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[Nucker42]

This management group quickly went from a big time upgrade on Benning to are they actually worse than Benning?

Rutherford got butt hurt with the media and disappeared. No practice rink, what does he actually do?

Allvin moved off guys way too quickly instead of giving them a chance to rebound.

Paid to move off Mikeyev, now a 20 goal guy.

Paid to move off Kuzmenko, looks great in Philly now.

Sold a very likely to be unprotected 2026 1st rounder for a defensive defenseman.

Moved off Heinen, then gave a heftier deal to DOC yet they seem like the same player, moved off Deharnais and Sprong.

Called out Petey, Boeser and Miller in the media. Botched that whole situation.

Probably most unforgivable, failed to move off their UFA’s when they were on the playoff bubble.

Honestly, it’s such an embarrassment to be a fan of this team. They have 1 top prospect in Willander coming and nothing high end beyond that.

They don’t even have a 2C or 3C signed for next year, Chytil probably goes full Poolman now.

How do you go from Horvat, Miller and Petey to Petey and Chytil??

Allvin and Rutherford have completely ruined this team and they play snoozefest hockey. Not even fun to watch anymore.

Same shit, different year.

 

[beachcomber]

That third period 'beat-down' by Vegas last night reinforced one thing for me. The Canucks have far too many small forwards.

Guys like Suter, Blueger, Garland, Hoglander and now Lekkerimaki. It's the basic law of physics. You can't give away that much height and weight every game, and not wear down.

The only guys I'd keep moving forward are Hoglander and Lekkerimaki. Sadly, that would mean sacrificing Garland. But he's a guy who could actually get you something decent in return. Suter is probably gone anyway, and Blueger is somebody they could probably deal for late pick.

The Canucks offseason mantra on the forward line should be--'bigger, stronger and faster'.

Someone gets it. They always look small and slow against Vegas type teams and that never bodes well in the playoffs. If I have to see guys like Karlsson, Aman, Bains etc in the bottom six next year then it is going to be another long one. Zero energy from those types.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

So just bring the same team back?

I guess that is one option, but watching this team struggled so hard to generate offense this season, I'm not looking forward to running it back again.

My opinion is this team needs additions to its forward group, upgrades specifically.

I don't see how letting two of our more productive forwards walk with no easily identifiable upgrades - or even lateral moves - in sight would be a good thing for us.

So just to be clear, I think we should retain Boeser and Suter, and search for additions to our forward group to improve it.

 

[krutovsdonut]

kind of surprised that Raty has popped in 6 goals considering his ice time.

they're honest goals but he's not getting the chances you'd associate with that many goals.

raty's ceiling puzzles me but he's making steady progress and in the nhl at 22 so i am optimistic.

 

[Jerry the great]

My opinion is this team needs additions to its forward group, upgrades specifically.

I don't see how letting two of our more productive forwards walk with no easily identifiable upgrades - or even lateral moves - in sight would be a good thing for us.

So just to be clear, I think we should retain Boeser and Suter, and search for additions to our forward group to improve it.

realistically, If we retain those two we're almost certainly paying them (at least) $12MM combined. which means we have like $2MM for additional upgrades.

 

[Hughes Clues]

My opinion is this team needs additions to its forward group, upgrades specifically.

I don't see how letting two of our more productive forwards walk with no easily identifiable upgrades - or even lateral moves - in sight would be a good thing for us.

So just to be clear, I think we should retain Boeser and Suter, and search for additions to our forward group to improve it.

I get this, but also don't understand how signing Suter and boeser are upgrades over Suter and boeser.

 

[Bubbles]

Fans love our city but even Benning came clean and stated he had to over pay players because none wanted to come here, the same could be happening now.
That is a reason I propose getting the top picks for two or three years at all costs. Those players will be here for close to a decade.
Right now there are a bunch that are about to be released from their indenture, CBA rules, to be free to do what they want.

The problem is that the Canucks have absolutely shied away from drafting or acquiring BC or kids from the West. Heck, getting Canadians on the team is hard.

Bedard, Celebrini and McKenna all grew up Canuck fans. This coming year isn't as strong as next year in terms of kids from the dub. McKenna, Verheoff, Lin and Preston are going to be very impressive in 2026.

Sawyer Mynio getting drafted was a shocker in terms of them looking at the WHL.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Someone gets it. They always look small and slow against Vegas type teams and that never bodes well in the playoffs. If I have to see guys like Karlsson, Aman, Bains etc in the bottom six next year then it is going to be another long one. Zero energy from those types.

in fairness, everybody looks small against vegas.

victor olafsson is the only player under 6' on the vegas roster. shea theodore at 6' 2" and 190lbs is the smallest dman. they have 10 forwards over 200lbs

 

[HairyKneel]

This management group quickly went from a big time upgrade on Benning to are they actually worse than Benning?

Rutherford got butt hurt with the media and disappeared. No practice rink, what does he actually do?

Allvin moved off guys way too quickly instead of giving them a chance to rebound.

Paid to move off Mikeyev, now a 20 goal guy.

Paid to move off Kuzmenko, looks great in Philly now.

Sold a very likely to be unprotected 2026 1st rounder for a defensive defenseman.

Moved off Heinen, then gave a heftier deal to DOC yet they seem like the same player, moved off Deharnais and Sprong.

Called out Petey, Boeser and Miller in the media. Botched that whole situation.

Probably most unforgivable, failed to move off their UFA’s when they were on the playoff bubble.

Honestly, it’s such an embarrassment to be a fan of this team. They have 1 top prospect in Willander coming and nothing high end beyond that.

They don’t even have a 2C or 3C signed for next year, Chytil probably goes full Poolman now.

How do you go from Horvat, Miller and Petey to Petey and Chytil??

Allvin and Rutherford have completely ruined this team and they play snoozefest hockey. Not even fun to watch anymore.

Same shit, different year.

Sure. Allvin is worse than Elmer. What a riveting take.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i can see keeping suter, but he'll be an expensive 3c. boeser is done here unless nobody else wants him.

the canucks have ugly choices with their top 6 forwards and no cap to fix it. they can role the dice on old guys like the oilers do i guess. i think better to go after more unproven suters on the ufa market.

 

[Canucker]

My opinion is this team needs additions to its forward group, upgrades specifically.

I don't see how letting two of our more productive forwards walk with no easily identifiable upgrades - or even lateral moves - in sight would be a good thing for us.

So just to be clear, I think we should retain Boeser and Suter, and search for additions to our forward group to improve it.

Yeah, I'm not sure how they do that in their current cap situation...I think the only thing they can hope for is a return to form by EP40, and that's not even a sure thing. I don't think we can afford Suter at this point, I think the bottom 6 C's will be Raty and Blueger...and we'll have to find a 2nd line C. I'd love to see Boeser back, but I'm not sure he wants back at this point...if thats the case I hope they go big game hunting...if they want to see a resurgence from EP, they need to get him some elite talent to play with...Jake Debrusk doesn't cut it. I think Lekkerimaki will take a big step next season and that could help offset the loss of Boeser, but they need a playmaker like a Marner or someone who can make plays off the wall, like Miller did. Easier said than done, but I think thats the direction they need to go.

 

[aregora]

i can see keeping suter, but he'll be an expensive 3c. boeser is done here unless nobody else wants him.

the canucks have ugly choices with their top 6 forwards and no cap to fix it. they can role the dice on old guys like the oilers do i guess. i think better to go after more unproven suters on the ufa market.

Suter is going to have a lot of suitors on July 1.

 

[arttk]

they're honest goals but he's not getting the chances you'd associate with that many goals.

raty's ceiling puzzles me but he's making steady progress and in the nhl at 22 so i am optimistic.

yeah his shooting % is stupid high right now. I hope he is on the 4th line next season to start, seems like he is the best faceoff center we have. If he can get even faster this offseason then we should have a good one on our hand.

 

[theguardianII]

The problem is that the Canucks have absolutely shied away from drafting or acquiring BC or kids from the West. Heck, getting Canadians on the team is hard.

Bedard, Celebrini and McKenna all grew up Canuck fans. This coming year isn't as strong as next year in terms of kids from the dub. McKenna, Verheoff, Lin and Preston are going to be very impressive in 2026.

Sawyer Mynio getting drafted was a shocker in terms of them looking at the WHL.

The talked about top prospect for the 2027 draft is RHD DuPont, 15 yrs old close to a point per game.

It would be wild if the Canucks could get those three. Misa, McKenna and DuPont all within 3 years.
Now that is fantasy for sure.
But I do think they could possibly get Misa and McKenna. It would be costly but I do think it is possible.

Canuck luck would be somehow they trade for the #1 overall and draft some out of the box positional player ranked #5 or something or get it then trade it away for two picks later picks.

They did draft Virtanen even though they should not have. Bad pick on so many levels.

 

[JT Milker]

I do agree also that Joshua is going to bounce back next season, but I would still have him on the fourth line, because i wanna see Hog and sherwood and Chytil together all year.

Not very nice to hope Hoglander and Sherwood also end up on LTIR for next season.

 

[Jerry the great]

Not very nice to hope Hoglander and Sherwood also end up on LTIR for next season.

well crafted.

 

[Bubbles]

The talked about top prospect for the 2027 draft is RHD DuPont, 15 yrs old close to a point per game.

It would be wild if the Canucks could get those three. Misa, McKenna and DuPont all within 3 years.
Now that is fantasy for sure.
But I do think they could possibly get Misa and McKenna. It would be costly but I do think it is possible.

Canuck luck would be somehow they trade for the #1 overall and draft some out of the box positional player ranked #5 or something or get it then trade it away for two picks later picks.

They did draft Virtanen even though they should not have. Bad pick on so many levels.

That is a fantasy for sure. But than I proposed tanking for Bedard and Mack too, lol.

Ironically the last time someone traded the 1st overall pick away was the Canucks. But it was to get the Sedins so that worked out well. But I don't see a 1st overall pick getting traded away again before the draft.

 

[Nick Lang]

Hoglander re-finding his game after a horrific start has been good to see. Hopefully he's learned how to play out of these funks and is reinvigorated for next year.

Getting him and Joshua back to playing at a 35 point, 15-20 goal pace without seeing first unit powerplay time is a key aspect to the team rebounding next year.

I still don't see a place for Hoglander on this team even though his play has been passable lately. We just signed DOC, we have cancer survivor Joshua signed to a bigger deal just last season, Sherwood, who has been amazing, Lekkerimaki, Garland if he somehow ends up there again, and a plethora of call ups, prospects, and 4th line options. The bottom 6 wings are more than covered and Hoglander in your top 6 is giving up before the seasons starts. It'll be a poor use of $3 mil in cap space on yet another Swiss army knife player. If he isn't traded Hoglander will have more to do with sinking the team then making it rebound (imho).

 

[Nuckles]

They may not even have enough cap space to re-sign both Boeser and Suter on July 1st.

You're not wrong. This team essentially needs an entire 1st line and currently doesn't have the cap space or expendable assets to get it.

But considering the season that just took place, I'm expecting at least one roster player with a sizable cap hit to be moved. Likely Demko and maybe one of the forwards as well.

As silly as it sounds, this team desperately needs to win the draft lottery and move up 10 spots. The future currently doesn't look great, very mushy middle-ish that can quickly fall apart if Hughes leaves.

 

[Canucks LB]

What targets do you like?

@Vector

 

[Nucker42]

Sure. Allvin is worse than Elmer. What a riveting take.

Oh sorry thought this was a discussion forum. Your input really brings a lot though.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I still would have liked for mgmt to hold onto the Rags 1st given it's likely to slide into 2026 unprotected.

Understand it's been their MO to trade for and immediately flip picks for other players but I would have offered a package around Hog, Kud, etc. first.

Not sure if it would have got the deal done but that pick could be very valuable especially given where this team is and where it needs to go.

 

[bossram]

I still would have liked for mgmt to hold onto the Rags 1st given it's likely to slide into 2026 unprotected.

Understand it's been their MO to trade for and immediately flip picks for other players but I would have offered a package around Hog, Kud, etc. first.

Not sure if it would have got the deal done but that pick could be very valuable especially given where this team is and where it needs to go.

Yep. I said it then. They should not have traded the Rangers' 1st. Has the potential to be an extremely valuable piece, where if they get lucky could transform the Canucks as a franchise.

 

[ScottishCanuck]

I think we're undeniably set at D going into next season. And frighteningly lacking in depth and talent in the forward positions. The reverse of last year. I don't think it'll take a miracle for this team to make the playoffs, but there's not a lot of options out there and the cap space disappears quickly. As much as I like Boeser I'm not sure he's the answer for us - I have no idea of who to replace him with though.

I'm pissed at the way things have gone this season. I'm pissed at Miller for being a man child (he has set us back hugely with it), I'm pissed at Petey for letting it get into his head to the point at which he was invisible for so many stretches (even considering injury), and I'm pissed at management for letting it get to the stage it did.

Next season can't be worse.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I get this, but also don't understand how signing Suter and boeser are upgrades over Suter and boeser.

I think by retaining these two, you just stay at your current level, and then seek additional help to bolster. That's the point I'm getting at.

If we lose those two, you have to go about replacing what they brought and then looking to upgrade in addition to that, which I think is too tall an order for us given the free agent market, but also what we have to offer in the trade market.