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[Vector]

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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[Jerry the great]

AFP released their updated contract extension projections for players needing a new deal after 2024-25.

Here's what they project for the following Canucks (Assuming a $92M salary cap):

• Brock Boeser - 7y x $9,012,933
• Nils Hoglander - 2y x $2,643,938
• Pius Suter - 4y x $3,441,260

i'd offer Hoglander 4x$2.5 on July 1st.

Then I'd offer Victor Arvidsson a 2 year $5MM contract so Hoglander has the perfect role model (and we address our top 6 scoring need)

 

[arttk]

"Awww, that’s a real shame.

Hopefully that wonderful Edmonton fanbase can look back fondly on this near miss when their franchise moves to Houston in 5 years."

I can't reply to your post directly since the thread is closed, so I am just going to do something a little weird and post it here.

I just want to say I am a huge fan of your sports takes and you almost always are the voice of reason. But your take on Edmonton is such boring childish tribalism. Whether it be insulting McDavid as the whiniest player in the league, or commenting that the building is dead and the fanbase is super quiet, or joking that they' be leaving in a few years. Whatever silly hyperbole it is, it's quiet a contrast to your usual voice of reason. As a born and bred Canucks fan who lives in Edmonton and has experienced what a crazy fanbase the Oilers have, it's kind of sad that someone so smart comes across so ill-informed just because they can't extract the us vs them homerism from their childhood.

f*** the oilers

 

[JT Milker]

AFP released their updated contract extension projections for players needing a new deal after 2024-25.

Here's what they project for the following Canucks (Assuming a $92M salary cap):

• Brock Boeser - 7y x $9,012,933
• Nils Hoglander - 2y x $2,643,938
• Pius Suter - 4y x $3,441,260

Would easily let Boeser walk at that price.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

AFP released their updated contract extension projections for players needing a new deal after 2024-25.

Here's what they project for the following Canucks (Assuming a $92M salary cap):

• Brock Boeser - 7y x $9,012,933
• Nils Hoglander - 2y x $2,643,938
• Pius Suter - 4y x $3,441,260

Goodbye Boeser.

 

[alternate]

"Awww, that’s a real shame.

Hopefully that wonderful Edmonton fanbase can look back fondly on this near miss when their franchise moves to Houston in 5 years."

I can't reply to your post directly since the thread is closed, so I am just going to do something a little weird and post it here.

I just want to say I am a huge fan of your sports takes and you almost always are the voice of reason. But your take on Edmonton is such boring childish tribalism. Whether it be insulting McDavid as the whiniest player in the league, or commenting that the building is dead and the fanbase is super quiet, or joking that they' be leaving in a few years. Whatever silly hyperbole it is, it's quiet a contrast to your usual voice of reason. As a born and bred Canucks fan who lives in Edmonton and has experienced what a crazy fanbase the Oilers have, it's kind of sad that someone so smart comes across so ill-informed just because they can't extract the us vs them homerism from their childhood.

Your 18th post in 10 years is to defend the Oilers? I stand with MS in this one, he is 100% correct. Houston Oilers has a nice ring to it.

 

[Bgav]

"Awww, that’s a real shame.

Hopefully that wonderful Edmonton fanbase can look back fondly on this near miss when their franchise moves to Houston in 5 years."

I can't reply to your post directly since the thread is closed, so I am just going to do something a little weird and post it here.

I just want to say I am a huge fan of your sports takes and you almost always are the voice of reason. But your take on Edmonton is such boring childish tribalism. Whether it be insulting McDavid as the whiniest player in the league, or commenting that the building is dead and the fanbase is super quiet, or joking that they' be leaving in a few years. Whatever silly hyperbole it is, it's quiet a contrast to your usual voice of reason. As a born and bred Canucks fan who lives in Edmonton and has experienced what a crazy fanbase the Oilers have, it's kind of sad that someone so smart comes across so ill-informed just because they can't extract the us vs them homerism from their childhood.

Oilers board is this way ---->

 

[Killer Orcas]

AFP released their updated contract extension projections for players needing a new deal after 2024-25.

Here's what they project for the following Canucks (Assuming a $92M salary cap):

• Brock Boeser - 7y x $9,012,933
• Nils Hoglander - 2y x $2,643,938
• Pius Suter - 4y x $3,441,260

Would be insanity giving Boeser that moving forward. They need to think with their head and not heart with him. His skating is not getting better and he's already 27. I love the player and person from what I see but you have think about the future as well.

 

[Vector]

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

hahaha Tocchet might actually kill him. I get that people want goal scorers, but this guy is not the solution to any of our problems.

I was being facetious anyway about the ex-Sabre-Cup-Winner thing.

 

[Jerry the great]

I was being facetious anyway about the ex-Sabre-Cup-Winner thing.

oh i know.

 

[Canucks LB]

Skinner for pretty cheap would be a fantastic option to play with petey, just need a big body on the other side

 

[ziploc]

Skinner for pretty cheap would be a fantastic option to play with petey, just need a big body on the other side

 

[Killer Orcas]

Pretty sure Skinner signed in Buffalo to be close to home. Guessing he'd give the Leafs a sweet deal to bring him home unless someone blew him away.

 

[Vector]

 

[Peen]

Pius Suter was previously projected high and got squeezed.

 

[StickShift]

RE: Boeser’s projected $9m cap hit

I know that a lot of the speculation has been about moving Mikheyev or (among some) Garland to clear cap space.

But I wonder if they would sell high on Boeser instead ahead of that big cap hit. Maybe sign Toffoli or another cheaper UFA winger as his replacement.

 

[Vector]

RE: Boeser’s projected $9m cap hit

I know that a lot of the speculation has been about moving Mikheyev or (among some) Garland to clear cap space.

But I wonder if they would sell high on Boeser instead ahead of that big cap hit. Maybe sign Toffoli or another cheaper UFA winger as his replacement.

When asked about trading Boeser, Rutherford's exact quote was the following.

Rutherford: No. No. No.

 

[StickShift]

When asked about trading Boeser, Rutherford's exact quote was the following.

Rutherford: No. No. No.

Eh. I know he said that. But they also said they had no intention of buying out OEL.

 

[LaVal]

Boeser's next cap hit is going to depend entirely on how well he performs in the upcoming season.

 

[valkynax]

"Awww, that’s a real shame.

Hopefully that wonderful Edmonton fanbase can look back fondly on this near miss when their franchise moves to Houston in 5 years."

I can't reply to your post directly since the thread is closed, so I am just going to do something a little weird and post it here.

I just want to say I am a huge fan of your sports takes and you almost always are the voice of reason. But your take on Edmonton is such boring childish tribalism. Whether it be insulting McDavid as the whiniest player in the league, or commenting that the building is dead and the fanbase is super quiet, or joking that they' be leaving in a few years. Whatever silly hyperbole it is, it's quiet a contrast to your usual voice of reason. As a born and bred Canucks fan who lives in Edmonton and has experienced what a crazy fanbase the Oilers have, it's kind of sad that someone so smart comes across so ill-informed just because they can't extract the us vs them homerism from their childhood.

If you are calling out the negative comments about Oilers from here, ok sure.

Would you also be a stalwart crusader of justice by calling out what the Oiler fans said about the Orcas? What they are saying about the Orcas is just as bad, if that's what you're looking for. Also, where exactly is your incorruptible voice of reason when Seravelli made his, to directly quote from your words, "boring childish tribalism" comments about Vancouver city? Surely a person with such superior moral highgrounds wouldn't stand for this, no?

 

[Peen]

You don’t trade Boeser. You ride that one out given his importance in the room and attempt to squeeze him into a heavy discount.

I don’t think the market will be upset if he’s demanding a 9x8 and they choose to move on.

But you have to be prepared to view him as an internal one year rental.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Boeser was one of our best players in the playoffs. I definitely wouldn't be trading him this off season. Not to mention his importance to the room.

I'm sure we will resign him at a nice discount.

 

[Bleach Clean]

RE: Boeser’s projected $9m cap hit

I know that a lot of the speculation has been about moving Mikheyev or (among some) Garland to clear cap space.

But I wonder if they would sell high on Boeser instead ahead of that big cap hit. Maybe sign Toffoli or another cheaper UFA winger as his replacement.

Boeser is a core player here, imo. He has proven to be cut above Garland (though some might cite possession metrics and EVPs as counterpoints).

If they get him on an $7.5-$8m/$8yr deal early into 2024-25, assuming he comes back with the same commitment as this year, it would be good work. The danger is that he excels in season and they are again faced with a Horvat-esque dilemma.

Edit: Toffoli is a good call out though, both have scoring ability this team desperately needs.

 

[StrictlyCommercial]

Boeser is so slow he might be a guy that ages gracefully a la Pavelski. Losing speed won't have much impact on his game.

Having said that, offer 8x$7.5M and hope he signs. Is he going to risk losing $60 million over $3 million? I doubt it.

 

[alternate]

Boeser is a core player here, imo. He has proven to be cut above Garland (though some might cite possession metrics and EVPs as counterpoints).

If they get him on an $7.5-$8m/$8yr deal early into 2024-25, assuming he comes back with the same commitment as this year, it would be good work. The danger is that he excels in season and they are again faced with a Horvat-esque dilemma.

Edit: Toffoli is a good call out though, both have scoring ability this team desperately needs.

I'm not sure I want to sign Boeser until he's 36. Can't see him being effective at that age.

I'm hoping for more of a 5-6 year extension, and hope the last few years will encourage Boeser to sign at a team friendly AAV. The team having another successful year in 24/25 will go a long way towards that happening.