Canucks & NHL News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | Playing out the stretch.
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Reverend Mayhem
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just checked his EDGE stats, his speed is wild, it's like drastically different every season, goes from 90percentil to like below 50 back to 70ish and then back to 50ish. Was he injured a lot?
In a press conference during their 12 game losing streak earlier this season Quinn's name came up when the topic was contract extensions/spending money (and all their unutilized cap space). Adams was grumbling about his ask and when the reporter said something about his slow start to the season keeping a lid on his next deal, Adams told the reporter to "tell that to his agent". He's turned it on a bit in garbage time and his numbers look less hideous than they did over his first 23 games when he had 1 G 4A, but i got the sense they weren't really sold on the player at all and hated the idea of having to pay him what he was asking for.
I personally don't like him. He's soft AF, not a great skater and not good at all defensively. He's probably available in trade if we want him, I just can't see us being interested....especially if we're keeping Tocchet.
So along with a 5.5M of dead cap, they have a 4.4M of maybe Ltir, unless Chytil says he's fine which could be late in the summer, not sure how they will operate with this hanging over the heads. That bounty on Dickinson better get collected next season.
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I have to believe management knew he was going to get concussed again and is probably going to be dead cap anyways.
I tried to tell people that Chytil was not a positive asset coming back and was more so a piece in lieu for retention on JT Millers 8 mil contract. You hope Chytil is just healthy enough to be bought out at some point.
rypper
21-12-05 it's finally over.
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I've been concerned with all the site changes that this amazing post was going to be lost in the ether, but with the Lafreniere talk it's prime time to post it.
thecupismine
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Those numbers are fair, but I'd argue that puts him as a #7 on a team that wants to contend, even if on average he's a #5. The goal should be to push him onto the third line, but I don't know if they can accomplish that in one offseason.
Reverend Mayhem
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Just an all time sequence of posts.
Right. So Buffalo isn't going to dump him as a reclamation project right now and it's silly to suggest they would
Diablo2020
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Stay. In. Your. Lane. Canucks fans.
We have evolved to realize we are a bottom 10 cap situation and wont be the finalists for Ehlers and Bennett. Does anyone see the assets required to grab any of these players via trade or offersheet they are suggesting?!
Utah, for example, is sitting on 20 former high picks, just traded the Weber contract to give themselves ample room, and actually have a young core to trade for and still surround a JJ Peterka with.
We, do not.
Especially not robbing Peter to pay Paul like what a Benson would cost (Hronek or Willander likely)
Marco Rossi offersheet, I hate the player but could see it.
Jack Quinn, I could see it.
Once you start thinking above that line, your all just setting yourselves up for Cozens, Norris dissapointment, yet again.
The bolded is absolutely not true.
Diablo2020
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Umm, your the one who expanded and steamlined the 32 team list I posted a month ago.
Sorry, looks like we're a bottom 11 team.
Now consider of that (checks YOUR notes) 15.93m, we actually need to replace Boeser, Suter and Forbort.
Are we not completely ****** and probably worse off than a bottom 10 outlook kind sir?
Is there actually room for a 8-9m Rossi offersheet while still upgrading the roster?!
Say Ehlers did sign for a 9m av, is 6m enough to replace Suter and Forbort PLUS improve the team?
Are you seeing 18/23 for us compared to others and just auto correlating that the heavy lifting is done?!
Bro we are in baaaaaaad shape.
Boston, Philly, Utah, Anaheim and Columbus all lap us here in short order. Either tonnes of space, tonnes of picks, or just both. Neither do we have.
Plus we now are worse than Calgary Flames. Tonnes of prospects, tonnes of space, new arena coming soon.
Living in cowtown, im actually sickened.
rypper
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Do people just look at teams upcoming cap space and fawn or do they look at actually rosters and players that need to be signed etc?
Peen
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You know the answer to this.
Reverend Mayhem
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Extend Surer, trade Garland, play Lekk on the 3rd line, use Garland’s cap on a 2nd line winger that has a more defined strength, either pure scorer or playmaker that has speed. Use remaining cap on another 2nd line winger that is a playmaker and play him on the top line. Technically those 2 could be a stop gap solution and can be a cheaper option. Save the money on the 2C, if we can’t spend it on one then get a budget 2C and then go into the season with cap and use that to get a guy with the intention to extend at TDL.
Diablo2020
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Anaheim Ducks, 40m capspace.
Key RFAs - Mason McTavish and Lukas Dostal. (7m each at the highest?)
"But they wont spend to the cap!!!!" says a bunch of Canuck fans.
Just gave Vatrano a Ohtani type deal. Which to me signals they wanna use that space soon. Verbeek on year 3 or 4 im sure he doesnt want to stay mid forever.
Capable of signing Alex Killorn types to 6.5m aav.
Capable of trading for Jacob Trouba, at full salary, without getting paid to do so.
Sitting on a core of Carlsson, McTavish, Terry, Zegras, Gauthier, Lacombe, Minty, Zellweger, Dostal.
Just drafted a kid 2nd overall.
About to draft another top 10.
You'd be silly not to fear Anaheim lapping this franchise here in the immediate future.
Columbus is exactly the same (voronkov lone key rfa) minus having the stud goalie.
Philly the same minus the tendy. (foerster, cates, york wont eat up 25m nope)
Utah the same minus the tendy. (not even a key rfa to sign, McBain gets 2-3m)
You are all kidding yourselves if you dont see the assets, the cores, and the capspace around you all.
Calgary has 37m and three 5,000,000 RFAs to sign.
We are wayyyyy behind.
Seattle is capable and desperate enough to sign Stephenson and Mountour to 7 yr deals and now have a few prospects to trade to break out of the mid card.
Every team I look at has favourable future and with the capbump every team has space even after signings.
The league just announced a new CDN TV deal. Frankie just got guaranteed chedder coming. Every team did.
when you consider who is expiring on the canucks roster and who is expiring on the teams with less cap space the canucks are probably like bottom five cap situation
dallas is worse. colorado is probably worse depending on what happens with nelson and landeskog. tampa is arguably worse but only if you think they need to resign gourde. st louis and montreal have less cap space but also are losing basically no one they'll need to replace. new york and edmonton are probably about equal to vancouver but all new yorks free agents are rfas and edmonton just has bouchard and maybe skinner or frederic to really worry about
every other team either has more cap space than they can use or have their rosters already set
this doesn't mean vancouver will finish bottom five next year of course but they are faced with losing two key players in boeser and suter and they don't have the cap space to throw around that teams like carolina, winnipeg, minnesota, florida and los angeles have
this is a little out of date now with some subsequent contracts but nothing has gotten better for vancouver
We have to look at moving most if not all of Chytil, Hoglander, Joshua (as hard as it may be), Blueger, and possibly Lankinen.
