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[LemonSauceD]

Columbus is probably a perfect fit for Pettersson. Small market no pressure, lots of talented wingers, a 1 dman that he can leech PP points off of, and a strong future supporting cast down the middle with Monahan/Fantilli and Lindstrom.

If you can get 2 of Sillinger, Voronkov, Del Bel Belluz, or Chinakov, that’s something I’d do in a heartbeat. Fantilli, KJ, Lindstrom, Marchenko (obviously) are all untouchable.

Columbus has a ton of pieces we should be looking at.

 

[wonton15]

We better not give Boeser 7-8 years.

 

[sting101]

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[moiderer]

"The org wouldn't let him play injured," is the dumbest argument Petey's critics make day after day and shows you don't pay attention to how this org handles injuries. Don't talk to me when you obviously don't know what the eff you're talking about.

And the reason I mentioned ALL the other forwards is because they only have one line producing goals right now. Petey's. The salary argument is bunk when the whole team is only scoring 1 goal a game. I don't need every forward to score every game, but your second, third, and fourth lines doing zero in two games is more indicative to the Canucks problems now than EP40.

No one knows the details abut his injury. It's the thing that makes the least sense in this whole thing and deserves the most scrutiny. His agent says he had a tough rehab in the summer (fair but doesn't describe his health now) while Dhaliwal says everyone tells him he's not injured. It's valid to be skeptical when any one who should be defending or affirming it isn't. Just assuming the org is happy sewering their top forward carte blanche wirhout nuance or something there is willfully overly hopeful.

And this isn't about the current stretch of games. Take any of the numerous slumps over this season and there's one guy who's a constant at the top of the blame game. It's just boiled over because now he's wearing an A in the softest media era and can't even be publicly professional about everything.

 

[M2Beezy]

My only concern with trading Pettersson is I really like having three Petterssons and two Elias Petterssons

This isnt fair

 

[Kryten]

Petey wasnt great but wasnt completey useless lastnight. He was flying to start, had some zone entries, made some plays etc. If he did score on that breakaway the mood would be quite different today. I was glad to see him mad on the bench afterwards, thats a step up from him staring emotionless

 

[sting101]

Wait i thought the mess was cleared up now that Miller is gone?

 

[Vector]

• More than one person has told him not to rule out the Canucks re-signing him

• Term is the issue and the Canucks’ number 1 concern
• Signed Miller and Lankine out of nowhere; when they want to sign someone, they get it done

 

[racerjoe]

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Yup trade his ass.

Is this the quote everyone is upset about?

We say worse about the media here on these boards. What a nothing burger.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Columbus is probably a perfect fit for Pettersson. Small market no pressure, lots of talented wingers, a 1 dman that he can leech PP points off of, and a strong future supporting cast down the middle with Monahan/Fantilli and Lindstrom.

If you can get 2 of Sillinger, Voronkov, Del Bel Belluz, or Chinakov, that’s something I’d do in a heartbeat. Fantilli, KJ, Lindstrom, Marchenko (obviously) are all untouchable.

Columbus has a ton of pieces we should be looking at.

From our viewpoint, yes...Columbus has the pieces. From their POV, the risk of taking on #40's contract isn't worth it right now. They got a good young forward group and they are best served sticking to their rebuild.

 

[Kryten]

I do not want to keep Boeser though. The guy is a nice complimentary piece to have, a second line pp specialist. No interest in keeping him for what he wants on the back half of his career

 

[sting101]

Petey wasnt great but wasnt completey useless lastnight. He was flying to start, had some zone entries, made some plays etc. If he did score on that breakaway the mood would be quite different today. I was glad to see him mad on the bench afterwards, thats a step up from him staring emotionless

Agree with this. For the first time in a long time saw some glimpses of the player that got that big contract

Cant help but laugh at the fact had that been Miller slamming the door a certain segment of this fanbase would have taken shots at him. Now it's a stepping off point for "hey look he has some emotion and looks like he cares"

I do not want to keep Boeser though. The guy is a nice complimentary piece to have, a second line pp specialist. No interest in keeping him for what he wants on the back half of his career

So you want to rebuild then?

 

[Kryten]

Agree with this. For the first time in a long time saw some glimpses of the player that got that big contract

Cant help but laugh at the fact had that been Miller slamming the door a certain segment of this fanbase would have taken shots at him. Now it's a stepping off point for "hey look he has some emotion and looks like he cares"


So you want to rebuild then?

No I want to reallocate the cap space to faster stronger players

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

No interest in re-signing Boeser.

I love Brock and he's a great person but they need to move on and recoup assets.

 

[Flik]

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Yup trade his ass.

Good grief, what a primadonna. Our media treats the team with such kid gloves and this punk still can't handle it.

I don't really care what kind of potential Petey has, his attitude has been straight garbage for a while now, and the way both he and Miller allowed themselves to become bigger than the team makes me want them both gone forever.

Petey can gtfo, I'm so tired of the drama, man.

Life of a Canucks fan eh? Last year..... to this.

Oh well.

 

[Wisp]

Wait i thought the mess was cleared up now that Miller is gone?

Taking season long bubbling emotion and frustration out... It's objectively better than it was post-trade. And Petey has been trending up, despite the naysayers. Team largely done well without Hughes which was unthinkable before.

If folks were expecting a light switch, or hoping, well I guess I was hoping for that, but that was naive

 

[sting101]

We simply cannot afford to sell low on Pettersson after they just pissed Miller away. If that's the move then they might as well sell everything and scorch it to the ground

I'll say this again for the trade Boeser for draft picks clan too. Unless we get Rantanen Marner or Ehlers plus Bennett in as UFAs how the hell are you going to get 50-60 goals back and 2 forwards who can play 18-22minutes

This is with 40 coming back next year and being healthy and more mature.

If they want to keep clawing to get better which is exactly what they have shown with the recent signings you simply have to sign Boeser.

No I want to reallocate the cap space to faster stronger players

Give me a realistic template then?

 

[sting101]

No interest in re-signing Boeser.

I love Brock and he's a great person but they need to move on and recoup assets.

What's the plan then for your top6 bub

 

[sensodyne17]

Columbus is probably a perfect fit for Pettersson. Small market no pressure, lots of talented wingers, a 1 dman that he can leech PP points off of, and a strong future supporting cast down the middle with Monahan/Fantilli and Lindstrom.

If you can get 2 of Sillinger, Voronkov, Del Bel Belluz, or Chinakov, that’s something I’d do in a heartbeat. Fantilli, KJ, Lindstrom, Marchenko (obviously) are all untouchable.

Columbus has a ton of pieces we should be looking at.

Also got a bunch of picks for Jiricek.

They would have to send some salary back if I had to guess. I would be open to taking Severson retained to $5M to increase the trade package. He's wasting away on their third pairing making $6M. They are probably keeping Provorov and re-signing Fabbro. Severson would be a massive upgrade over Mancini/Juulsen and provides puck-moving/offensive ability. Willander can cook in Abbotsford and come into replace Myers in 2026-2027 when his NMC becomes a NTC. Or we can even trade him. Taking back Severson might be able to get us an extra first or so.

1st + Lindstrom + Sillinger + Severson + some other picks/depth pieces for EP40. We could even throw them Hoglander.

Combine with assets we get from trading Suter, Boeser, Soucy, Forbort and maybe others.

Cash in all those assets to get top six forwards in the offseason and we might be cooking something up.

Hughes-Hronek
MP-Severson
DPetey-Myers
Mancini

Lankinen
Demko

~$39M for this back-end + goalies is actually pretty good. We would then have ~$50M to spend on forwards (after dead cap) + a bunch of assets accumulated from these series of trades. We could end up something like this

DeBrusk-Kyrou-Ehlers
Sillinger-Norris-Lekkerimaki
Joshua-Chytil-Garland -
DOC-Blueger-Sherwood

 

[Kryten]

We simply cannot afford to sell low on Pettersson after they just pissed Miller away. If that's the move then they might as well sell everything and scorch it to the ground

I'll say this again for the trade Boeser for draft picks clan too. Unless we get Rantanen Marner or Ehlers plus Bennett in as UFAs how the hell are you going to get 50-60 goals back and 2 forwards who can play 18-22minutes

This is with 40 coming back next year and being healthy and more mature.

If they want to keep clawing to get better which is exactly what they have shown with the recent signings you simply have to sign Boeser.


Give me a realistic template then?

Trading Boeser for picks and trading those picks at the draft isnt a bad idea. Trading Boeser in a hockey trade is fine too. Trading Boeser for picks and using those picks in the hope of having something in 3 years doesnt line up with our team, yes

 

[ephmrl]

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Yup trade his ass.

Actually thought he played relatively well last night, and showed the most speed we’ve seen from him in a calendar year, but these sorts of media responses are immature garbage. Take some accountability and quit this prickly attitude he has with the media. The media in this market is butter soft, and has barely made him answer for the fact that he’s making 11.6m and might not even break 50 points on the season.

The Sedins are some of the nicest people I’ve ever met, and by far the most down to earth athletes i’ve spoken to. If Pettersson doesn’t have a good relationship with them then there’s something seriously, seriously wrong with his personality.

 

[Canucker]

Personally I'd prefer to keep Boeser IF he signs a team friendly deal on term and dollars...otherwise that money could be better spent elsewhere.

Regarding EP, I'm not sure what to believe regarding his relationship with the team in general...he has such an awkward personality its really hard to know what he's like to deal with on a day-to-day basis. Thats why I'm willing to trust management with deciding EP's fate with the team...they deal with him on the daily so they know if he's a PITA or just misunderstood. And to all the people who think they'd be selling him for pennies on the dollar right now, just wait until his NMC kicks in and decides he wants to be traded somewhere else and has control over the situation. That has the potential to be really ugly.

 

[Nuckles]

I think it would be a monumental mistake to re-sign Boeser now that Miller is gone. The only reason to consider giving him a big contract was because they had good chemistry together.

Since the trade he has ZERO even strength points in 7 games, and has shown he just can't be played with EP40 this season.

 

[Wisp]

..Take any of the numerous slumps over this season and there's one guy who's a constant at the top of the blame game

I mean, this fanbase found their scapegoat. Time honoured tradition. No different than the Sedins and Luongo. It's Pettersson's fault the goalies have bad save percentages and Tocchet's team only averages 20 shots a game or the management thought they could replace Cole/Zadarov with Desharnais? How could Pettersson do this???

Listen dude, I already established I think your position is ridiculous, think little of you, and don't enjoy talking to you. Move it along.

 

[Hodgy]

i'm very close to checking out on this team. the hockey isn't entertaining and the management group hasn't shown any kind of ability to put together a coherent plan to contend. they're just scrambling fixing one problem by creating a new one over and over

I am in this until I die. It would be nice if the organization would take a long view, but we all know that's not going to happen with the current owner. So, you are right, they will just continue to scramble to fix problems as they come up because they don't have the power to make significant changes to their long term.

This has been my argument for a while. Either Petey is a 1C or they have no chance of being a true contender. They have to bet on him recovering.

I guess there is a couple different things, what the Canucks should do assuming that management has the autonomy to change their long term plan (i.e., rebuild), and what they should do assuming they don't have that autonomy. With that latter, you really have to balance Petey's potentially refinding his game against being stuck with an albatross contract for the next 7 years half of which you'd expect the team to be on the up tick. So I think its more nuanced than you are letting on. But if its the former, then I tend to agree, although I could also see management not being patient enough and essentially doing a similar Miller trade.

Brass sounds like they've had it with him though. They're gonna pull of the BUF end of the Eichel trade and get back a bunch of B-tier assets, basically dooming the team to mushy-middle mediocrity for the medium term.

Again, its not going to be like the Eichel trade in that Pettersson actually really sucks right now, for whatever reason, whereas Eichel never sucked like this. And plus, while injuries seem to be relevant in both, there really is very little comparison between Pettersson's relatively minor / nagging injury, or whatever you want to call it, and Eichel wanted to do a surgery that, as far as I know, had never been done for a hockey player. But I do accept that lack of patience, generally, could be a similarity between the two.

The guy simply has no idea how soft he has it here compared to being in Montreal or Toronto or NY or Philly. He'd be getting eviscerated by fans and media on a daily basis in those markets for a calendar year of this level of play for that salary.

I mean, hell, even Dubois in a 'non-hockey market' in LA last year was taking it far worse than Pettersson ever has here.

Ya, the whole "this market is hard on Pettersson" narrative, has really gotten out of control. If anything, I am pretty shocked at how little criticism Pettersson has received given his contract and how poor he has played.