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[Agent007]

• More than one person has told him not to rule out the Canucks re-signing him
• Term is the issue and the Canucks’ number 1 concern
• Signed Miller and Lankine out of nowhere; when they want to sign someone, they get it done

Whenever Rick reports something like this it's usually a sign that something is going on in the background. For example Lankinen Rick was first to report they made an offer in January and things got quiet. It's almost as if Rick gets a hint they are talking but doesn't want to say they are talking.

If they want to keep Boeser it makes sense that this week they would give it one last push at getting a deal done.

 

[Hodgy]

I think it would be a monumental mistake to re-sign Boeser now that Miller is gone. The only reason to consider giving him a big contract was because they had good chemistry together.

Since the trade he has ZERO even strength points in 7 games, and has shown he just can't be played with EP40 this season.

Ya, I agree. It seems like a slam dunk to trade him.

 

[BWJM]

We finally have some cap space and the free agency market is lame this summer.

I love Brock Boeser but it’s time to move on. We can barely generate offense and having someone who’s slow doesn’t help. Look at someone like Chytil who can generate a chance off nothing but speed.

Pettersson, Boeser and Demko moving would make us feel like a brand new team… but how will we fill the top 6.

Really need Lek to take a big step.

 

[Hodgy]

I mean, this fanbase found their scapegoat. Time honoured tradition. No different than the Sedins and Luongo. It's Pettersson's fault the goalies have bad save percentages and Tocchet's team only averages 20 shots a game or the management thought they could replace Cole/Zadarov with Desharnais? How could Pettersson do this???

Listen dude, I already established I think your position is ridiculous, think little of you, and don't enjoy talking to you. Move it along.

We even chanted the scapegoat's name during the playoffs last year!

 

[theguardianII]

So you want to rebuild then?

Aren't they? What would look different or how much different? 15 pts?

No interest in re-signing Boeser.

I love Brock and he's a great person but they need to move on and recoup assets.

Brock Boeser playing with Aman and Raty. Worth 8+ million? Is he going to make them better? Is he making the line he plays on now better?

We simply cannot afford to sell low on Pettersson after they just pissed Miller away. If that's the move then they might as well sell everything and scorch it to the ground

What is low? The level he is playing at now? Is it better to keep him for 6 years and keep waiting for a rebound each year? That situation is more likely because that is what he has done for over a year now. The last part of last season and the playoff games CANNOT be ignored.

I'll say this again for the trade Boeser for draft picks clan too. Unless we get Rantanen Marner or Ehlers plus Bennett in as UFAs how the hell are you going to get 50-60 goals back and 2 forwards who can play 18-22minutes

This is with 40 coming back next year and being healthy and more mature.

Geez, this "mature" thing Allvin started. Must make Pettersson feel especially welcome. If they really think it is a juvenile issue how many teenagers respond well to being told they are childish?

The whole idea of those named being traded for, why? What for?

If they want to keep clawing to get better which is exactly what they have shown with the recent signings you simply have to sign Boeser.

How has Boeser been driving this team to winning? How is that working out?

If the Canucks are really clever they could have a 11.6 million dollar 50-60 point center playing with a 25 - 30 goal 9 million dollar player. Neither of which is driving a line or making those they play with better.

Sadly thing are what they are. Pandora's box has been opened.
Addition by subtraction is an outcome.

You know what is really sad and makes this market and fan base a laughing stock.
This is a team that has failed 7 out of 8 times and fans are frantic to hold on to the core players.

And fans of a team I used to call the Maple Laffs are advocating for their core, which has made the playoffs 8 years in a row, to be culled and improved because they aren't good enough. SAD

 

[VanillaCoke]

It's weird some ppl here seem to think Boeser sucks or something, maybe it goes back to the unreasonable hate he got a back when he was dealing with his immense grief.
But he was a very good player then, and still is today, half the league would give him an offer as a ufa, not 9M but surely a raise on his current salary.
As long as he signs for something decent the team is better with than without.

Also I wonder if it's the same ppl saying it'd be a disaster to sign him (laughable), are the same people who are whining about him possibly walking for nothing at seasons end... idk, but I'd bet there's some overlap.

 

[MS]

I'm fine just letting Boeser walk in the summer and re-investing that cap in a different winger.

After his smoking hot start to last season he's kind of just regressed back to a 55-60 point player again and given his skating I'm not sure he's a guy you want to invest 7-8 years in at age 28.

And as noted, his quality performances seem very linked to JT Miller.

 

[moiderer]

I mean, this fanbase found their scapegoat. Time honoured tradition. No different than the Sedins and Luongo. It's Pettersson's fault the goalies have bad save percentages and Tocchet's team only averages 20 shots a game or the management thought they could replace Cole/Zadarov with Desharnais? How could Pettersson do this???

Listen dude, I already established I think your position is ridiculous, think little of you, and don't enjoy talking to you. Move it along.

There are plenty of reasons the team has done poorly, many of which you stated. My only point is there is little reason or evidence left to defend Petey's performance or demeanor provided by himself or anyone connected to him.

Would not for a second put him on the same pedestal as the Sedins or Luongo who stepped up to the responsibility and publicity in situations and pressure much heavier than this.

But I agree, there's no point arguing further between us.

 

[Wisp]

There are plenty of reasons the team has done poorly, many of which you stated. My only point is there is little reason or evidence left to defend Petey's performance or demeanor provided by himself or anyone connected to him.

Would not for a second put him on the same pedestal as the Sedins or Luongo who stepped up to the responsibility and publicity in situations and pressure much heavier than this.

But I agree, there's no point arguing further between us.

Last note, there was a time people had no time for the Sedins either. Why I bring them up is to caution patience and not rashness. People got impatient with them too. There was team Messier in the 90s too, believe it or not, time has a way of changing how people see things. I'm not saying this player's season hasn't been disappointing or frustrating, but this is just a moment in time, of heightened frustration for everyone and he's a lightning rod. It too will pass. That's it from me.

 

[sting101]

Yes lest get rid of the other best player from last years team to trading our 1st plus roster player plus prospect for another teams expendable asset to replace him

Sounds like a great plan. Should help the PP and Hughes re signing as well

 

[Wisp]

Ya, the whole "this market is hard on Pettersson" narrative, has really gotten out of control. If anything, I am pretty shocked at how little criticism Pettersson has received given his contract and how poor he has played.

Huhemoji.jpg from me. This is uniquely bad. The market chatter on Pettersson is worse than the Luongo/Schneider controversy that tore that 2011 team a part. We're step away from someone chartering an airplane to fly a Trade Petterson banner across Still Creek.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Yes lest get rid of the other best player from last years team to trading our 1st plus roster player plus prospect for another teams expendable asset to replace him

Sounds like a great plan. Should help the PP and Hughes re signing as well

Exactly. To many people have tunnel vision and can't see the bigger picture. Ya Pete's struggling but he's a human being. We all have our ups and downs. I'd rather bank on a proven 100pt player for the future rather than an unwanted unproven prospect that would likely be the focus of a trade.

 

[MS]

Huhemoji.jpg from me. This is uniquely bad. The market chatter on Pettersson is worse than the Luongo/Schneider controversy that tore that 2011 team a part. We're step away from someone chartering an airplane to fly a Trade Petterson banner across Still Creek.

This market has been *astonishingly* soft on Pettersson relative to his extended terrible performance and massive salary. Both from a media and fan perspective.

If we had signed Pettersson as a UFA in 2023 and he had delivered the exact same level of play, it would be a bloodbath. Everyone has handled him with kid gloves and done nothing but make excuses for him.

But then he has a tantrum when he gets asked a soft question about his terrible production and certain fans are like 'oh, it's a witch hunt!'. Give me a break.

 

[sting101]

This fanbase has gone mad

And people are calling me dark?

Exactly. To many people have tunnel vision and can't see the bigger picture. Ya Pete's struggling but he's a human being. We all have our ups and downs. I'd rather bank on a proven 100pt player for the future rather than an unwanted unproven prospect that would likely be the focus of a trade.

HAHAHA i'm talking about Boeser

People are morons if they want to trade Pettresson now.

Unless they want to rebuild which is almost becoming a reality

 

[theguardianII]

It's weird some ppl here seem to think Boeser sucks or something, maybe it goes back to the unreasonable hate he got a back when he was dealing with his immense grief.
But he was a very good player then, and still is today, half the league would give him an offer as a ufa, not 9M but surely a raise on his current salary.
As long as he signs for something decent the team is better with than without.

Also I wonder if it's the same ppl saying it'd be a disaster to sign him (laughable), are the same people who are whining about him possibly walking for nothing at seasons end... idk, but I'd bet there's some overlap.

Don't you dare use immense grief as an excuse. You have no idea of immense grief if you think that.
Dissecting a player's play is not HATE.
Good player or not, he isn't a fit here anymore and hasn't the skill set to help line mates be better.

TWO years ago there were NO TEAMS that wanted him when he asked for a trade, twice and got permission for his agent to try to work one out, they couldn't. His scoring didn't improve until he took Horvat and Kuzmenko's spots on the PP. Canucks got rid of 70 goals scored for his 40.

Why is the team better with him?What is he adding besides a random goal here or there? Does he stick up for his line mates? Show he cares on the bench? Show any emotion?

Why a raise? The team isn't advancing anywhere? Are they better defensively than last year? No. Are they scoring more goals, is he? No. Is he imposing his will on other teams? No. Skating away for breakaways? No.
Seniority isn't a good reason for a raise.

Just because you have a thing for the player isn't enough, the name on the front of the jersey is the most important.

 

[sting101]

WE NEED 2 TOP6 PLAYERS WHO CAN PLAY 18-20 MINUTES "IF" 40 and 6 come back. It would be reasonable to expect Lekkerimaki to be one of them

If not why the F did we even bother trading for and signing M.Pettersson DOC and Lankinen

How many trades and changes do you think are reasonable to allow a team to be a team

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Gonna start calling EP Ron Burgundy because he is our Anchorman.

 

[Kryten]

Gonna start calling EP Ron Burgundy because he is our Anchorman.

Hes stuck in a glass case of emotion

 

[Wisp]

This market has been *astonishingly* soft on Pettersson relative to his extended terrible performance and massive salary. Both from a media and fan perspective.

If we had signed Pettersson as a UFA in 2023 and he had delivered the exact same level of play, it would be a bloodbath. Everyone has handled him with kid gloves and done nothing but make excuses for him.

But then he has a tantrum when he gets asked a soft question about his terrible production and certain fans are like 'oh, it's a witch hunt!'. Give me a break.

I honestly feel like I am being gaslit when you say this, that people are using the same mental gymnastics people go through to insist he's not injured to now insist he's not being criticised. Folks are constantly slagging him here on social media - he's been the topic of the day all season, the fact we do this day after day is indicative of no lol this is not soft.

If the discourse was actually soft, there'd be no discourse at all.

Elsewhere, this is uniquely toxic era of fan discourse even that has more than compensated and exceeded the diminishing voice of traditional media. If you're not in those spaces to see that toxicity, consider yourself lucky.

 

[moiderer]

Yes lest get rid of the other best player from last years team to trading our 1st plus roster player plus prospect for another teams expendable asset to replace him

Sounds like a great plan. Should help the PP and Hughes re signing as well

I think it's a fair concern how well he'll produce without Miller and how his footspeed will age into his 30s. If he's not a burner, then on a nightly basis his engine/effort needs to run hot or he needs to generate chances consistently like a Vanek/Guentzel. It's hard to say if the future Brock is closer to last year (who also went dead cold after potting 30 quickly) or this year where he's in line with DeBrusk who's earning and deserving his modest 5.5.

That said, you are right in that removing him puts us dangerously close to rebuild territory and I struggle to find an immediate, easy, or non-risky target to replace him for the remainder of the Hughes contract. I was bullish on Laine last offseason and Zegras is the more volatile option this year.

I am honestly stumped at what they do with Boeser but even if they keep him they definitely need another top 6 player on par or better than him.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

This fanbase has gone mad

And people are calling me dark?


HAHAHA i'm talking about Boeser

People are morons if they want to trade Pettresson now.

Unless they want to rebuild which is almost becoming a reality

Regardless both are true lol.

 

[Nick Lang]

It's crazy that Petey doesn't seem to have a good relationship with two Swedish legends and also the Swedish GM. You would think you can connect with your fellow countrymen the most.

Add that to the list of Petey defencies.

• Lack of accountability
• Lack of leadership
• Lack of maturity
• Lack of work ethic, conditioning
• Arrogant, selfish
• Makes $11.6M for another 7 years
• Mental yips
• Been at odds with everyone in the organization (management, coaches, players)

Trading him is the ONLY option. Is this somebody we want to embody the Canuck crest? Hell no. He can only excel where the leadership room is steady and the spotlight isn't too big. That won't be in Vancouver.

This seems a little overboard. Where is this Sedin feud stuff coming from ... it sounds a little HF manufactured like some of the other stuff on the list.

Sounds like the worst player in the history of the game. I think some folks are way to close to this and could maybe take a step back.

Also, if all of this is accurate no one is trading for him. We should buy him out or just trade everyone else and rebuild.

 

[sting101]

I think it's a fair concern how well he'll produce without Miller and how his footspeed will age into his 30s. If he's not a burner, then on a nightly basis his engine/effort needs to run hot or he needs to generate chances consistently like a Vanek/Guentzel. It's hard to say if the future Brock is closer to last year (who also went dead cold after potting 30 quickly) or this year where he's in line with DeBrusk who's earning and deserving his modest 5.5.

That said, you are right in that removing him puts us dangerously close to rebuild territory and I struggle to find an immediate, easy, or non-risky target to replace him for the remainder of the Hughes contract. I was bullish on Laine last offseason and Zegras is the more volatile option this year.

I am honestly stumped at what they do with Boeser but even if they keep him they definitely need another top 6 player on par or better than him.

agree completely and ive agonized and tried to think of a hundred different options. At the end of the day the pain we get in long term contract risk is less than giving up the precious little assets we have to replace him and further disrupting the fragmented and fragile core we have left.

There is a reason teams pay for production. Because if you dont you get to watch Teddy Blueger Nils Hoglander and Drew O'Connor chop the puck to pieces every night

Sure in a fantasy land where we trade Boeser for Cozens and then sign Rantanen im all for it. Don't think it's realistic to go into an off season where you need 3 top6 players and think you will come away like Jim Benning wondering why we ran out of suitors and time for all the shit deals we were offering other teams

 

[MS]

I honestly feel like I am being gaslit when you say this, that people are using the same mental gymnastics people go through to insist he's not injured to now insist he's not being criticised. Folks are constantly slagging him here on social media - he's been the topic of the day all season, the fact we do this day after day is indicative of no lol this is not soft.

Elsewhere, this is uniquely toxic era of fan discourse even that has more than compensated and exceeded the diminishing voice of traditional media. If you're not in those spaces to see that toxicity, consider yourself lucky.

He doesn't get booed. There are no negative articles about his play. The media hand him nothing but softball questions. By and large the fans have been astonishingly supportive relative to what you normally see when a highly paid athlete is performing this terribly. The fans made a concerted effort to chant his name in the playoffs to 'pick him up', FFS.

Also, the 'mental gymnastics' that people are going through to come up with the conclusion that Pettersson is not seriously injured ... is that both the team and the player have said he's not seriously injured. Crazy stuff.

 

[theguardianII]

Pettersson for Rantenen as rental might be a nice out for Canuck management.