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I think a lot of that is an instinctive reaction to the rising cap and lowering Canadian dollar. I don't think it has a lot to do with team performance.

The Aquilinis spend to the cap, but they otherwise operate the Canucks like they're $5 away from financial ruin.
I think we are also just going to see rising ticket prices for all events throughout our lifetimes. Population increase is far outpacing the number of shows and events for the population to attend, so we've got a fast increasing demand with a relatively stagnant supply. Prices will go up. And they will continue to go up.
 
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This team is so poorly constructed and we keep doing dumb things like trading our assets away or like this year not getting an additional 2nd for Boeser. That second rounder coming in is something we should be using to select a center so we always have something in the pipeline. Same thing with defence, and goalie. We should always have a supplementary group of players for the future. Especially considering we've had almost no winning in the last 15 years.

Of course like you said drafting a center now likely doesn't help us cover the stop gap plan but that's why smart franchises keep their picks and use them to build their prospect pool before the need arises.
I think they've done a reasonable job trying to balance the "now" and the "future"...I think this TDL was a bit of a miss for them, but they've done a great job of rebuilding the defense from the bottom to the top, Lekkerimaki seems like a good bet to be an impactful top 6 winger, and they have some good potential bottom 6 forwards...but there is a bit of a gap at center and with the talent level on the wings after JL. Our success last season has actually been a double edged sword, instead of continuing to build "brick by brick" they started pushing in chips (Zadorov/Lindholm trades)...hard to blame them, they were doing well and wanted to support the steps the team had taken, but its come back to haunt them now...they are trying to have their cake and eat it too. They want to get back to where they were last season and build off that success, but the team hasn't been able to gain any traction whatsoever and some of the chips that they used and lost last season have put them behind with their ability to continue to build "brick by brick"...its unfortunate that they let this TDL opportunity slip away but we'll see what they do this off-season, I think it's a make or break for them.
 
Boeser is a 25-30 goal guy on paper, he has 18 goals right now and who the f*** knows if he is actually going to get to even 25. So yeah he is basically replaceable if we get a 20 goal guy.

He's on pace for 24.1 goals. I don't know if he will get there, and I am not a big Boeser fan nor advocate keeping him, but that's pretty in line with his normal output (perhaps a bit loweR).
We are a 50/50 playoff team with Brock pacing towards like 20goals. You add a guy to replace him at that level of production and get like 1 or 2 more guys at 15goals, that's already more goals than what we have right now.
I'm just curious, but who are these goal scorers you want to add?
 
He's on pace for 24.1 goals. I don't know if he will get there, and I am not a big Boeser fan nor advocate keeping him, but that's pretty in line with his normal output (perhaps a bit loweR).

I'm just curious, but who are these goal scorers you want to add?
I mean, in order for him to get to 24 goals, he's going to need to score at a 40 goal pace for the remainder of the season no? or is my math horribly off.

I would prefer some short term solutions like Duchene, Donato, Granlund, Dadonov. Would be nice if we can get Ehlers.

edit: my math is horrible .. he'll need to be on a 25 goal pace to hit 24 goals. so yeah we'll see if he actually hits it.
 
And your rebuild plan for the future includes trading a 1st for a winger who turns 29 before the end of this season?
Yes. In my proposal the team actually gets younger and addresses 2 major concerns. a Young 2C. A RW.

Zell is my gift to you.
 
Yes. In my proposal the team actually gets younger and addresses 2 major concerns. a Young 2C. A RW.

Zell is my gift to you.
Seems counterintuitive, also is that pick unprotected? If so, yikes.

If it is protected, you're likely adding on top of that 1st, especially from a divisional rival down the highway.
 
I mean, in order for him to get to 24 goals, he's going to need to score at a 40 goal pace for the remainder of the season no? or is my math horribly off.

I would prefer some short term solutions like Duchene, Donato, Granlund, Dadonov. Would be nice if we can get Ehlers.

edit: my math is horrible .. he'll need to be on a 25 goal pace to hit 24 goals. so yeah we'll see if he actually hits it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the cap space available for next season does not include Boeser and Suter, right? So essentially we'll need to replace roughly 35-40 goals between the 2 of them just to stays the same. Therefore, adding 2 x 20 goals forwards doesn't really bring us ahead, unless they both are good playmakers that can elevate their linemates?

I also would prefer some short term solutions. Unfortunately with all the cap space and a lack of talent, I can see a scenario where GMs goes nuts on July 1 and the guys you listed either get massive AAV or very long term, or both. It would be a very bad July 1st for some teams. If we can't get Marner or Ehlers on July 1st, probably best to just shut off the phone and wait a couple weeks, see which player(s) is/are left without a contract and try to get something reasonable done with them. That would be my strategy (but could potentially backfire big time if ALL the UFAs are gone).
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the cap space available for next season does not include Boeser and Suter, right? So essentially we'll need to replace roughly 35-40 goals between the 2 of them just to stays the same. Therefore, adding 2 x 20 goals forwards doesn't really bring us ahead, unless they both are good playmakers that can elevate their linemates?

I also would prefer some short term solutions. Unfortunately with all the cap space and a lack of talent, I can see a scenario where GMs goes nuts on July 1 and the guys you listed either get massive AAV or very long term, or both. It would be a very bad July 1st for some teams. If we can't get Marner or Ehlers on July 1st, probably best to just shut off the phone and wait a couple weeks, see which player(s) is/are left without a contract and try to get something reasonable done with them. That would be my strategy (but could potentially backfire big time if ALL the UFAs are gone).
key point: Petey returning to form along with these additions.

If you assume Petey is going to play at the same level then yeah, we cooked.
 
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key point: Petey returning to form along with these additions.

If you assume Petey is going to play at the same level then yeah, we cooked.
Yup, that really is our only hope. If he returns to form then there's some hope.

Basically we need: Petey returns to form + management cooks over the next 12 months
 
I mean, in order for him to get to 24 goals, he's going to need to score at a 40 goal pace for the remainder of the season no? or is my math horribly off.

I would prefer some short term solutions like Duchene, Donato, Granlund, Dadonov. Would be nice if we can get Ehlers.

edit: my math is horrible .. he'll need to be on a 25 goal pace to hit 24 goals. so yeah we'll see if he actually hits it.
Here are AFP's projections (using worst 6 tax average take home pay):
1. Duchene $6.7 million;
2. Ehlers; $7.9 million
3. Granlund: $4.8 million
4. Donato: $2.5 million;
5. Dadonov: $2.4 million

I don't think you are getting Ehlers or Duchene. Perhaps Granlund, but you are at best just replacing Boeser, and at worst, he takes a nose dive production wise because he is in his mid thirties.

Donato is a flier. Seems like his stats are inflated because he's on a poor team. Doubt he maintains that production on the Canucks.

Dadonov is 35 years old and might not even hit 20 goals this year. Hard pass.
 
Here are AFP's projections (using worst 6 tax average take home pay):
1. Duchene $6.7 million;
2. Ehlers; $7.9 million
3. Granlund: $4.8 million
4. Donato: $2.5 million;
5. Dadonov: $2.4 million

I don't think you are getting Ehlers or Duchene. Perhaps Granlund, but you are at best just replacing Boeser, and at worst, he takes a nose dive production wise because he is in his mid thirties.

Donato is a flier. Seems like his stats are inflated because he's on a poor team. Doubt he maintains that production on the Canucks.

Dadonov is 35 years old and might not even hit 20 goals this year. Hard pass.
Gross.
 
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Here are AFP's projections (using worst 6 tax average take home pay):
1. Duchene $6.7 million;
2. Ehlers; $7.9 million
3. Granlund: $4.8 million
4. Donato: $2.5 million;
5. Dadonov: $2.4 million

I don't think you are getting Ehlers or Duchene. Perhaps Granlund, but you are at best just replacing Boeser, and at worst, he takes a nose dive production wise because he is in his mid thirties.

Donato is a flier. Seems like his stats are inflated because he's on a poor team. Doubt he maintains that production on the Canucks.

Dadonov is 35 years old and might not even hit 20 goals this year. Hard pass.
Trade away Hog and there is enough cap and roster space for Duchene, Granlund, Donato and Dadonov. It's fine for a short term upgrade but those would be my choices, I hope Allvin has better targets than me.

If we don't trade away Hog, we can still afford like 3 guys like Ganlund, Donato and Davonov.

Dadonov would be like a 1 year fill gap player that offers some speed, i said none of them are long term solutions.
 
my flight is delayed 3.5 hours so here's a summary of each team going into free agency. most cap space to least

the tl;dr is that there's like 3 teams with cap problems and they can still mostly keep their teams together. everyone else will either keep their team together or have a big pile of money to chase the few free agents out there

san jose 44.7m 15/23

key ufas: alex georgiev 2.9m / jan rutta 2m
key rfas: klim kostin 2m / shakhir mukhamadullin 0.9m

san jose are gonna have to throw money at someone just to reach the cap floor. even if they keep kostin and give mukhamadullin a big raise they're going to be like 15m under the floor

columbus 43.0m 15/23

key ufas: luke kunin 2.7m / sean kuraly 2.5m / ivan provorov 4.8m / dante fabbro 2.5m
key rfas: danill tarasov 1.5m

i think they'll keep provorov, fabbro and tarasov. maybe keep kuraly or kunin and go big game hunting for a winger or center. i think this is where boeser ends up. they also need to spend to get to the floor

anaheim 39.5m 15/23

key ufas: robby fabbri 4m / brock mcginn 2.8m
key rfas: mason mctavish 0.9m / lukas dostal 0.8m

they like to spend money on veterans so i can see them pursuing someone like benn or duchene with all their cap. mctavish' raise should get them to the floor though and they have a million guys pushing for roster spots so they don't really need to spend

calgary 37.1m 14/23

key ufas: dan vladar 2.2m
key rfas: morgan frost 2.1m / matt coronato 0.9m / connor zary 0.9m / kevin bahl 1m

i think they'll just reup their rfas, make a play to keep vladar and sit tight unless one of the top tier free agents shows interest

winnipeg 37.1m 15/23

key ufas: nikolaj ehlers 6m / alex iafallo 4m / brandon tanev 3.5m /
mason appleton 2.2m / neal pionk 5.9m
key rfas: gabriel vilardi 3.5m / dylan samberg 1.4m

this is the first team with actual cap problems except the problem is other teams have the cap space to sign their free agents. i think they'll hold onto appleton, vilardi and samberg and do everything they can to convince pionk to stay and lose ehlers and iafallo. tanev could go either way

carolina 37.0m 15/23

key ufas: taylor hall 6m / jack roslovic 2.8m / jesper fast 2.4m / dmitri orlov 7.8m / brent burns 5.3m
key rfas: ---

depends how they do in the playoffs. if they go deep i think they'll keep everyone except maybe burns (if he retires. i can't see him going anywhere else except maybe back to san jose). if they don't i can see them parting ways with nearly all these guys and throwing big money at marner or nelson. they'll probably sign a defender too. pionk or chychrun maybe?

chicago 33.0m 18/23

key ufas: ryan donato 2m / alec martinez 4m
key rfas: wyatt kaiser 0.9m

who knows. i think they resign donato and do very little else

new york (islanders) 28.9m 14/23

key ufas: kyle palmieri 5m
key rfas: maxim tsyplakov 0.9m / simon holmstrom 0.9m / noah dobson 4m / alex romanov 2.5m

palmieri is apparently already resigned? they'll just reup their rfas and then try to sign a forward i think. maybe nelson returns

boston 28.8m 11/23

key ufas: ---
key rfas: morgan geekie 2m / mason lohrei 0.9m

they need a whole new team. there's a lot of junk on their roster post deadline. no idea who they'll pursue but boston is a fairly desirable location so i think they'll land someone. maybe nelson?

philadelphia 27.5m 17/23

key ufas: rodrigo abols 0.8m
key rfas: noah cates 2.6m / cam york 1.6m

they'll throw the bag at abols obviously. another team losing no one important with money to spend. might be tough to convince anyone to take it though with torts still there

toronto 27.5m 16/23

key ufas: john tavares 11m / mitch marner 11m / jani hakanpaa 1.4m
key rfas: matt knies 0.9 / nick robertson 0.9m

tavares and marner resign probably. matt knies gets squeezed on his first non-elc contract. no one cares about nick robertson. if they let either tavares or marner walk they'll be in big on bennett and maybe ehlers. i can see them signing ekblad too if they end up with space

los angeles 25.9m 16/23

key ufas: andrei kuzmenko 2.7m / tanner jeannot 2.7m / vlad gavrikov 5.9m
key rfas: ---

los angeles are low key maybe the worst managed team in the league so i have no idea what they'll do. probably something idiotic like signing ekblad to a max term deal and then trading brandt clarke for logan stanley or something. i think there's a chance boeser ends up here too if he doesn't go to columbus. gavrikov stays unless he chases a mega deal

pittsburgh 25.6m 17/23

key ufas: ---
key rfas: ---

i guess maybe they will want to resign tomasino? other than that i have no idea. i think they overpay for whoever they sign though

buffalo 24.1m 15/23

key ufas: ---
key rfas: ryan mcleod 2.1m / jack quinn 0.9m / jj peterka 0.9m / bowen byram 4m

they have money to spend and badly need some veteran talent but who is gonna take it? no one

washington 23.1m 16/23

key ufas: andrew mangiapane 5.8m / lars eller 2.5m / jacob chychrun 4.6m
key rfas: ---

hey a team that might lose someone because of cap problems finally! they'll want to spend on a forward and might let chychrun walk as a result

utah 22.3m 19/23

key ufas: ---
key rfas: ---

other than bjugstad they're not losing anyone. they also have a million young players pushing for roster spots so i don't see them doing anything significant unless something falls into their laps

detroit 22.1m 17/23

key ufas: patrick kane 4m / jeff petry 2.3m
key rfas: jonatan berggren 0.9m

yzerman likes old guys but he also likes character guys. sorry duchene and benn, your princess is in another castle. maybe this is where nelson ends up though

seattle 21.8m 14/23

key ufas: ---
key rfas: kaapo kakko 2.4m

they have cap space and francis likes making bad free agent decisions. sounds like ekblad to me

minnesota 21.0m 17/23

key ufas: gustav nyquist 1.6m / jon merril 1.2 / marc andre fleury 2.5m
key rfas: marco rossi 0.9m

other than rossi everyone is locked up. they need a defender and some forward depth though so while i don't think any of the top guys will land here they will probably spend to the cap on mid range guys

florida 19.0m 19/23

key ufas: sam bennett 4.4m / aaron ekblad 7.5m
key rfas: mackie samoskevich 0.9m

they'll let ekblad walk and probably pursue gavrikov or provorov (russians loooooove south beach) to replace him. i think they'll reup bennett but zito is one of the best in the business and bennett is likely to get way overpaid if he goes to market so maybe they choose to let him walk?

ottawa 18.4m 13/23

key ufas: claude giroux 6.5m / travis hamonic 1.1m
key rfas: fabian zetterlund 1.5m

okay this team actually has cap problems. the good news is the players they're losing are almost all bottom of the roster and should be cheap to replace but they're not going to have the money to go after anyone significant. they probably just keep giroux and sign some depth guys

nashville 18.2m 20/23

key ufas: ---
key rfas: ---

i forgot about nashville when i accused los angeles of being the worst run team. my bad. this team has the money to do something stupid and they probably will. i have no prediction for what that will be

las vegas 16.7m 16/23

key ufas: reilly smith 1.9m / brandon saad 1.5m / victor olofsson 1m / tanner pearson 0.8m /
adin hill 4.9m / ilya samsonov 2.8m
key rfas: nic hague 2.3m

they'll resign adin hill and probably reilly smith. nic hague gets a nice raise too. they don't have the money to do anything else but they also don't really need to

new jersey 14.8m 18/23

key ufas: tomas tatar 1.8m / nathan bastian 1.4m
key rfas: luke hughes 0.9m

will luke hughes get more than his older brother quinn? yeah probably. won't that be hilarious? they're just gonna sign some depth guys other than that

edmonton 14.7m 17/23

key ufas: jeff skinner 3m / corey perry 1.1m / connor brown 1m / trent frederic 0.6m / john klingberg 1.8m
key rfas: evan bouchard 3.9m

finally a team that will need to make real choices. well not really. they obviously sign bouchard and then spend whatever is left over on minimum salary guys to fill out the roster

vancouver 14.0m 20/23

key ufas: brock boeser 6.7m / pius suter 1.6m / derek forbort 1.5m
key rfas: ---

i mean there's a whole thread discussing this

new york (rangers) 14.0m 14/23

key ufas: jonathon quick 1.3m
key rfas: will cuylle 0.8m / arthur kaliyev 0.8m / matt rempe 0.8m / jusse parssinen 0.8m /
k'andre miller 3.9m

after they resign miller, cuylle and kaliyev they won't have much left over. never say never where new york are concerned but i don't see them doing much and they have quite a few holes. maybe panarin or zibinejad get shipped out to one of the california teams to make space for new york to go after ehlers or reunite boeser with miller

montreal 11.4m 17/23

key ufas: christian dvorak 4.5m / joel armia 3.4m / david savard 3.5m
key rfas: jayden struble 0.8m / jakub dobes 0.8m

montreal actually have an additional 10m in cap space thanks to carey price so they can do pretty much whatever they want. maybe a vet forward addition like benn or they go after a defenseman to help out their young group?

tampa bay 9.1m 16/23

key ufas: yanni gourde 1.3m / nick perbix 1.2m
key rfas: ---

they'll reup gourde i think and then do the tampa thing of signing some guys you've never heard of who end up being key contributors somehow. perbix might price himself out though

st louis 9m 21/23

key ufas: radek faksa 2.4m
key rfas: ---

st louis about to have the boringest offseason of all time unless torey krug retires and even then it'll be very boring

colorado 8.7m 18/23

key ufas: brock nelson 3m / jonathan drouin 2.5m / ryan lindgren 2.3m / erik johnson 1m
key rfas: sam malinski 0.9m

finally -- FINALLY -- a team that will almost certainly lose significant talent (sorry jeff skinner) because of the cap. i think they figure out a way to keep drouin and then maybe if they can convince landeskog to retire they try to keep nelson. they also need to sign a dman or two though and it'll be really tight

dallas 5.3m 16/23

key ufas: jamie benn 9.5m / mikael granlund 5m / matt duchene 3m / evgenii dadanov 2.3m /
cody ceci 2.3m
key rfas: mavrik bourque 0.9m

things are bad in dallas but not as bad as it seems since tyler seguin's salary is included and he'll presumably be back to replace benn or duchene. they can't really keep anyone though except maybe duchene who might want to take a discount to stick around. they might even have to move someone to resign bourque
 
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Here are AFP's projections (using worst 6 tax average take home pay):
1. Duchene $6.7 million;
2. Ehlers; $7.9 million
3. Granlund: $4.8 million
4. Donato: $2.5 million;
5. Dadonov: $2.4 million

I don't think you are getting Ehlers or Duchene. Perhaps Granlund, but you are at best just replacing Boeser, and at worst, he takes a nose dive production wise because he is in his mid thirties.

Donato is a flier. Seems like his stats are inflated because he's on a poor team. Doubt he maintains that production on the Canucks.

Dadonov is 35 years old and might not even hit 20 goals this year. Hard pass.
Granlund is better than Boeser just because his contract should be shorter by default. A 3 year contract for Granlund is less risky than a 6 years contract for Brock, IMO. Granlund also is a good playmaker, can kill penalties, and is a good PP player (not net front like Brock, but he plays his role well). I would definitely sign Granlund to something like $5m x 2 if he is up for it, and willing to add a 3rd year if he really demands it.

Ehlers at $8m is good value with the cap increase, I would definitely offer him that cap hit. His injury history is scary but based on his play this year, doesn't seem like it hurts his current production.

Duchene at $6.7m is also good, but I'm not sure he will do as well away from Dallas. His time in Ottawa and Nashville was mostly pretty bad.

Not a big fan of Dadonov but if he wants to come cheap for very short term, then maybe? Although I rather gamble on Hog developing than Dadanov being able to produce with our forward group at a similar cap hit.

Hopefully we get one of these 3 (not Dadanov) at a cap hit similar to listed.
 

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