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[Hughes Clues]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

 

[theguardianII]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

My new plan;

Canuck 1rst rnd pick and EP40 for whomever has the #1 pick this year, even add in 15% retention (ouch) and a bit more.

Sign Suter but not a huge deal, easily 4 X 5.
Let Boeser go. Save the cap space
Promote Lekkerimaki
Raty's is having a good audition late in the season
EPD reminds me a lot of Edler when he first came up.
Due to EPD make Willander a trade asset, a lot of value before he gets into pro levels.
Allvin has to decide the Garland contract, in his last year next season.
Sign Forbort
Decide on Demko or do a deal.

The bottom of the line up is okay and the defence.

Reality is next year is just to look "competitive"

 

[ManVanFan]

After 1 epic come back after 10 below average games and 68 games mediocre games, they know need to roll back the same team next year and expect different results.

 

[ManVanFan]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

Hoglander Petey Marner
Debrusk Suter Garland
Joshua Raty Sherwood
Gallagher Blueger Karlsson
Lekkerimaki

Chytil to Mtl for Gallagher and a 2nd
O'Connor to Chicago for a 4th


It's gonna have to be by committee type of team. Also expect Suter to return to his below half a PPG and 15 goals for twice the price. Lol.

 

[theguardianII]

After 1 epic come back after 10 below average games and 68 games mediocre games, they know need to roll back the same team next year and expect different results.

Ya, that will be the narrative for sure, just like the other 35 times the fans have been told that after another bad season.

A whole lot of do nothing in the summer.
But to be fair they HAVE to restrain themselves and plan for the future not just next year.

The "window" is closed, they had it for 2 years, now they need to build for a new window and plan ahead more than just next year or "ANYTHING" to keep Hughes who is likely to move on anyway once he has a choice for the first time in his career. So make it something monumentally beneficial for the TEAM, don't just sign players for the next 3 or 4 years, get one's for the next decade.

Tell fans a plan and let them cheer the plan as it comes to fruition right in front of their eyes.

 

[ManVanFan]

Ya, that will be the narrative for sure, just like the other 35 times the fans have been told that after another bad season.

A whole lot of do nothing in the summer.
But to be fair they HAVE to restrain themselves and plan for the future not just next year.

The "window" is closed, they had it for 2 years, now they need to build for a new window and plan ahead more than just next year or "ANYTHING" to keep Hughes who is likely to move on anyway once he has a choice for the first time in his career. So make it something monumentally beneficial for the TEAM, don't just sign players for the next 3 or 4 years, get one's for the next decade.

Tell fans a plan and let them cheer the plan as it comes to fruition right in front of their eyes.

I thought they should have done that last year as well, then they went for it. I don't blame them, it made sense. Great if they won, hindsight when they didn't.

I believe that Hughes stays as long as they are not tanking. Bringing back the same team a bit healthier probably yeilds same results being a bubble team. Just as long as they don't have to kill Hughes to get there like they are doing now. Foote and Tocchet just seem to lack the ideas that allow anyone else to play except for Hughes.

 

[ManVanFan]

 

[tanti9]

I wonder if the Canucks revisit in trying to acquire Norris. He is currently hurt (again) but maybe Buffalo is willing to move him.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I wonder if the Canucks revisit in trying to acquire Norris. He is currently hurt (again) but maybe Buffalo is willing to move him.

I can’t imagine they do until they figure out Chytil.

Can’t have two injured Cs out LT.

If anything, they need to go after other Buffalo forwards.

 

[JT Milker]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

This is a reasonable plan and you hope better injury luck or internal performances combined with a full year of a top d corp puts them back in the top 10 in the league.

If you can’t get Ehlers (or somehow Marner), you’ll have to trade Lek/DP/Willander (in order of preference) in a package to acquire an equivalent impact player. And I don’t consider re-signing Boeser equivalent, not an impact player/play driver.

 

[sting101]

Norris is a good player when healthy but they would be banking on a player with a bummed shoulder who makes big money and scores at less than 30pts per82 at 5v5 to stay healthy for it to even be close to working out.

2 other draw backs are the Sabres actually consider him a good asset or they wouldn't have added a 2nd to the Cozens trade (which is laughable by the way....shades of Jimbo) and the other is he scores a bunch from the EP40 spot on the PP which wont be happening here.

I'm not interested in paying assets to take on what could very quickly be a cap dump if he doesn't show that he can stay healthy and produce more. What an awful trade for Buffalo to move out the younger better healthier Cozens for a player with issues. I get Cozens was struggling but what a dysfunctional franchise.

I would keep calling on their players

Krebs Peterka Kulich Tuch Ostlund would love to get any of them.

 

[theguardianII]

I thought they should have done that last year as well, then they went for it. I don't blame them, it made sense. Great if they won, hindsight when they didn't.

I believe that Hughes stays as long as they are not tanking. Bringing back the same team a bit healthier probably yeilds same results being a bubble team. Just as long as they don't have to kill Hughes to get there like they are doing now. Foote and Tocchet just seem to lack the ideas that allow anyone else to play except for Hughes.

Last year they got very lucky right out of the gate.
Pettersson's line was outscoring Miller's line and both had insane shooting percentages

Getting Zadorov was a steal of monumental proportions, he FIT really well with that group. Some players are better with some, ya Captain Obvious but true. Kuz playing with PE40 and a recovering Mik were lights out, great defensively and on offensive.
Big Z was a great fit immediately, playing with Myers they went 9 games without a even strength goal against right away.
It really looked like they may have the nucleus of a contender for another year or two. But then Allvin and the other 3 GMs got to work, poof.

I really don't think there is anything they can do to keep Hughes, even if the team doesn't tank they aren't going to be cup contenders, not when Hughes will be able to sign with all cup contending teams at the maximum allowed. All teams will be able to afford him and will make room if it is even close.

You hope it is the coaches playing the crap out of him and not him demanding the ice time so he can pad his own stats. I post that because of the media putting it out there when Mancini got benched for not passing him the puck when he was beaver slapping his stick and the very obvious shaking of his head sauntering to the bench.

If it is the team then it is for a feel good story. Pretty sure if this was the real season that would not happen, he got shut down last year and was hit 4 or 5 times as often each game.

Yes probably a bubble team next year, maybe not even that. Other teams will be better. Others around them have a ton of youth, prospects and trade assets and all with more cap space available to them, the Canucks have already spent 5.5 million for OEL and Mik to play against them on other teams so with a 7.5 mil cap increase the Canucks get a 2 mil increase. T

 

[theguardianII]

Norris is a good player when healthy but they would be banking on a player with a bummed shoulder who makes big money and scores at less than 30pts per82 at 5v5 to stay healthy for it to even be close to working out.

2 other draw backs are the Sabres actually consider him a good asset or they wouldn't have added a 2nd to the Cozens trade (which is laughable by the way....shades of Jimbo) and the other is he scores a bunch from the EP40 spot on the PP which wont be happening here.

I'm not interested in paying assets to take on what could very quickly be a cap dump if he doesn't show that he can stay healthy and produce more. What an awful trade for Buffalo to move out the younger better healthier Cozens for a player with issues. I get Cozens was struggling but what a dysfunctional franchise.

I would keep calling on their players

Krebs Peterka Kulich Tuch Ostlund would love to get any of them.

What I would like to see is a trade that includes EP40 for their first overall. Even if the Nux had to retain 15%, add in Willander and maybe O'Connor or an exchange of picks.
IMO if they can get a healthy Misa he will put up more points than EP40 and the defensive side could be adding a specialist on his wing or having him with a solid defence pairing. 5 man group.

There is a very good chance EP40 can rebound but not here, not anymore. The owned marketing media can shower him with praise for getting two points for every 60 minutes of ice time but it would only take 3 bad games and he is in the market's doghouse thanks to Allvin forcing the early signing to that big contract.

The 15% retention is still a savings of 9.9 mil a season where Misa get the same or more points, or Suter or Blueger or ???? You can get a lot of older vets as roster fillers while the next two years go by that will be as good as what EP40 has been the last 18 months.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Norris is a good player when healthy but they would be banking on a player with a bummed shoulder who makes big money and scores at less than 30pts per82 at 5v5 to stay healthy for it to even be close to working out.

2 other draw backs are the Sabres actually consider him a good asset or they wouldn't have added a 2nd to the Cozens trade (which is laughable by the way....shades of Jimbo) and the other is he scores a bunch from the EP40 spot on the PP which wont be happening here.

I'm not interested in paying assets to take on what could very quickly be a cap dump if he doesn't show that he can stay healthy and produce more. What an awful trade for Buffalo to move out the younger better healthier Cozens for a player with issues. I get Cozens was struggling but what a dysfunctional franchise.

I would keep calling on their players

Krebs Peterka Kulich Tuch Ostlund would love to get any of them.

Kulich is the one target for me.

I think he would thrive.

If there is a deal to be made, it's going to cost alot.

 

[sting101]

After 1 epic come back after 10 below average games and 68 games mediocre games, they know need to roll back the same team next year and expect different results.

i know this is sarcasm and there is validity to what some might think is insanity by doing just that but there is also some room for looking at what went wrong this year and thinking you could have more luck and better results next season.

The defence - Going from Soucy to M.Pettersson and then Desharnais Juulsen Brannstrom to D.Petey Mancini Willander is a huge upgrade. So much so healthy this is a contender level D

JT Miller - Obviously nothing is gonna jump out and replace the on ice impact. This will be an ongoing issue. Raty has taken a big step and they will be shopping if Suter is not signed and would expect a good player. Chytil is a unknown but is a good player when healthy but the largest positive will be harmony.

Thatcher Demko - I mean who knows. Could be dealt for all we know. Unless something changes we should have upper echelon goaltending.

Elias Pettersson - It can't continue can it. Certainly saw stretches of quality play but this is the biggest thing most of us should expect to change. 45pts for 11.6m is dreadful. Too good a player to not take a big step you would think although him leaving NY injured has me suspicious this could be a theme going forward. Either way it will dictate change. For now we have to figure based off past precedent we will have a PPG player back at least

Boeser Joshua and Hoglander - Who knows with Brock but they would be stupid to not just hit the easy one and lock down a 25-35 goal scorer who is clutch good in battles net front and a good playmaker and PP player. Joshua Hoglander earning their pay would be a substantial uptick from this year and the stretch run especially for Hoglander has some optimism. Have to be honest though about it because Suter and Sherwood had career years so some up and down should balance things and would be ignorant to think this will provide a uptick collectively. Key would be getting Brock back motivated

Lekkerimaki Raty Willander DPetey Mancini are starting to get closer to providing support

Its not like were just gonna roll over and become a contender and as per usual players will get hurt but so many core pieces were injured or disgruntled and the D looks fantastic. You would expect better results if you brought the same group back mostly

 

[sting101]

Kulich is the one target for me.

I think he would thrive.

If there is a deal to be made, it's going to cost alot.

Don't have to convince me that's who i wanted at the draft. It's absurd teams let him fall that far.

Like i said i would be phoning Buffalo daily to pull a C out of there

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

I love Hog but I can't help but think he should go and use the saving to sign Suter. Plus Raty, Lek, Sasson and Karlsson are ready to stay with the team imo.

DeBrusk - Pettersson - Lekkerimaki
Suter - Ehlers - Sherwood
Joshua - Raty - Garland
O'Connor - Blueger - Karlsson/Sasson

Hughes - Hronek
M. Pettersson - Myers
E. Pettersson - Forbort/Willander

Demko
Lankinen

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

I'd love this.

 

[Jerry the great]

Don't have to convince me that's who i wanted at the draft. It's absurd teams let him fall that far.

Like i said i would be phoning Buffalo daily to pull a C out of there

The only one you might realistically be able to get is Krebs, and i don't think he's much better than Raty currently and has less upside.

Kulich is in year 1 of his ELC (slid twice), so there is no pressure point whatsoever (and why are they trading him anyway?)

Why are they trading Mcleod?

Norris is not worth the injury risk given the term and $$.

Alex Tuch, while not a C might be available this summer if the rumors of his desire to leave are true and if the driving force behind that is coming from his wife, Vancouver could be a landing spot as she's from here. Maybe she wants to be closer to family as they're expecting their 2nd child this spring. If (lots of those) he was willing to sign an extension, I could see Ruthervin putting our 1st + Lekkerimaki in play. He'd be a great target and someone I could see meshing with Pettersson (assuming he's staying).....

However, if they aren't keeping Pettersson, maybe something around Kulich and Tuch would work.

 

[arttk]

The only one you might realistically be able to get is Krebs, and i don't think he's much better than Raty currently and has less upside.

Kulich is in year 1 of his ELC (slid twice), so there is no pressure point whatsoever (and why are they trading him anyway?)

Why are they trading Mcleod?

Norris is not worth the injury risk given the term and $$.

Alex Tuch, while not a C might be available this summer if the rumors of his desire to leave are true and if the driving force behind that is coming from his wife, Vancouver could be a landing spot as she's from here. Maybe she wants to be closer to family as they're expecting their 2nd child this spring. If (lots of those) he was willing to sign an extension, I could see Ruthervin putting our 1st + Lekkerimaki in play. He'd be a great target and someone I could see meshing with Pettersson (assuming he's staying).....

However, if they aren't keeping Pettersson, maybe something around Kulich and Tuch would work.

Norris might be the only one that is available due to injury risk and to get him, we probably need offer quite a bit. If they give him up for a small return, then essentially they have given Cozen away for barely anything.

 

[Hodgy]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

I am not sure if the Canucks will be able to afford this (assuming it isn't known that Chytil will start the year on the LTIR). Unless we trade players, we will have about 12 million to sign EHlers and Suter, and this assumes we let Forbot walk. So, you'd need to sign Suter for 4.5 million and Ehlers for 7.5 million, and while that's possible, I could see one or both getting more.

Hoglander Petey Marner
Debrusk Suter Garland
Joshua Raty Sherwood
Gallagher Blueger Karlsson
Lekkerimaki

Chytil to Mtl for Gallagher and a 2nd
O'Connor to Chicago for a 4th

It's gonna have to be by committee type of team. Also expect Suter to return to his below half a PPG and 15 goals for twice the price. Lol.

How would you fit this under the cap? If we trade Chytil for Gallagher, we are adding 2 million dollars in salary, so would have like 10 million to sign both Suter and Marner. Marner and Suter are going to cost around 17-20 million dollars.

I love Hog but I can't help but think he should go and use the saving to sign Suter. Plus Raty, Lek, Sasson and Karlsson are ready to stay with the team imo.

DeBrusk - Pettersson - Lekkerimaki
Suter - Ehlers - Sherwood
Joshua - Raty - Garland
O'Connor - Blueger - Karlsson/Sasson

Hughes - Hronek
M. Pettersson - Myers
E. Pettersson - Forbort/Willander

Demko
Lankinen

This could probably work capwise, and allows them to bring back Forbort which I expect they will be keen to do.

 

[Jerry the great]

Norris might be the only one that is available due to injury risk and to get him, we probably need offer quite a bit. If they give him up for a small return, then essentially they have given Cozen away for barely anything.

I would have no interest in Norris.

 

[Nuckles]

Can't listen to the show right now to confirm (and I haven't seen it posted on social media), but from the trade board:

Dhaliwal on his Donnie and Dhali show today said that he is hearing that the Canucks have already engaged in trade conversations with teams in regards to trading their 2025 1st round pick by draft day. He adds that the Canucks are also willing to attach one of their top prospects in order to get a very good young 2C back as a return. Finally he said that D-petey, Elias Pettersson, is the only prospect that is deemed untouchable. He mentions that the team is also very high and excited about Victor Mancini which may have allowed them to be more open to moving recent 1st round draft pick and stud D prospect, Tom Willander.

There was also a discussion expressing this would be all moot if the Canucks can get a sense that they can sign someone like Sam Bennet, or Mitch Marner.

 

[DFAC]

My newest offseason plan.

Sign Suter and Ehlers. Let boeser walk.

Debrusk Petey ehlers
Hoglander Suter chytil/garland
Joshua blueger Sherwood/garland
O'Conner raty Karlsson/sherwood

Might be the softest top 6 in the league... yeesh.

 

[Nucky]

Can't listen to the show right now to confirm (and I haven't seen it posted on social media), but from the trade board:

Makes perfect sense to me. Quinn Hughes doesn't give a shit about who the Canucks could draft 15th overall in a weak draft.