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Ernie said:
This is a direct contradiction to what Friedman said. Obviously Dhaliwal is running interference for Boeser's agent but the contract offers are probably true.

Makes you wonder whether they really intended to trade him or were just using the trade threat as a pressure point to get him to sign a new contract.
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It's probably not true, in my view, and was probably just taken out of context (i.e., just reporting bits of the PJ rumour). I have a hard time believing that Boeser was going to return more than Marchand, who has both historically outproduced Boeser and had more playoff success than Boeser, and who is also just currently out producing Boeser.
 
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The rumour that Canes offered a 1st for Boeser also aligns with the rumour that their offer was Kotkaniemi + 1st for Boeser + one of our top 3/5 prospects.

And if that was the case it wasnt just a first for Boeser
 
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Hansen said:
The rumour that Canes offered a 1st for Boeser also aligns with the rumour that their offer was Kotkaniemi + 1st for Boeser + one of our top 3/5 prospects.

And if that was the case it wasnt just a first for Boeser
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it would not surprise me at all if carolina offered a first straight up for boeser and vancouver countered trying to get kotkaniemi in the deal

they've shown they covet him before and carolina really have no reason to trade him. they don't need the cap space and they just traded drury so they don't have anyone on deck to replace him in the lineup. also vancouver has been very clear that they aren't interested in futures and want trades that fill the dreaded age gap
 
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Hodgy said:
It's probably not true, in my view, and was probably just taken out of context (i.e., just reporting bits of the PJ rumour). I have a hard time believing that Boeser was going to return more than Marchand, who has both historically outproduced Boeser and had more playoff success than Boeser, and who is also just currently out producing Boeser.
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We literally have reports after saying they asked for one of the top3 prospects
 
Nuckles said:
It's entirely possible the Canes originally offered just the 1st for Boeser, but the Canucks likely wanted a roster player (and centre) in return and it turned into KK+1st for Boeser+prospect.
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I think this is correct
 
I still firmly believe that mgmt would have traded Boeser for a 1st but only if they could flip it for another forward.

If a 1st was not offered until the final hour, they would not have time for another deal.

However, considering there was no contract extension in place nor certainty around whether a deal will get done in the future, they should have taken the 1st.

But they want to "remain competitive" even though they've stripped the same player of the A and continually throw shade his way when all he has done is be humble and loyal.
 
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Nuckles said:
It's entirely possible the Canes originally offered just the 1st for Boeser, but the Canucks likely wanted a roster player (and centre) in return and it turned into KK+1st for Boeser+prospect.
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Nucky said:
I think this is correct
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I think this is possible, but its pretty hard to square this with the fact that Stanley Cup winning Brad Marchand, whose historically been a much better player than Boeser, and who is currently having a better season that Boeser, would return less than Boeser. And this is coming from someone who would be super happy to be mad about this.

And I can't really see there being a trade and sign that would work for the historically cheap Carolina given Boeser's likely contract demants.
 
Hodgy said:
I think this is possible, but its pretty hard to square this with the fact that Stanley Cup winning Brad Marchand, whose historically been a much better player than Boeser, and who is currently having a better season that Boeser, would return less than Boeser. And this is coming from someone who would be super happy to be mad about this.

And I can't really see there being a trade and sign that would work for the historically cheap Carolina given Boeser's likely contract demants.
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Not comparable imo

Marchand is injured and Friedman said he basically got to choose his destination
 
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TruGr1t said:
What ... St. Louis is 7-1-2 in their last 10 GP, and Utah is 6-3-1 and 3 points back. Canucks have 2 games each left against Winnipeg and Las Vegas, and another one against Dallas. They also play Utah and St. Louis again. I dunno, I think they're probably long-shots for the playoffs at this point. In terms of strength of schedule, Canucks have the toughest remaining of the teams in the wildcard hunt. They are typically getting body slammed by superior opposition this season, especially teams at the top of the West.
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St Louis just lost their best defender for the season, Utah hasn’t concerned me once this year despite our hilarious inability to beat them. Calgary is going as far as Wolf will drag them so who tf knows there.

They have their work cut out for them, but whoever decides to pack it in on the year because they might not make it(cough Brock) can kick rocks, no time for players like that.

Those type of players flinch when the going gets tough and they won’t win a f***ing thing in this league - to echo Torts.
 
Vector said:
Yup, people are going to act like this is a new thing but it sounds like what Johnston reported and is inline with how the Hurricanes operate.
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How many times more do you think people will get stories wrong because they pick their news from a website that basically operates like a tabloid and don’t follow up on whatever crap sound bite was put together to be provocative?

I don’t mean to put this on journos alone, but it’s literally the worst f***ing place to try and get the information one needs to be well-informed. It’s like fire, a useful tool when used correctly. A misery if you can’t.
 
Hodgy said:
I think this is possible, but its pretty hard to square this with the fact that Stanley Cup winning Brad Marchand, whose historically been a much better player than Boeser, and who is currently having a better season that Boeser, would return less than Boeser.
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Marchand is injured and may never play another game this season and still got a conditional first. If he gets healthy enough all Florida has to do its win 2 rounds for it to become a 1st. He still fetches a 2nd of he never plays a game. It's a good trade for Boston considering the injury.
 
Reverend Mayhem said:
How many times more do you think people will get stories wrong because they pick their news from a website that basically operates like a tabloid and don’t follow up on whatever crap sound bite was put together to be provocative?

I don’t mean to put this on journos alone, but it’s literally the worst f***ing place to try and get the information one needs to be well-informed. It’s like fire, a useful tool when used correctly. A misery if you can’t.
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Infinite. A never ending cycle. We are at a constant disadvantage of never knowing the full story with sources metering out what they've heard and often not reconciling that with what others have heard.
 
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me2 said:
Marchand is injured and may never play another game this season and still got a conditional first. If he gets healthy enough all Florida has to do its win 2 rounds for it to become a 1st. He still fetches a 2nd of he never plays a game. It's a good trade for Boston considering the injury.
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i mean the condition is 50% of all playoff games .. so if he is really that f***ed up injury wise then it's a 2nd?
 
TruGr1t said:
Dreger on Sekeres and Price just echoed Friedman that a 1st was never offered for Boeser, in fact he went further and said by near the end of the deadline teams wouldn't offer a 2nd rounder for him. It's going to be VERY interesting to see what kind of contract Boeser gets in the summer.
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I still think he gets paid. GMs are like goldfish and go bananas on Jul 1.

Teams didn't want to give up anything because they either felt they had enough already or knew the Nucks were in tough.
 
TruGr1t said:
Dreger on Sekeres and Price just echoed Friedman that a 1st was never offered for Boeser, in fact he went further and said by near the end of the deadline teams wouldn't offer a 2nd rounder for him. It's going to be VERY interesting to see what kind of contract Boeser gets in the summer.
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Other teams are not that delusional and see what we have been seeing in Boeser..There is no way in hell he is even close to a 1st at the rate he is playing.. As it stands now he would probley be out played by others in the minors.
 
TruGr1t said:
Dreger on Sekeres and Price just echoed Friedman that a 1st was never offered for Boeser, in fact he went further and said by near the end of the deadline teams wouldn't offer a 2nd rounder for him. It's going to be VERY interesting to see what kind of contract Boeser gets in the summer.
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I label him in the do no sign. His best years are behind him. The second any contract with him is signed it's going to be a bad contract.
 
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