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[Mr. Canucklehead]

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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[Jerry the great]

wtf are you talking about. That is just delusional. Maybe your down on Petterson but he is still a player capable of putting up over 100 points a year, plays Selke caliber defensively and has played with marginal NHLers to do it.

Brady ain’t close to as good.

there isn't a GM in the game that would take Pettersson over Brady. Tkachuk is probably the apex predator in the game with an ability to generate high danger chances at an insane rate. he finishes a lot of them too. There are like two guys who generate high danger chances at a comparable clip (Matthews and Hymen) and neither of them hold a candle to Brady's physicality. Playoff Brady will be an absolute nightmare to contain....it will be impossible.

 

[wonton15]

There definitely is a plan in place where none of Joshua/Zadorov come back. I’d say Zadorov still isn’t a foregone conclusion - the plan could be Guentzel/Dillon/another scorer like Duclair and additional depth.

 

[ziploc]

21 million?

9 to Guentzel
4.5 to Zadorov
3 to Tanev
3.5 to Joshua

3 to Tanev is probably too low, and Guentzel will probably require 9.5. Also need to re-sign Silovs. I think it is just a little too tight.

Could maybe see
9.5 Guentzel
4.5 Zad
3.25 Carrier
1 Silovs

 

[ProviesGhost]

Buyers on Joshua better have a Tocchet like coach.

 

[Svencouver]

There definitely is a plan in place where none of Joshua/Zadorov come back. I’d say Zadorov still isn’t a foregone conclusion - the plan could be Guentzel/Dillon/another scorer like Duclair and additional depth.

It's nice that in any case, they have plenty of options. Plans, back-up plans, and back-up plans for their back-up plans. Tremendously refreshing after the Benning years of no plans.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Friedman saying the Canucks re-engaged with Joshua’s camp as the Mikheyev trade went down.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Delete

 

[rea]

It's not really about propping up Petey, it's about complementing him.

Stupid to pay EP all that money and then continually give him scrubs to play with.

Yea for sure, I jsut don't think a 9m player is necessary to complement him.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

3 to Tanev is probably too low, and Guentzel will probably require 9.5. Also need to re-sign Silovs. I think it is just a little too tight.

Whose to say they wouldn't take less to Come here? And that factors in silovs at 900k

 

[TruGr1t]

Friedman saying the Canucks re-engaged with Joshua’s camp as the Mikheyev trade went down.

I wonder if that would make it less likely they sign Zadorov. You could maybe get Joshua+Dillon for a bit more than Zadorov alone.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

Zadorov, Tanev and Guentzel please. Dillon as well and we will be replacing Myers with added toughness and better defensively.

 

[ziploc]

Whose to say they wouldn't take less to Come here? And that factors in silovs at 900k

They might. Hard to bank on that, but we can sure hope for it.

 

[TruGr1t]

Now that we have all this cap space, I'd also like to add a right-shot centre to the shopping list, ideally to bump Blueger down to 4C again.

 

[Vector]

Friedman saying the Canucks re-engaged with Joshua’s camp as the Mikheyev trade went down.

If they can get Joshua and Zadorov to take a little less money that should leave enough for Guentzel, Silovs, and at least one more defenceman. Maybe two.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Joshua is much more of a priority than Zadorov.

Knowing Dillon is basically begging to come here with Hughes and Soucy already on the left side, I think it’s addressing upfront before addressing the backend.

 

[oceanchild]

there isn't a GM in the game that would take Pettersson over Brady. Tkachuk is probably the apex predator in the game with an ability to generate high danger chances at an insane rate. he finishes a lot of them too. There are like two guys who generate high danger chances at a comparable clip (Matthews and Hymen) and neither of them hold a candle to Brady's physicality. Playoff Brady will be an absolute nightmare to contain....it will be impossible.

Wingers don’t hold the same value as centers and EP is the better player in addition to playing the premium position.

 

[Peen]

Just do Joshua.

 

[valkynax]

Holland going huh

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Now that we have all this cap space, I'd also like to add a right-shot centre to the shopping list, ideally to bump Blueger down to 4C again.

Having the isles buyout JPG and signing him for cheap would be ideal.

I’d also inquire to Pinto in Ottawa.

 

[TruGr1t]

If they can get Joshua and Zadorov to take a little less money that should leave enough for Guentzel, Silovs, and at least one more defenceman. Maybe two.

What's a little less? Assuming they take $8M combined (so $3.5M + $4.5M), you add Guentzel at probably $9.5M, and you've spent $17.5M of your ~$20.8M. That's before you sign Myers, so you're basically looking for two right-side D; one for the second pair.

 

[Lindgren]

Every once in a while I have to pinch myself that we have competent management again. Getting Blueger to extend at a paycut, and then offloading Mikheyev’s contract hours later while giving up a 2nd three years from now is a really nice evening of work. Damn.

Excited to see what Allvin has in store next. These next few days are going to be pivotal for this franchise, methinks.

A post of yours from earlier today, referencing the previous management group, reminded me of the most bizarre exchange I've had on the board. i said something about a future GM needing to understand certain logical concepts, such as the sunk cost fallacy, or opportunity cost. A poster responded that opportunity cost was too complicated a factor to be accurately measured in hockey transactions.

The poster's writing style was kind of bombastic and pseud- intellectual. I speculated that he'd majored in English at an elite university. He hadn't posted much, and he wasn't around much longer ... Could I have been right?

And yes, I, too, pinch myself.

 

[oceanchild]

What's a little less? Assuming they take $8M combined (so $3.5M + $4.5M), you add Guentzel at probably $9.5M, and you've spent $17.5M of your ~$20.8M. That's before you sign Myers, so you're basically looking for two right-side D; one for the second pair.

Then you ship garland to make the numbers work. Maybe get a cheap RHD option back.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

A post of yours from earlier today, referencing the previous management group, reminded me of the most bizarre exchange I've had on the board. i said something about a future GM needing to understand certain logical concepts, such as the sunk cost fallacy, or opportunity cost. A poster responded that opportunity cost was too complicated a factor to be accurately measured in hockey transactions.

The poster's writing style was kind of bombastic and pseud- intellectual. I speculated that he'd majored in English at an elite university. He hadn't posted much, and he wasn't around much longer ... Could I have been right?

And yes, I, too, pinch myself.

 

[Vector]

What's a little less? Assuming they take $8M combined (so $3.5M + $4.5M), you add Guentzel at probably $9.5M, and you've spent $17.5M of your ~$20.8M. That's before you sign Myers, so you're basically looking for two right-side D; one for the second pair.

Ideally you get them for a combined 0.50m-1m less. Adds a bit of wiggle room for a slight upgrade on Juulsen.

It sounds like they want Juulsen as the 3rd pairing RD. I don’t agree with it but that’s been what they’ve said so far.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Now acquire HOF's Shea Weber from the Utes and they will have 8M more to play with.