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[Ernie]

Boeser seems to know a number that the rest of the league is willing to give him; Canucks are just below that number

How quickly we went from "Boeser is a team guy and will be willing to sign at a discount" to "Boeser wants to get paid" as it becomes clear that the 40 goal season was a one-off.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Willander will obviously sign.

For fun, if you had to do a drysdale - cutter type deal, who would you target?

Wright or Catton. Whichever Seattle is willing to part with.

 

[Jerry the great]

Willander will obviously sign.

For fun, if you had to do a drysdale - cutter type deal, who would you target?

Ryan Leonard
Isaac Howard
Jack Devine

 

[credulous]

Wright or Catton. Whichever Seattle is willing to part with.

i'm not convinced catton will play c at the pro level but wright would be a great addition. i think seattle would want the world for him though. willander alone probably doesn't get it done

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Willander will obviously sign.

For fun, if you had to do a drysdale - cutter type deal, who would you target?

Kulich or Helenuis from Buffalo they need a right handed defensemen to play with Power or Byram.

Dvorsky but the Blues don’t really have anyone else at center.

Michael Hage+

No one else the last two drafts have been pretty light on centers. Which is why this draft at the top is unique it’s basically all centers.

 

[Qwijibo]

In the sense that he plays for the Buffalo Sabres, so that world

I doubt Buffalo sees thier 19 year old former 13th OA pick as a reclamation project

 

[Hughes Clues]

This was brought up on Canucks central. I wonder what it would cost to get Lafreniere from the rags. He checks a few boxes like being a young C with speed. Can't win a draw to save his life but we have the D to back him up.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

This was brought up on Canucks central. I wonder what it would cost to get Lafreniere from the rags. He checks a few boxes like being a young C with speed. Can't win a draw to save his life but we have the D to back him up.

He's not a C. Would look nice on LW though.

 

[Hughes Clues]

He's not a C. Would look nice on LW though.

Derp. Why did I always have him at c

 

[Vector]

This was brought up on Canucks central. I wonder what it would cost to get Lafreniere from the rags. He checks a few boxes like being a young C with speed. Can't win a draw to save his life but we have the D to back him up.

Lafreniere has never been a centre. He's been a popular speculative target for Canucks fans for years. His former agent is Emilie Castonguay.

Given he's had another down year and is just starting his big contract, I think there's some way he could be acquired. I think the ask is going to be more than his actual worth, though.

 

[dbaz]

if you re-sign suter you may as well buy out chytil. so theres still cap space

see if buffalo is interested in garland, package him with the 2025 1st and see if you can grab 2 of their wingers

 

[dbaz]

Lafreniere has never been a centre. He's been a popular speculative target for Canucks fans for years. His former agent is Emilie Castonguay.

But that one guy, with that one link. swears he is

 

[VanJack]

Lafreniere's contract bumps up to $7.45m next season, and doesn't expire until the end of the 2032 season.

And his current production of 16 goals and 27 assists in 74 games is miles behind that contract number. If he was a natural center, I might see it. But he's been a winger for his entire NHL career.

For that kind of money, the Canucks would be better off bringing back Boeser, who's older, but a more reliable scorer.

 

[F A N]

Lafreniere has never been a centre. He's been a popular speculative target for Canucks fans for years. His former agent is Emilie Castonguay.

Given he's had another down year and is just starting his big contract, I think there's some way he could be acquired. I think the ask is going to be more than his actual worth, though.

I think the "ask being more than his actual worth" is going to be entirely subjective. In reality, the Rangers aren't trading him if they think he's going to bounce back and be a 30+ goal PPG+ winger. If they are trading him what's the realistic price? A similarly aged player who plays another position? A Norris for Cousins type swap? We don't have that unless we're willing to part with Willander. If it's 1st + 3rd I would make that trade. But "worth" depends on the player you're getting in LAF. If you're getting a 30+ goal PPG+ winger who produces at even strength signed for 7x$7.45M that's a fair price.

 

[Hodgy]

He's not a C. Would look nice on LW though.

PHOTO DANNY WILD, ARCHIVES USA TODAY SPORTS

Alexis Lafrenière (center) is off to a great start to the season with six points in five games.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I think the "ask being more than his actual worth" is going to be entirely subjective. In reality, the Rangers aren't trading him if they think he's going to bounce back and be a 30+ goal PPG+ winger. If they are trading him what's the realistic price? A similarly aged player who plays another position? A Norris for Cousins type swap? We don't have that unless we're willing to part with Willander. If it's 1st + 3rd I would make that trade. But "worth" depends on the player you're getting in LAF. If you're getting a 30+ goal PPG+ winger who produces at even strength signed for 7x$7.45M that's a fair price.

I’d offer Hog, Kud + 2025 2nd.

Not sure I want to offer the 2025 1st.

Quantity over quality.

 

[quat]

Listening to Hansen, and he seems very pragmatic with his thoughts on the team. Not very positive and very realistic about what assets the team has to build their team. Mushy middle without much positive to look forward to.

This season killed the team.

 

[Jerry the great]

I think the "ask being more than his actual worth" is going to be entirely subjective. In reality, the Rangers aren't trading him if they think he's going to bounce back and be a 30+ goal PPG+ winger. If they are trading him what's the realistic price? A similarly aged player who plays another position? A Norris for Cousins type swap? We don't have that unless we're willing to part with Willander. If it's 1st + 3rd I would make that trade. But "worth" depends on the player you're getting in LAF. If you're getting a 30+ goal PPG+ winger who produces at even strength signed for 7x$7.45M that's a fair price.

Other than being drafted 1OA, what has he ever done to indicate 30G and 50A was a reasonable expectation?

I really question how much “skill” he has. It took him like 150 GP (3rd NHL season) before he scored a PP goal and he has less of those in his career than Boeser has scored this season. The only time he managed to produce much in the way of offense (relative to his draft position) was last year when he played almost exclusively with Panarin and Trochek who both had career years (Lafreniere was the weakest link on the line by far)

Not sure it makes much sense to spend a ton to bring in a player that may be significantly overpaid. If the Rangers are desperate to move on from him and the cost drops to something like Mynio + a 2nd maybe I'd be interested.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

PHOTO DANNY WILD, ARCHIVES USA TODAY SPORTS

Alexis Lafrenière (center) is off to a great start to the season with six points in five games.

Ok but he’s still a LW.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Listening to Hansen, and he seems very pragmatic with his thoughts on the team. Not very positive and very realistic about what assets the team has to build their team. Mushy middle without much positive to look forward to.

This season killed the team.

They need a top 6 center along with 2 skilled wingers. We probably need an elite forward. These are holes that will not be filled in one offseason. You also cannot blow you wad at signing UFAs to address these holes.

At best we can sign a bunch of 40-50 point guys and hope to god we become the next 2014-2020 Nashville Predators and fluke out one cup run but odds are seriously stacked against this franchise.

 

[bossram]

Seen some people mention Jack Quinn as an offer sheet target. He's recently kinda revived his season, and he has some pedigree that might hint at more upside.

The $4.58M threshold is a 2nd round pick. Buffalo will have the cap space to match, but Pegula has been pretty cheap with the franchise in recent years. A multi-year deal that is front-loaded + almost all signing bonus might just make Pegula/Adams balk at the cash.

He hasn't played center in the NHL, but he was a center in junior. Unlikely, but might be an option to explore.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I doubt Buffalo sees thier 19 year old former 13th OA pick as a reclamation project

No team ever does, that's how they become reclamation projects.

 

[arttk]

They need a top 6 center along with 2 skilled wingers. We probably need an elite forward. These are holes that will not be filled in one offseason. You also cannot blow you wad at signing UFAs to address these holes.

At best we can sign a bunch of 40-50 point guys and hope to god we become the next 2014-2020 Nashville Predators and fluke out one cup run but odds are seriously stacked against this franchise.

just get a bunch of 2nd paring guys for next season and then see if they can be a 2-3 division seed. If we are there, use the 1st and prospect and maybe a roster guy to get a top line guy at TDL and extend him.

In the off-season, try to sign a 1st line player and if you get that then we good, if we can't, sign another 2nd line player and then do the same damn thing at TDL and flip for one.

 

[F A N]

Other than being drafted 1OA, what has he ever done to indicate 30G and 50A was a reasonable expectation?

I'm not saying it's a reasonable expectation. I'm just saying that if the Rangers are looking to trade him I could see the ask being something we're willing to do. And "worth" is completely dependent on the type of player he is going forward. His previous seasons where he scored 28 goals and 57 points including 8 goals and 14 points in 16 games in the playoffs suggests he could get to that 30G 50A production level. This year not so much.

I really question how much “skill” he has. It took him like 150 GP (3rd NHL season) before he scored a PP goal and he has less of those in his career than Boeser has scored this season. The only time he managed to produce much in the way of offense (relative to his draft position) was last year when he played almost exclusively with Panarin and Trochek who both had career years (Lafreniere was the weakest link on the line by far)

Not sure it makes much sense to spend a ton to bring in a player that may be significantly overpaid. If the Rangers are desperate to move on from him and the cost drops to something like Mynio + a 2nd maybe I'd be interested.

I think his skill level is fine, has good instincts, and has a good one timer. But obviously if you don't like him you might not want to touch his contract.

 

[Diversification]

Worst situation possible. They don't know if they can put him on LTIR indefinitely next season and therefore can't use his cap space. Even if he comes back he's one more hit away from this. Huge own goal here and something they should have foreseen given they still retaining a portion of Poolman's salary.

Here's his buyout. It's not that bad to be honest, especially with the rising cap: