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[Mr. Canucklehead]

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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[StickShift]

if he doesnt waive his ntc allvin should just waive him and loan him to the chicago wolves

In all seriousness, they might waive him like Goodrow was waived if he doesn’t approve. Unlikely anyone else claims him.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Still won't be anywhere near as bad as the Monahan trade for Calgary/Montreal.

They are SO fortunate that the pick wasn't their own unqualified 2025 draft choice. They could have ended up dealing like 6th overall to dump Monahan and it would have been hilarious.

 

[ziploc]

Embarrassing giving away 2nd’s mimicks Benning

Nonsense.

 

[Flik]

Would also be hilarious but very realistic if Mik bounces back, gets 50 points and they trade him with retention for another 2nd

It would be pretty funny, but he still needs to go.

 

[MS]

If the Mikheyev stuff is true it's necessary if slightly disappointing.

I see a lot of people in here going on and on about how it was a terrible mistake etc.

The braintrust identified that we needed to improve at pk, get faster, and get bigger and he was all of those things.

He also ruined his knee on like the 3rd shift of his first exhibition game against Calgary.

Looking at the cap, I can't see a way around dealing him either, but the guy we saw wasn't him remotely close to his best.

He will be a good player for them and they will retain and get a pretty good asset on the other end.

It can be both an OK signing at the time and 100% the right move to dump him now.

In some alternate universe Mikheyev put up 20-20-40 with 5 SHG for this team last year but unfortunately we never got to see the player he could have been because he blew his knee on his first f***ing shift of his first f***ing preseason game.

He absolutely has to be traded this offseason. You can't go back to Hughes and Miller and tell those guys you're serious about winning and taking further steps toward winning the Cup and then let Zadorov etc. leave while keeping the guy who had 1 goal in 60 games and was a healthy scratch.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Nonsense.

Lolol. Talk about not understanding the situation (agreeing with you and speaking about the post you're quoting).

 

[Vector]

 

[Vector]

Going to start a thread for this.

 

[StickShift]

At least they get a pick back.

 

[Wisp]

If they're spending a second to move Micky, they must think they have a good shot using the cap space on an impact player.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

It can be both an OK signing at the time and 100% the right move to dump him now.

In some alternate universe Mikheyev put up 20-20-40 with 5 SHG for this team last year but unfortunately we never got to see the player he could have been because he blew his knee on his first f***ing shift of his first f***ing preseason game.

He absolutely has to be traded this offseason. You can't go back to Hughes and Miller and tell those guys you're serious about winning and taking further steps toward winning the Cup and then let Zadorov etc. leave while keeping the guy who had 1 goal in 60 games and was a healthy scratch.

Yup. I wasn't disagreeing. I just think a lot of people here don't really understand the player he is and will be surprised by how good he is next season.

 

[Bgav]

were getting a 4th back, love it

 

[Flik]

HE COOKIN' Y'ALL
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[wonton15]

Allvin is COOKING

 

[Vector]

Thread is up!

 

[krutovsdonut]

interesting that dhaliwal knows hawks are on his ntc. seems like misltein all the way.

i think this will be like dickinson all over again. i do understand why they can't take the chance though.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Well the off season is definitely heating up. Hopefully Mik excepts his fate and excepts.

 

[MS]

Holy f*** that's a screaming good deal.

Yup. I wasn't disagreeing. I just think a lot of people here don't really understand the player he is and will be surprised by how good he is next season.

Absolutely. I think he'll probably bounce back and in a perfect world I would have liked for that to happen here. But with where the team was at it simply was not an option.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Holy f*** that's a screaming good deal.



Absolutely. I think he'll probably bounce back and in a perfect world I would have liked for that to happen here. But with where the team was at it simply was not an option.

Makes the Walman deal all the more hilarious unless there's some really dark off ice stuff going on there.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Anyone who is upset about losing a 2nd in this deal is insane.

 

[Bleach Clean]

It *might* be a career year but you're a hell of a lot better off banking on mid-20s guys trending upward with careers on cheap-ish contract than you are on breaking the bank for declining 50-point players.

Mikheyev doesn't have anything to do with anything because the guy blew out his knee before he played a game here. You can't evaluate it and we simply have no idea what would have happened if he was healthy. If that happens to any signing - Joshua, Toffoli, Guentzel, whoever - it's almost certainly going to turn out badly. And you can't use something like that as a reference point for future acquisitions.

Guys who score 40 ESP in their mid-20s continuing on as top-6 ES producers isn't some crazy unicorn thing. I'd suspect those players maintain their level of play more often than not.

If Tyler Toffoli gets term it's going to be a Loui Eriksson/David Backes special for whoever signs him. And it's absurd to compare it to Guentzel.

Guentzel and Toffoli are pure scorers. Guentzel is just better at it. What you're applying to one should apply to the other, just to a lesser degree.

Mikheyev lacked top6 talent before he blew out his knee.

You're not getting Joshua on a cheapish contract.

When you bring up a top upside unicorn like Burrows as a comparable for Joshua, it is far fetched.

Just curious, was Toffoli trending upward last year? How was Boeser trending last year, remember?

If you removed the players from the argument, I would be less comfortable spending big on a recent trend than I would a consistent trend line over many years. Your mileage clearly varies, from myself and the team (apparently).

 

[Vector]

Now trade Lindholm's rights and get a pick back.

 

[valkynax]

If they sign Guentzel, and the machinations to make it happen are effectively:

Mikheyev, Rights to Lafferty, and a 2nd​

for​

Guentzel​

Is that still a major ouch?

If we can for sure get Guentzle, sure no problem.

...

Hey give me a break, I'm barely recovering from Dimbophobia ok?!

 

[Nuckles]

Draft starts in 46 hours. Free agency in 4.5 days

Buckle up

 

[Hansen]

Yes Chef