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[VanillaCoke]

Rutherford did say today that Petey didn't come in in top shape.

Has he ever?
Clearly doesn't train in the summers the way top pros do, basically zero improvements in six years. Still a skinny weak Bambi, but he butt checkss now!

No time with yachting around maldives for a month.

Gimme cozens & power (byram i know)

 

[Szechwan]

If you want to continue to lean on that crutch, have at it.

I mean if the shoe fits. Petey is on record saying he had to "train around his knee issue."

Wouldn't be surprised if he tried to give it rest, and his cardio suffered.

 

[arttk]

If you want to continue to lean on that crutch, have at it.

It’s f***ing obvious.
Dude changed training regime to “get around” the knee issue and then comes back not as fit.
If you can’t connect the dots then that’s on you.

It should be obvious that Petey refuses to use this as an excuse to the point his teammates thinks this is not actually an injury. But if you look at his actions then everything points to it being a much more serious injury than he is willing to admit.

 

[Jerry the great]

It’s f***ing obvious.
Dude changed training regime to “get around” the knee issue and then comes back not as fit.
If you can’t connect the dots then that’s on you.

It should be obvious that Petey refuses to use this as an excuse to the point his teammates thinks this is not actually an injury. But if you look at his actions then everything points to it being a much more serious injury than he is willing to admit.

Comic gold.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Gary Mason disappeared for like what, a decade? longer?

Now he's back with a vengeance.

IMac must be pissed.

Don't have enough time or energy to cut and paste Aqua, Mason, and Imac's faces on this picture

 

[Bleach Clean]

It’s f***ing obvious.
Dude changed training regime to “get around” the knee issue and then comes back not as fit.
If you can’t connect the dots then that’s on you.

It should be obvious that Petey refuses to use this as an excuse to the point his teammates thinks this is not actually an injury. But if you look at his actions then everything points to it being a much more serious injury than he is willing to admit.

I wouldn't fret over it. You either give grace to Pettersson for the injury, or you don't. But isn't it all besides the point?

When Pettersson was a twig, he flashed superstar potential. When he put on a bit of weight, still not up to standard, he put up 102 points in 80 games.

Now, he's still out of shape and has had his worst season. Ergo, his shape doesn't determine his effectiveness. It's just what other players/people look at to gauge his commitment.

As a control, look at Hoglander: Fittest guy on the team and he's had a terrible year.

Miller should obviously worry about himself. He can't help it. Ironically, he's shown up in shape and has had his worst year over the past 5 years...

 

[arttk]

I wouldn't fret over it. You either give grace to Pettersson for the injury, or you don't. But it isn't it all besides the point?

When Pettersson was a twig, he flashed superstar potential. When he put on a bit of weight, still not up to standard (he never had been), he put up 102 points in 80 games.

Now, he's still out of shape and has had his worst season. Ergo, his shape doesn't determine his effectiveness. It's just what other players/people look at to gauge his commitment.

As a control, look at Hoglander: Fittest guy on the team and he's had a terrible year.

Miller should obviously worry about himself. He can't help it. Ironically, he's shown up in shape and has had his worst year over the past 5 years...

Yeah the team is a mess right now for sure.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Don't have enough time or energy to cut and paste Aqua, Mason, and Imac's faces on this picture

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[Orr4Norris]

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Not unseeing that. Thanks

 

[thecupismine]

Screw this Miller/Petey stuff, the real problem is we need to deal Juulsen so our coach stops putting forward this abomination of a pair whenever he can

 

[arttk]

Screw this Miller/Petey stuff, the real problem is we need to deal Juulsen so our coach stops putting forward this abomination of a pair whenever he can

Play Juulsen and we struggle in the 2nd and 3rd, coincidence????

 

[mriswith]

I'm resigned to having to wait for Willander to punt Juulsen out at this point.

Even if we trade for Pettersson, Tocchet probably sits Forbort rather than play Soucy on the right by choice.

 

[ExarKun80]

Should tell that to the 10,000 or so idiots that went to arena in April 2014.

That's the reason he's not our GM.

Most of those idiots were an excuse for Blueberry to fire Gillis. They've already been feuding for 1 year since Gillis wanted to rebuild after 2013 but Fredo wanted to squeeze more playoff revenue out of that core and pushed for the hire of Torts. Fredo also used his shills in the media to shift all the blame on Gillis who was going to get fired no matter what at that point. Suddenly he squandered the core and shit like that, a narrative that has been pushed here by some users during the Benning era. Some of them are still here gathering feedback.

 

[Big zZz]

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[Bobby9]

It’s f***ing obvious.
Dude changed training regime to “get around” the knee issue and then comes back not as fit.
If you can’t connect the dots then that’s on you.

It should be obvious that Petey refuses to use this as an excuse to the point his teammates thinks this is not actually an injury. But if you look at his actions then everything points to it being a much more serious injury than he is willing to admit.

Youre connecting random dots and presenting it as fact. Thats on you

 

[supercanuck]

So assuming that we can't get the "young player+prospect+1st" package for JT (which I don't think we can), are there any "distressed" assets around the league that we can potentially pickup and see a potential for a rebound?

I'm thinking along the lines of the PLD for Keumper trade where it has gone relatively well for both teams, but both assets were fairly negative in terms of trade value at the time.

Just as an example and not advocating for it...if management thinks that they can "fix" Zib then there could be a Zib+pick for JT type of trade. Something along those lines.

 

[arttk]

So assuming that we can't get the "young player+prospect+1st" package for JT (which I don't think we can), are there any "distressed" assets around the league that we can potentially pickup and see a potential for a rebound?

I'm thinking along the lines of the PLD for Keumper trade where it has gone relatively well for both teams, but both assets were fairly negative in terms of trade value at the time.

Just as an example and not advocating for it...if management thinks that they can "fix" Zib then there could be a Zib+pick for JT type of trade. Something along those lines.

Still think the most ideal outcome is we hold on to Miller this season, he has a good 4 nations, we somehow make it into the playoffs (not a stretch) and then Miller has a really good playoffs.

Even if the starting price is lower because everyone knows we’ll trade him away, the fact he performed well and maybe several teams will come in to bid should jack up the price somewhat.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Casey Mittelstadt, but no one wants to hear that. As arttk said, the best case scenario is everyone figures it out. Like, from what's all come out, it's not that bad. Most of these guys came up during the circus era, and are just now figuring out how to win properly. But they will rely on Demko way too much which is fine for a stretch, but not a whole season.

 

[andora]

Casey Mittelstadt, but no one wants to hear that. As arttk said, the best case scenario is everyone figures it out. Like, from what's all come out, it's not that bad. Most of these guys came up during the circus era, and are just now figuring out how to win properly. But they will rely on Demko way too much which is fine for a stretch, but not a whole season.

No its not - really bad stuff with this much attention gets out

I almost responded to someone the other night basically saying if the actual stuff came out most of the board would probably go - thats it?

 

[supercanuck]

Still think the most ideal outcome is we hold on to Miller this season, he has a good 4 nations, we somehow make it into the playoffs (not a stretch) and then Miller has a really good playoffs.

Even if the starting price is lower because everyone knows we’ll trade him away, the fact he performed well and maybe several teams will come in to bid should jack up the price somewhat.

I'm a bit worried that it will go the other way. Those 2 giveaways in the 3rd were not good. We were extremely lucky none of those ended up in the back of the net.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

No its not - really bad stuff with this much attention gets out

I almost responded to someone the other night basically saying if the actual stuff came out most of the board would probably go - thats it?

I get a really weird vibe off this team. Like, spooky weird. I've never got this sort of vibe from a team doing this well in the standings since 2008-09. Everything looks like it's about to fall apart, but it just won't. This is principally when you should be having 'business meetings' or 'player's only' meetings.

 

[theguardianII]

Most of those idiots were an excuse for Blueberry to fire Gillis. They've already been feuding for 1 year since Gillis wanted to rebuild after 2013 but Fredo wanted to squeeze more playoff revenue out of that core and pushed for the hire of Torts. Fredo also used his shills in the media to shift all the blame on Gillis who was going to get fired no matter what at that point. Suddenly he squandered the core and shit like that, a narrative that has been pushed here by some users during the Benning era. Some of them are still here gathering feedback

In the past but;

Gillis had a chance for a meaningful re-tooling as well.
The team would never be bad enough as long as Luongo was here, so gone.
Two bad years, go for the rumored Larkin in the first year
And the next be in the McDavid draft near the first, the last year of the unmodified draft. But a good pick coming regardless.
Still have the Sedins as mentors.
Still had most of the veteran defence
Could have signed a goalie or Markstrom in his second season with Clarke.
The third year could have been so different with Horvat , Larkin and a top 3 pick in the McD draft.
Then at worst, trade the Sedins as a pair at the TDL for a haul and re-sign them next season to retire or even play limited minutes. There was no trophy for playing for only one team and it certainly didn't do anything to help the team.
Every year Gillis's management group had cap space.
The Sedins really liked Torts and he is noted as getting the best and teaching the young players while starting in the NHL. Even his assistant went on to coach Pittsburgh to a cup and for multiple years.

It's in the past now but it does seem it was right there with almost no extra pain involved. But the local media really liked the freebee's Mr. Ego gave them, leaked news, inside stuff, beer, dinner, access so there was a media revolt and incensed the fanbase daily. That was before Rogers getting sole rights to the NHL as a partner.
Now any fan discontent need jersey's thrown during a national game, Booing louder than the piped in cheering or pre-recorded chants from past games, banners flown behind planes or lots of empty seats

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I get a really weird vibe off this team. Like, spooky weird. I've never got this sort of vibe from a team doing this well in the standings since 2008-09. Everything looks like it's about to fall apart, but it just won't. This is principally when you should be having 'business meetings' or 'player's only' meetings.

That losing streak in January 2009 was caused by a debuting Sundin looking rusty as hell and very bad luck towards the end. I remember being irate at the fact the team was playing well but getting screwed by fluke goals against, crap reffing and weird bounces.

This is a case where a few guys (Hughes) are carrying the franchise on their back and trying to do everything humanly possible to get us into the playoffs but being f***ed over by 1-2 guys. This is like how the Sedins took over the team in 2005-06 while you had a cast of bitches (Bertuzzi and Jovanovski) sabotaging any hopes of a playoff run with childish on-ice and locker room antics.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

That losing streak in January 2009 was caused by a debuting Sundin looking rusty as hell and very bad luck towards the end. I remember being irate at the fact the team was playing well but getting screwed by fluke goals against, crap reffing and weird bounces.

This is a case where a few guys (Hughes) are carrying the franchise on their back and trying to do everything humanly possible to get us into the playoffs but being f***ed over by 1-2 guys.

In the same way, this is like how the Sedins took over the team in 2005-06 while you had a cast of bitches (Bertuzzi and Jovanovski) sabotaging any hopes of a playoff run with childish on-ice and locker room antics.

Bang on. Yeah, I felt like everyone came in and saw Sundin as some saviour when really he had nothing figured out except how to be a professional, coming from a sabbatical. And that's what Kesler, Juice, Burr, the Sedins said and say...It was essentially the Messier gambit that worked out even better than anyone could have thought. There was only 1 month of pain. That's not that bad.

That particular losing streak was mired as you say by great hockey undone by a select few hotheads who would take a bad penalty that was always going to be called, and then folding like a cheap suit. The earlier team I can vibe on, but I was too young to watch hockey properly.

BTW, it was Sundin taking a lot of the bad penalties.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Currently in a playoff spot. Team is trying to string wins together. if management doesn’t do something to help this team right now….

Get rid of or send down the deadweights. There is no excuse for guys like Juulsen and Desharnais to be anywhere near our line up. f*** just do something you morons.