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VanillaCoke
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The notion we should dump our very own productive, well liked, home grown core player thirty goal scorer, for an older, worse, possibly more expensive, bone china version, because speedy, is hilariously stupid.
Have yet to see anyone post a plausible, let alone likely, grand plan on how this TEAM is better next year by trashing Brock.
Have yet to see anyone post a plausible, let alone likely, grand plan on how this TEAM is better next year by trashing Brock.
Szechwan
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It's not trashing Brock, using him as our own rental might be one of the most dumb things this organization can do.
The current state of this team predicates a Boeser trade.
Mr. Canucklehead
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I find the Petey discourse frustrating and tiring, which is why I don’t dabble in it much. But I’ll say I want us to keep him, and believe he can get back to being himself. But I feel like this year is going to be a write off for him. If he can show any signs of life before this season is over, that would be a great start.
And for Boeser, again, I just don’t see how you practically replace him, so my preference is to re sign him. But if we definitively aren’t going to, I’d prefer he be moved for assets rather than being allowed to walk for nothing.
And for Boeser, again, I just don’t see how you practically replace him, so my preference is to re sign him. But if we definitively aren’t going to, I’d prefer he be moved for assets rather than being allowed to walk for nothing.
30K foot view...
Keeping Boeser would be a move born out of nostalgia more than good strategy. He's been with the team for a long time. He's a good citizen. His main attribute supporting team success is goal scoring. He is roughly a 30 goal per 82 game guy and will be for at least another 2 or 3 years. He is a decent all around player and a solid top 6 winger. His speed is the only thing that is limiting his effectiveness.
The good strategy view would be to flip the asset to get a younger asset that is expected to peak at at least 30 goals per 82. There is a path where they can get a young winger with top 6 potential, a current roster player who plays Tocchet's system well, and a pick. That is a win and it won't necessarily lower their competitiveness this season.
It would be difficult to see Boeser go but a little bit of pragmatism is required to build and sustain a competitive team.
The only thing that would shift the balance to keeping him is if he was willing to accept a mid term contract (3-4 years) for a modest raise. I don't think that will happen because he will almost certainly command a significant raise on the open market.
Keeping Boeser would be a move born out of nostalgia more than good strategy. He's been with the team for a long time. He's a good citizen. His main attribute supporting team success is goal scoring. He is roughly a 30 goal per 82 game guy and will be for at least another 2 or 3 years. He is a decent all around player and a solid top 6 winger. His speed is the only thing that is limiting his effectiveness.
The good strategy view would be to flip the asset to get a younger asset that is expected to peak at at least 30 goals per 82. There is a path where they can get a young winger with top 6 potential, a current roster player who plays Tocchet's system well, and a pick. That is a win and it won't necessarily lower their competitiveness this season.
It would be difficult to see Boeser go but a little bit of pragmatism is required to build and sustain a competitive team.
The only thing that would shift the balance to keeping him is if he was willing to accept a mid term contract (3-4 years) for a modest raise. I don't think that will happen because he will almost certainly command a significant raise on the open market.
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Reverend Mayhem
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And that's the god's honest truth.
I doubt it even happens, but I've been wrong before.
StickShift
Puxsonnetey Petey saw his shadow
I have a hard time believing that Conor Garland is the keystone to re-signing Quinn Hughes.
The vast likelihood is that Garland walks to go back to a US team next year when his contact is up anyways.
Didn’t say he was the defacto keystone, and it doesn't mean it won’t help at all or we shouldn’t keep the players he likes and actually compete for us night in and out.
Same could be said about Hughes if we’re going to assume — it is looking like we’re on a rocky trajectory and Hughes is off to the US after this anyways so none of this matters?
Reverend Mayhem
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If that's the truth then Quinn Hughes has already played his last game as a Vancouver Canuck. But I don't think so.
I’m very annoyed that all these GMs decided to actually take a break during the 4 Nations instead of hammer out some deals. Now these idiots are going to mad scramble at he last minute.
Reverend Mayhem
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They don't have a heck of a lot left to trade. They have been busy past couple years. Kenny Connors has always had interest to me as well.
Peen
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No more than 6 years for Brock. Just walk away otherwise
feels like 6 should be the max for less
I'd do 5 x 7 million or 6 x 6.5
honestly and this is coming from a big Brock fan, I don't think he's that great, he's probably peaked and I'd expect him to regress as the years pile on, more so than other players, he's just not fast enough or aggressive enough
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Bobby9
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Offer Brock 4 years at 30M. If he rejects it thank him for his time here and trade him.
He’s a great person and good player but he isn’t a franchise player.
He’s a great person and good player but he isn’t a franchise player.
Buchnevich signed that 6 year 8M per year deal that starts next year. He is regressing this year. Stl fans are all over him. Rumoured to try and move him before it kicks in.
