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[vancityluongo]

I can see a Boeser for Bennett swap being something both teams would entertain. Panthers have a lot of players that can play centre. They are at the same impasse with Bennett as the Canucks seem to be with Boeser.

would LOVE that as a double sign and trade

said it yesterday, i think bennett is coming back to canada. it's us, the oilers or leafs.

 

[Mudshark50]

Pretty much every team with the cap space would prioritize him. He is the best player on the market.

Idk if Quinn is much of a draw to him.

He likely would rather go to a real contender, better weather, lower taxes, and less media/fan scrutiny. VAN offers none of that.

The Leafs will have cap space (31M) to sign Marner. I haven't heard that relationship has soured to the point he would not re-sign there, but I don't follow the Leafs that closely. Is he really going to sign elsewhere?

Fla doesn't have a ton of cap space and have Ekblad and Bennet to sign.

TBL might be able to sign him, but they've only got $14M to play with next year.

I think we would try to target a centre in FA, but Marner is certainly an exciting offensive talent.

Any chance we see a Boeser for Bennet move (per Halford/Brough rumour this AM)? We should have the space to sign Bennet.

 

[bossram]

The Leafs will have cap space (31M) to sign Marner. I haven't heard that relationship has soured to the point he would not re-sign there, but I don't follow the Leafs that closely. Is he really going to sign elsewhere?

Fla doesn't have a ton of cap space and have Ekblad and Bennet to sign.

TBL might be able to sign him, but they've only got $14M to play with next year.

I think we would try to target a centre in FA, but Marner is certainly an exciting offensive talent.

Any chance we see a Boeser for Bennet move (per Halford/Brough rumour this AM)? We should have the space to sign Bennet.

Florida is signalling they're going to let go of Ekblad and Bennett.

Idk what Marner's situation with the Leafs looks like.

Carolina, if they don't lock up Rantanen, will certainly be making offers.

Utah's owner wants to make a splash.

WSH's cap sheet is pretty clean for next season.

Marner will have options.

 

[xtr3m]

What do you need?

The doneness of Boeser.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Capwages predicting $6.5M/yr for 6yrs for Bennett in FA:

That's likely too low given they predicted around $3.4M/yr for Lankin.

But I could see mgmt wanting to make a Boeser for Bennett swap to safeguard against EP.

Plus give flexibility to potentially make an EP trade.

 

[aregora]

Tocchet just spent the last week and a half around Bennett with Team Canada. I could see Allvin asking for his input based on the conversations they will inevitably have had in Montreal/Boston.

 

[sting101]

Why would anyone want to hitch their wagon to this mess

Bennett is not coming here

 

[Vector]

Demko’s Future

• Can’t sign Demko long-term due to his injury history
• Is expected to practice in 2 weeks
• Has 4 injuries in less than a year
• Doesn’t know what the Canucks will do with him now
• Will probably hear his name pop-up in trade rumours
• The Hurricanes inquired about Demko; the Canucks didn’t bring him up to them
• Getting soft tissue injuries
• There are people that will not write-off Demko

Hughes

• Injury and the travel prevented Hughes from attending the Canada vs USA game
• Americans weren’t happy that he wasn’t allowed to go
• Still not 100% but not guaranteed he’ll be cleared to play on Saturday
• Too much for him to play in the 4 Nations tournament
• Not hearing that he’s mad at the Canucks for not letting him play
• Spent a lot of time with his agent over the weekend before the 4 Nations tournament deciding whether he should go or not; his agent told Dhaliwal that the Canucks allowed Hughes to make the decision

Pettersson

• No one is telling Dhaliwal he’s hurt; Canucks wouldn’t send an injured player and Swede’s wouldn’t have accepted him if he was hurt
• If he’s injured, the Canucks would sit him
• Canucks will have to address the injury rumour at some point
• There are guys on twitter who’s 9-5 job is to protect Pettersson
• Canucks are not nearly as strong at the centre ice position as they were

Suter

• His agent talked to the Canucks about an extension a couple of weeks ago; talks were brief and general
• Likes playing at Vancouver but is looking for a raise
• Thinks the Canucks might take a crack at re-signing him

 

[Quinning]

Pass on Suter. He'll cost too much and we can replace him with someone on the farm team.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Dang rip demko & knee tendinitis

 

[krutovsdonut]

sam bennett is a very physical player about to turn 29 who has never quite had the hockey iq and skills to live up to his draft spot and has a lot of mileage over the last two years. he has not played 82 games since 2017-18. he's also trending for a career year in points while being -12 on a team leading its division with a +27 goal differential.

he seems like a textbook example of a guy likely to break down and regress quickly as he enters his 30s.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

sam bennett is a very physical player about to turn 29 who has never quite had the hockey iq and skills to live up to his draft spot and has a lot of mileage over the last two years. he has not played 82 games since 2017-18. he's also trending for a career year in points while being -12 on a team leading its division with a +27 goal differential.

he seems like a textbook example of a guy likely to break down and regress quickly as he enters his 30s.

And he's bald.

See what being bald has done to EP.

 

[Kickassguy]

Pass on Suter. He'll cost too much and we can replace him with someone on the farm team.

I don't hate the idea of the Canucks trying to re-sign him, but only on their own terms. If they throw him 2-3 years ahead of free agency at a small to moderate raise on his current hit, that's still pretty good value, and given his past experience with free agency, I don't think Suter's going to be inclined to play hardball.

 

[Canucker]

Pettersson

• No one is telling Dhaliwal he’s hurt; Canucks wouldn’t send an injured player and Swede’s wouldn’t have accepted him if he was hurt
• If he’s injured, the Canucks would sit him
• Canucks will have to address the injury rumour at some point
• There are guys on twitter who’s 9-5 job is to protect Pettersson
• Canucks are not nearly as strong at the centre ice position as they were

I think they spend time here too. lol

 

[Vector]

I think they spend time here too. lol

I had a good laugh at his comments.

 

[credulous]

i don't get the attraction of bennett. he's not big, he's not fast, he's not physical, he's not good defensively and he doesn't produce. he's a complimentary player. the canucks need quality not more quantity

 

[ephmrl]

Why would anyone want to hitch their wagon to this mess

Bennett is not coming here

what mess are you referring to?

In a season where pretty much everything has gone wrong, they’re still sitting in a playoff spot and have one of the best players in the world on the team. I don’t think there’s any player out there looking at Vancouver as a bad situation they wouldn’t want to be a part of.

 

[Vector]

i don't get the attraction of bennett. he's not big, he's not fast, he's not physical, he's not good defensively and he doesn't produce. he's a complimentary player. the canucks need quality not more quantity

While I actually mostly agree with you, Bennett would be second on the Canucks in hits. Saying he’s not physical is not accurate.

While he doesn’t have high end speed, he ranks in the 80th percentile for bursts over 20mph which means he’s constantly moving his feet.

He’s definitely a complimentary 2nd line centre and I really don’t think I’ll like his next contract.

 

[supercanuck]

Pettersson

• No one is telling Dhaliwal he’s hurt; Canucks wouldn’t send an injured player and Swede’s wouldn’t have accepted him if he was hurt
• If he’s injured, the Canucks would sit him
• Canucks will have to address the injury rumour at some point
• There are guys on twitter who’s 9-5 job is to protect Pettersson
• Canucks are not nearly as strong at the centre ice position as they were

The opposite is true as well. Just look at HF. It's Twitter where everything is extreme! Such a weird point for them to bring up.

 

[supercanuck]

While I actually mostly agree with you, Bennett would be second on the Canucks in hits. Saying he’s not physical is not accurate.

While he doesn’t have high end speed, he ranks in the 80th percentile for bursts over 20mph which means he’s constantly moving his feet.

He’s definitely a complimentary 2nd line centre and I really don’t think I’ll like his next contract.

I think Toronto will be all over him with Tavares being UFA. He's the kind of player they need.

 

[sting101]

what mess are you referring to?

In a season where pretty much everything has gone wrong, they’re still sitting in a playoff spot and have one of the best players in the world on the team. I don’t think there’s any player out there looking at Vancouver as a bad situation they wouldn’t want to be a part of.

Hmmmn

Pettersson knee looks cooked and they committed 8yrs
Demko's knee is cooked and will probably request a trade
Miller gone
Boeser no contract and is probably close to walking
Hronek's shoulder is a mess and they committed 8yrs

Signing secondary players to NMC's and term...Debrusk Lankinen
Overpaying for 4th liners in hopes they will become more than they are....O'Connor Hoglander
Burning prime assets to stay competitive without being a contender

Setting up for a mushy middle situation where they bet the franchise on Pettersson and Hughes one of which is too weak and injury prone and will never get through multiple rounds of playoffs if he can ever even string together consistent regular seasons and the other probably walking to free agency to go play with his brothers in 2 yrs.

All of which being influenced by a crooner President and an owner that wants to be able to back up his price increases and squeak into the playoffs and cling to last year when everything went perfect for 3/4 of a season

That mess

 

[Hodgy]

Maybe he likes skiing.

On a serious note, he could look great beside a rejuvenated EP and a big body (Joshua?) on the other wing. Then we could use our assets on a 2C.

I am not sure anyone would look good beside EP and Joshua right now.......but obviously when each is playing to their potential, then totally agree.

not for me. i watched him closely. he made some great plays but he was avoiding physical contact even more than usual if that is possible. there was a sequence late in the final where he hesitated to go get a puck in our corner hoping the dman would do it and then turned it over leading to an extended ozone possession against and several chances. it was his puck all the way but he did not want to get hit to move it.

in fairness to marner i also think mcdavid was playing shy for most of the tournament.

This is my thoughts as well. And I know the play you are speaking about, and he absolutely bailed out and lost a puck battle he should have easily one given that he had position on the forechecker. But the other thing I noticed was that he also, at times, didn't manage the puck well in the offensive zone.

But, with that said, you can't argue with the results. He made two great passes that led directly to goals.

And his even strength production is elite and can't be ignored.

He's just a pretty flawed player, and I think you can ask legitimate questions as to whether he's the kind of guy you "win with". But as we all know, lots of players were criticized in this way until they actually won....so, tough to say.

I can see a Boeser for Bennett swap being something both teams would entertain. Panthers have a lot of players that can play centre. They are at the same impasse with Bennett as the Canucks seem to be with Boeser.

That's actually really good for both sides. I just don't know how much you want to disturb this locker room any more than you have to.

I can't really see it. I understand it, from a future perspective, but I have no idea why the Panthers would want to potentially/likely downgrade their lineup, and remove an integral component from their championship team, when they are in a good position to try repeat this year. Just doesn't make sense to me.

i don't get the attraction of bennett. he's not big, he's not fast, he's not physical, he's not good defensively and he doesn't produce. he's a complimentary player. the canucks need quality not more quantity

Bennett will get overpaid, and I think his next contract could end up stinking, but he's definitely physical.

 

[krutovsdonut]

so my cap math says they can't sign boeser even with a 22 man roster. they have to trade him or move more salary to sign him.

canucks next year currently have

-$5.5m dead cap

-9 forwards signed with non-buriable salaries at $38.5m

-5 dman signed with non-buriable salaries at $26.8m

-2 goalies signed with non buriable salarues at $9.5m

so that is $80.3m committed for 16 non-buriable roster spots

to field a 23 man roster they will need 7 more skaters.

pencil in dpetey, lekkermaki and one other existing $900k buriable contract, and you get to $83m with 4 spots still to fill.

allocate $1m each to those remaining 4 slots and you get to $87m. the cap is 95.5m

so by my math can exceed $1m per player on those last 4 contracts by a total amount of $8.5m.

they still need a 3c. that's going to cost them roughly $3m so subtract $2m from the excess and they have $6.5m.

they also need a roster rhd. say $2-3m. now the remaining excess if $4.5m-$5.5m

so no boeser unless they cheap out on rhd or 3c.

i think from all this they are going to try and move one or more of boeser, demko, hoglander or soucy before the tdl, maybe for a rental. soucy to me is the most obvious one to go and gives them room to sign boeser or the rental.

they can't sign boeser until they clear the cap space or they will have a gun to their head in trades.

 

[Vector]

 

[Just A Bit Outside]