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Rantanen might be the only elite elite level forward with no issues (behavioral, physical) traded in recent years. I mean, when was the last time a 100+ point forward was traded? Stone & Eichel didn't have a history of multiple 100+ point seasons when they were traded.

He’s also just the highest scoring forward, period, who’s still in their prime that’s been traded in a very long time. He’s in a category above the others I’ve mentioned, and those players will always demand a ton of elite assets.
 
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Matthew Tkachuk for Jonathan Huberdeau.
Guentzel is close too. Was on pace for 94 points last season, had gone over PPG on some mediocre Pittsburgh teams, and is a playoff performer.

Patrick Kane was one season removed from 92 points.
 
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Matthew Tkachuk for Jonathan Huberdeau.
with no issues, Calgary had one big issue with Tkachuk, he won't sign, oh wait .. i guess that is the same issue Avs faced too. Nevermind. . But I think even then, Rantanen is way more proven.

edit NEVER MIND, Tkachuk is just as proven but then the return for Tkachuk is not bad I guess.
 
with no issues, Calgary had one big issue with Tkachuk, he won't sign, oh wait .. i guess that is the same issue Avs faced too. Nevermind. . But I think even then, Rantanen is way more proven
The Avalanche traded Rantanen because they didn't want to pay him the money he wanted. But he otherwise wanted to stay. The Flames would have happily paid Tkachuk the money he want, but he didn't want to stay in any event.
 
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Guentzel is close too. Was on pace for 94 points last season, had gone over PPG on some mediocre Pittsburgh teams, and is a playoff performer.

Patrick Kane was one season removed from 92 points.
Guentzel is nowhere close to Tkachuk and Rantanen though
 
The Avalanche traded Rantanen because they didn't want to pay him the money he wanted. But he otherwise wanted to stay. The Flames would have happily paid Tkachuk the money he want, but he didn't want to stay in any event.
well, it turns out Rantanen wanted to stay but the agent and him f***ed up that negotiation but yeah at the end of the day, the issues are similar, one side didn't want to sign.
 
Marek suggesting Pettersson and Tocchet don’t get along.



I don't dislike toc... but it makes sense.

Also easy chose there... the 100 pt selke player or the guy who thought it was a good idea to get that 100 pt selke player to change how he played.

I don't want this to become a Pettersson thread... but just in general. Why...
 
Marek suggesting Pettersson and Tocchet don’t get along.



I dunno, Marek is a Leafs guy so seems unlikely he'd have inside info.

Allvin has stated repeatedly that Tocchet and Pettersson have a good relationship.
 
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It's kinda ridiculous - it appears he's claiming that Rutherford was putting pressure on him to agree to his option year but it's obvious that Rutherford actually wanted him gone.

I guess it's hard to see the game pass you by but a guy who has coached teams to 600 wins in the NHL should probably have a bit of a thicker skin.
Sure, but he also got completely screwed over when he was here, I can see why he is pissed off.
That being said, my god, how long has it been already?
 
Sure, but he also got completely screwed over when he was here, I can see why he is pissed off.
That being said, my god, how long has it been already?

The man got his last chance at coaching and got his money, I wouldn't say he got screwed over at all. He knew what he was getting into when he activated his option. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, knew that management REALLY REALLY did not want him to be their coach and the odds of him getting fired would be like 100%.
 
Agreed, though Marek has never struck me as someone who makes things up either.

I mean, this one isn’t hard to read the tea leaves on. It’s also not a coaches job to be liked, it’s to get the best out of your guys. Their relationship likely strained when Tocchet was wondering wtf was going on with Petey for over a year like the rest of us, and then worked him to try and fix it.

Petey comes in and plays well next year, guarantee there’s no problem between player and coach.

Also I’m an idiot for forgetting the Huberdeau + Weager deal for Tkachuk, that was the other time a winger demanded elite assets. I still think the Canucks can get what they’re looking for on the wings cheaper than people think (assets wise, not contract).
 
well, it turns out Rantanen wanted to stay but the agent and him f***ed up that negotiation but yeah at the end of the day, the issues are similar, one side didn't want to sign.
But the issues were entirely different between those two situations. The only similarity is that each player was traded and didn’t sign, but the why is completely different.
 
I mean, this one isn’t hard to read the tea leaves on. It’s also not a coaches job to be liked, it’s to get the best out of your guys. Their relationship likely strained when Tocchet was wondering wtf was going on with Petey for over a year like the rest of us, and then worked him to try and fix it.

Petey comes in and plays well next year, guarantee there’s no problem between player and coach.

Also I’m an idiot for forgetting the Huberdeau + Weager deal for Tkachuk, that was the other time a winger demanded elite assets. I still think the Canucks can get what they’re looking for on the wings cheaper than people think (assets wise, not contract).
Ya, things get painted in a very black and white way for relationships when in reality they are not. Pettersson is likely frustrated with his current play, and for good reason, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all that he isn’t loving playing for Tochett given how he’s played the last year. But that doesn’t mean he hates Tochett or anything.
 
If Bruce Boudreau and Rachel Doerrie had a podcast where they both bitched about the Canucks and getting fired it would probably be pretty listenable.

The Old Man And The B -- available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts
 
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