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Makes perfect sense to me. Quinn Hughes doesn't give a shit about who the Canucks could draft 15th overall in a weak draft.
Agreed, and I think many posters are off on their perception of the situation. My bet is that Alvin & Rutherford are going to try to resign Suter, Boeser, and Forbert. Then look to free agency and a big trade including significant forward assets/prospect (I don't think much is off the table other than EP40, DeBrusk, Gar, most of our current D). The goal being the addition of a 2C AND legit top 6 F. Include some grit / size with at least one of those additions.

We can't get softer and expect to compete in the playoffs. We also now have much more proof that a few younger players can step into full time roles. It will take creativity on management's part, but the potential to have one of our strongest line-ups ever next year exists.
 
The problem is you have to give to take. McTavish is a legit second line center at only 22, with potentially to be even better. If he's available and Anaheim wants Willander, we'd be crazy not to make that trade. While it may hurt us trying to find someone to eventually replace Myers, it's going to hurt us a lot sooner if we have a giant hole at center.

It all boils down to either cross our fingers and hope Chytil isn't knocked out by a stiff breeze or accept losing Willander. I'd much prefer trading Lekkerimaki, but I don't think he'll command the same return.
I wonder what teams have centers and has absolutely trash defensive depth. Those seems like those are the teams we are talking to.

Unless Raty + 1st can get us a center back lol
 
This talk of Willander AND a first is completely insane to me. Just go after someone older why the fuk do we need a young guy here? Schenn or Horvat even if we had to really overpay would not cost anything near that. (our first, Garland/Hoglander or both even and Mynio etc.)

I really hope this Willander on the table talk is just that..........talk. Can't see that being a great idea unless we are getting someone like McTavish back.

Even then between the two DPetey and Willander it would make much more sense imo to trade DPetey as our left side is set for the next 5years +. Our right side is NOT - U can't pencil in Mancini into a top 4 role no way. I just don't see this happening.......
 
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This talk of Willander AND a first is completely insane to me. Just go after someone older why the fuk do we need a young guy here? Schenn or Horvat even if we had to really overpay would not cost anything near that. (our first, Garland/Hoglander or both even and Mynio etc.)

I really hope this Willander on the table talk is just that..........talk. Can't see that being a great idea unless we are getting someone like McTavish back.

Even then between the two DPetey and Willander it would make much more sense imo to trade DPetey as our left side is set for the next 5years +. Our right side is NOT - U can't pencil in Mancini into a top 4 role no way. I just don't see this happening.......
I’d still be shocked if mgmt dealt Willander.

They will likely try to trade Kud or Mynio first.

But if they really want to go big and swing for the fences, then depending on who they could get in return, Willander is likely at least a consideration now.

Before he was not.
 
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Willander does have a lot of value, but posters need to understand that we are targeting a similar piece but at centre, but one that is also in their early to mid twenties and has progressed well (i.e., the asset is far more de-risked than Willander). So you just aren't going to get the kind of player back for Willander that some on here expect, or you are going to have to add.
2nd line centers are worth more than potential top pair right shot D?
 
I’d still be shocked if mgmt dealt Willander.

They will likely try to trade Kud or Mynio first.

But if they really want to go big and swing for the fences, then depending on who they could get in return, Willander is likely at least a consideration now.

Before he was not.
You would be shocked if Canucks management did something stupid?
 
I still haven’t seen or heard anything that Dhaliwal actually said what is being claimed. As it stands, here’s no credible truth to the Canucks shopping their first and trading top prospects for a centre.

Logically, that’s obviously what they are going to do. There’s no report supporting it, though.
 
I’d still be shocked if mgmt dealt Willander.

They will likely try to trade Kud or Mynio first.

But if they really want to go big and swing for the fences, then depending on who they could get in return, Willander is likely at least a consideration now.

Before he was not.

Yeah he's at least in the conversation now to be traded I agree however I would move heaven and earth BEFORE trading him...........he anchors our right side on a reasonable salary (as he's not an offense first guy) for the next decade plus..........Find another way to improve the team please.
 
McTavish is absolutely worth more than Willander currently. He’s 22 and currently a second line centre, with first line upside. Way more risk with Willander.
I ask you then would you rather have Brock Faber and a mid first or Kevin Fiala? Fiala had 85 points in 82 games.
 
I ask you then would you rather have Brock Faber and a mid first or Kevin Fiala? Fiala had 85 points in 82 games.
Fiala was a winger and 25 when he was traded. Not comparable at all to McTavish. Plus, Faber was an excellent prospect that hit on his potential.
 
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Fiala was a winger and 25 when he was traded. It comparable at all to McTavish. Plus, Faber was an excellent prospect that hit on his potential.
So you like McTavish and aren't high on Willander. That's all you needed to say.
 
So you like McTavish and aren't high on Willander. That's all you needed to say.
No, that’s not what I am saying at all. I said the opposite actually about Willander. You just aren’t understanding that young players currently performing well in the NHL like McTavish are much more valuable than prospects who haven’t played a game in the NHL.
 
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I ask you then would you rather have Brock Faber and a mid first or Kevin Fiala? Fiala had 85 points in 82 games.
Depends who ask because at same age willander is no brock faber in my opinion

There are also people that believe still it was a stupid trade me included. Kings weathered it so far because of depth and clarke coming along

So you like McTavish and aren't high on Willander. That's all you needed to say.
Well mctavish is 22 and in the nhl so there is that but this is a lazy retort.
 
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No, that’s not what I am saying at all. I said the opposite actually about Willander. You just aren’t understanding that young players currently performing well in the NHL like McTavish are much more valuable than prospects who haven’t played a game in the NHL.
Currently. Just like the LA and Minny trade most are giving the win to Minny a couple years later.
 
Currently. Just like the LA and Minny trade most are giving the win to Minny a couple years later.
Why do you keep on referencing a trade that isn’t comparable? And Faber hit in on his potential. That doesn’t retroactively change his value.
 
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