying a lot of water for agents and really isn't hiding it.
I mean his statement is not wrong.

Previously it was basically a lock that Willander would come straight into the team to some capacity given how poor the defense was.

Now there's the very likely scenario that mgmt wants him to start in the AHL given the depth they have.

I would not be surprised if he announces going back for another year if neither side budgets on their demands.
 
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