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in a surprise move, mikheyev will be traded without a sweetner i hope. unless van has no choice.. trade their 2025 2nd? 2026. some gm will take mikheyev at full price. just like how allvin did with the anthony beuviller move.
It's gonna be painful but I rather us buy his ass out than trading him and lose more assets. We'll need those picks to boaster our team in the upcoming TDL.
But...7 mil dead cap...good god...
only 5 teams that have alot of cap space to take on his full contract. utah,detroit,chicago san jose and anahiem
I am guessing it would be easier for us to trade him away if we eat the same amount for the next 2 seasons vs buying him out and we should do that instead of buy out
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Pettersson. Block buster, biggest since ..... I almost think they have to in order to build for the future. They could make a trade that returns 4 NHL players maybe with picks too. Tocchets system is more towards defence than elegant skill.
Boeser, they got his value enhanced quite a bit. Can they sign two more 9 mil players? The market kind of states that is what a 40 goal scorer will be worth, that or more. Guentzel has never scored 100 pts and he is looking at 9 mil with only this years increased cap. Next year there will be that but the OEL buyout doubles for the Nux.
Certainly those two trades would be draft worthy.
Petersson to Columbus
Boeser to Carolina
Garland and Mikheyev to Utah.
The closer Draft day gets the more the pressure build up in the market. Worried about repeats of the good ol Benning days of bad signings because he knew a player. Or just waited to pick over the remainder/leftovers.
signing petterson to a big tickett contract in march and then trading him 4months later..?
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Made him much more valuable than trading a unsigned FA.
I am just watching what Carolina is doing. If they get some kind of deal with Necas or arbitration. That and other signings.
That mid season rumour might have had teeth but the speculation of player terms might have been a deterrent at the time.
He has 2 years left at 5 mil each, how much would we retain to make it worth while?
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Targeting Toffoli as the plan B option is right along the line of targeting Guentzel as the plan A option: It's chasing talent within an immediate window.
They've learned, I think, about overpaying for limited talent options like Mikheyev. I think his signing has indirectly impacted their thinking on Joshua, which is completely fair. The downside risk is apparent. (And was apparent with Mik too)
In saying that, they have to execute on July 1 for it to be worth forgoing the solid in-house option. It's a risk, but I'm ok with them taking that risk to try and get better. Looking out for names like Skinner, Teravainen, Toffoli and Tarasenko...
Looking forward to it.
They've learned, I think, about overpaying for limited talent options like Mikheyev. I think his signing has indirectly impacted their thinking on Joshua, which is completely fair. The downside risk is apparent. (And was apparent with Mik too)
In saying that, they have to execute on July 1 for it to be worth forgoing the solid in-house option. It's a risk, but I'm ok with them taking that risk to try and get better. Looking out for names like Skinner, Teravainen, Toffoli and Tarasenko...
Looking forward to it.
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After watching SCF I’m extremely excited for next season and what this group can do. Not easy but this group definitely has it in them to win a cup.
Obviously need to keep taking more steps forward, with disappointments and set backs likely along the way.
Obviously need to keep taking more steps forward, with disappointments and set backs likely along the way.
It has happened before. Plus the Canucks were reportedly shopping Miller after he signed an extension.
I’m not a fan of that though. Yes it’s a business but I think you lose trust (not that the team can’t recover from it). While I am all for constant evaluation, I also don’t like the idea of management changing their minds when it comes to a player they essentially have max money and term to.
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Most likely Mikheyev is bought out and we can't afford to be giving up high draft picks to dump him but there is one possible option I made a thread about a couple weeks ago but it was shut down for "trolling" for some inexplicable reason.
The sweetener would be Adian Celebrini to the Sharks. Perhaps they would value him enough sort of from a marketing aspect and would take Mikheyev back without us retaining.
Worth a try? Or will I get shut down again by Troll Stomper for proposing this outlandish idea?
The sweetener would be Adian Celebrini to the Sharks. Perhaps they would value him enough sort of from a marketing aspect and would take Mikheyev back without us retaining.
Worth a try? Or will I get shut down again by Troll Stomper for proposing this outlandish idea?
It's too quiet in Canuck-land. The calm before the storm? Maybe Allvin is working on a blockbuster.
Or maybe most of their UFA's end up walking; and they nibble around the edges with a few second-tier UFA signings.
You just never know......but it's not the track record of Trader Jim Rutherford and his GM Allvin to play it safe.
Or maybe most of their UFA's end up walking; and they nibble around the edges with a few second-tier UFA signings.
You just never know......but it's not the track record of Trader Jim Rutherford and his GM Allvin to play it safe.
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I was looking over the FA rules and this caught my eye.
Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA)
UFA's are free to sign with any team, and their previous team receives no compensation. UFA's can begin meeting and interviewing with all teams on the day after the Entry Draft (or June 25 at the latest). They cannot sign contracts with new teams until July 1 at 12pm Eastern.
I am sure this may have something to do with the lack of news.
It was yesterday that all FA's on July 1 could "talk" with other teams. So there might be FA's already have (not signed) contracts with other teams.
That would really stir the pot.
How is it that the entire sport has clammed up so much? Hardly a peep of anything doing, not even with the home teams of some of these FAs.
Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA)
UFA's are free to sign with any team, and their previous team receives no compensation. UFA's can begin meeting and interviewing with all teams on the day after the Entry Draft (or June 25 at the latest). They cannot sign contracts with new teams until July 1 at 12pm Eastern.
I am sure this may have something to do with the lack of news.
It was yesterday that all FA's on July 1 could "talk" with other teams. So there might be FA's already have (not signed) contracts with other teams.
That would really stir the pot.
How is it that the entire sport has clammed up so much? Hardly a peep of anything doing, not even with the home teams of some of these FAs.
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Whatever you are reading hasn't been updated. The official "negotiating period" that used to exist was eliminated in the CBA addendum in 2020.
Why eliminating the UFA negotiation window is a huge win for the players
With no early period to commence contract talks for five to seven days before free agency starts, GMs can't get their ducks in a row in advance. We're set to return to the era of frenzied Day-1 bidding wars.
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That being said—I am absolutely certain that managers and agents are blurring the line of tampering as much as they can. These deals don't just get signed as soon as the market opens without a lot of wink-winks and nudge-nudges along the way.
Here's an example of such a conversation from my screenplay Guentzel: First Contact:
GENERAL MANAGER'S OFFICE - DAY AFTER PLAYOFF ELIMINATION
The GM sits at his desk, papers and a laptop in front of him. He picks up the phone and dials. The phone rings a couple of times before the Agent answers.
GM
(leaning back in his chair)
I am really hoping to find a 40-goal scoring winger
to play with Pettersson this year. Someone who has
the pedigree of being a playoff performer.
AGENT
(on the other end of the line)
I know of a player like that who might be interested,
but I've heard he's looking for a long-term extension
over nine years.
The GM sits forward, thinking.
GM
I wonder if a player like that is looking to stay in
the eastern conference. He wouldn't just use a western
Canadian team for leverage, would he?
AGENT
No, I think that player would seriously consider
playing in Western Canada.
The third act is a real wild ride. A very disheveled Jim Benning (played by Gene Hackman) holds the room hostage and they almost sign Jason Zucker.
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Jeff Skinner being bought out by Buffalo. Canucks should immediately sign him since all ex-Sabres go on to win the Cup right away. Science.
If we don’t get Guentzel we should just chill and wait and not do shit for 3 days
StickShift
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AFP released their updated contract extension projections for players needing a new deal after 2024-25.
Here's what they project for the following Canucks (Assuming a $92M salary cap):
Here's what they project for the following Canucks (Assuming a $92M salary cap):
- Brock Boeser - 7y x $9,012,933
- Nils Hoglander - 2y x $2,643,938
- Pius Suter - 4y x $3,441,260
hahaha Tocchet might actually kill him. I get that people want goal scorers, but this guy is not the solution to any of our problems.
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They clearly have such a boner for Tanev. They already leaked last year that they were trying to trade for him even though they were going to miss the playoffs. They've leaked that they are trying to trade for Brandon Tanev as an incentive. Now they've leaked that they willing to sign him until he is 40 years old. Perhaps they should just offer him a future role as Sens GM now, too?
I think it's a bit foolish to hang your team's culture on being able to acquire one player who you perceive will fix your culture.
I love Chris Tanev as a player and he seems like a good dude. I do believe he was one of the few adults in the room during the Canucks dark ages. But, take a look at the tire fire that Calgary became— Tanev didn't do anything wrong in that locker-room — but his presence alone certainly didn't cure any of the dysfunction that went on there either. It feels foolish to believe that he would be some savior for the Senators culture.
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