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[Wisp]

One guy I would look into offering up as a trade chip is Conor Garland. I love the guy, but he'll be 30 when his contract is up and I doubt his play style will age well, and there would be a strong desire for his intangibles and competetiveness.

Eg does an offer like Garland for McLeod + Quinn entice Buffalo? You have to think it would.

Dude I have been pounding the Trade Garland chip forever. He'd interest to some team with futures who are looking for veteran help. Clears some more cap space. As with anything with th Canucks and futures, flip for what they actually need.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Chaos lurks beneath the surface, which is why now that the chaos is on the surface I feel much more relaxed.

 

[wonton15]

One guy I would look into offering up as a trade chip is Conor Garland. I love the guy, but he'll be 30 when his contract is up and I doubt his play style will age well, and there would be a strong desire for his intangibles and competetiveness.

Eg does an offer like Garland for McLeod + Quinn entice Buffalo? You have to think it would.

I’d probably do it if we got blown away with an offer but I think we have to keep one of Boeser or Garland to keep Hughes happy and the room together as best as we can.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I’d probably do it if we got blown away with an offer but I think we have to keep one of Boeser or Garland to keep Hughes happy and the room together.

This room doesn't need to be kept happy it needs to be shaken up.

 

[wonton15]

This room doesn't need to be kept happy it needs to be shaken up.

Hughes is incredibly close with Garland, who has emerged as a huge leader as it seems from the outside.

Not saying I wouldn’t do it if we got a real good offer, but if the plan is to keep Hughes happy, Garland is a keeper IMO.

 

[dbaz]

For a two players under contract for next season.

Yes, but I'm going off the good teams/playoff teams don't sell their players.
The avs would of been better off in the playoffs with rantanen than what they got, but long term with the risk of losing him it made sense franchise wise to sell him.
It's going to become common with gms thinking more than they used to

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

This room doesn't need to be kept happy it needs to be shaken up.

You want the Boeser for Rantanen special then...

Hughes is incredibly close with Garland, who has emerged as a huge leader as it seems from the outside.

Not saying I wouldn’t do it if we got a real good offer, but if the plan is to keep Hughes happy, Garland is a keeper IMO.

Glad everyone is finally on the Conor Garland train. Remember when we all wanted to trade him for some unknown reason?

 

[timw33]

One guy I would look into offering up as a trade chip is Conor Garland. I love the guy, but he'll be 30 when his contract is up and I doubt his play style will age well, and there would be a strong desire for his intangibles and competetiveness.

Eg does an offer like Garland for McLeod + Quinn entice Buffalo? You have to think it would.

I really don't know what another undersized scoring winger does for the Buffalo roster, especially after McLeod has actually been a much needed fit as a speedy 3C for them.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Our 40 goal scorer... or 30 goal go normally? Yes. If we don't replace him. We aren't that good and are already missing a ton of offense and would be missing even more while being pretty much the worst offensive team in the NHL.

I'm sure if Boeser is moved (or leave as UFA), the team will find a way to replace him. They are not just going to plug a replacement level player in the 1RW slot and call it a day.

 

[Diablo2020]

I'm sure if Boeser is moved (or leave as UFA), the team will find a way to replace him. They are not just going to plug a replacement level player in the 1RW slot and call it a day.

Who fills out this package from around the league today?

Andrei Kuzmenko
Joni Jurmo
Hunter Brzustewicz
2025 1st
2025 4th (could be a 3rd)

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

I really don't know what another undersized scoring winger does for the Buffalo roster, especially after McLeod has actually been a much needed fit as a speedy 3C for them.

I wouldn't categorize Garland as a scorer, he's a play driver that brings an intensity that group needs. But fair point about the fit of McLeod as a 3C.

 

[Big zZz]

It definitely is just a rumour, and therefore, we shouldn't read a ton into it, but Brough was speaking like it was common knowledge and accepted that Pettersson had a "bad" relationship with the Sedins. He seemed to imply or state that it was a bad or negative relationship, and not just absence of a relationship, but I can't recall the exact language used and perhaps it wasn't clear. If its just an absence or a relationship then its less of a red flag, but if its a "bad" relationship, its a bit of a red flag to me given what I know about the Sedins.


Drance actually had a good point, I think, that Pettersson is partly to blame for all of this speculation since he has given so little explanation or information to the media regarding his long period of poor performance. And I say this as someone who thinks the media are entitled whiners, and I don't think Pettersson has any obligation to say anything to them. But, with that said, if you are going to behave rather childishly to the media, and refuse to answer their questions, then you are going to get lots of speculation.

I usually listen to Canucks central but was bored at work so I caught myself listening to Harford and brough (or whatever it's called). I barely made it through the annoying show jingles but what really made me turn it off was the Petey/sedins thing. When multiple people had stated this is the first time they've ever heard this, that they must not follow the team that closely. I've never once heard a peep of this non relationship thing. It really seemed like in this podcast that media was ganging together to back their own. Sure. That's fine. I'm just not interested in the media. I'm interested into the Canucks. It was widely accepted when Lynch pulled this shit with the media why isn't it okay for Petey?

I agree with your second point too in that Petey is mostly if not all to blame for the speculation though. A little transparency goes a long way in regards to what he's going through. Similar to miller. If they choose to not disclose this kind of stuff, that's their right. But it leaves the door open to mass interpretation.

 

[December5th]

the petey drama has gotten to be to much. he needs a fresh start theres no question about it

 

[BoHorvat 53]

Our 40 goal scorer... or 30 goal go normally? Yes. If we don't replace him. We aren't that good and are already missing a ton of offense and would be missing even more while being pretty much the worst offensive team in the NHL.

I'd move him and go after Ehlers in the summer.

 

[sewellda]

Boeser for Mercer...who says no?

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

It was widely accepted when Lynch pulled this shit with the media why isn't it okay for Petey?

DING

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

The only example that I can think of was the Blues trading Kevin Shattenkirk at the 16-17 TDL for picks and prospects.

They also dealt Paul Stastny a couple years later in a similar circumstance.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Is Boeser a top player though? He's on pace to score 53 points this year, and that assumes no more injuries and that he continues to score at a .70 per game rate. But he's got 2 points in 7 games since Miller left.

Doesn't really seem like a "top player" although obviously our offense sucks so he's going to rank higher by comparison. But even then, I really don't think Boeser, whether he's here or no post-deadline, is going to make a significant affect on the Canucks, and if management agrees, then I can see them trading him for futures at the deadline. Obviously I think they'd also try to trade those futures at the deadline for immediate help like they did with Miller and MP, but I don't know if that will be a condition to trading Boeser.



I don't think the whole in or out of a playoff spot at the deadline is material. I think teams within 4 points or so are close enough that it doesn't really matter that the are technically out of a playoff spot. It of course also ignores games played.


It's actually incredible that Pettersson's play has some how dropped this month. I would have thought, at the turn of the year, that there was no way his play could get worse.

Maybe if you're stat watching.

There have been periods where his play has been dire. But the last while he's been decent given his obviously diminished physical capacity. The stats aren't following yet, but last game, for example, wasn't worse than most of his games during the 10 game 15 point stretch without Miller the MAGA moron. But he only got one point so stat watchers don't know what they're seeing.

 

[racerjoe]

I'd move him and go after Ehlers in the summer.

I would love to pick Ehlers up, think he could be a good fit bringing speed, but I am not relying on that. Maybe we have space to for both if we sign brock, and trade Soucy and Hoglander which i think there is a good chance at anyway.

 

[Hansen]

Move Boeser if you aren't going to sign him. Treating him as a self-rental is stupid if we're fighting for a wild card spot.

 

[dez]

Boeser for Mercer...who says no?

Would probably need to come with an extension, and an offseason buyout of Palat (or full retention trade)

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

The 'we need to trade Petey because it's gotten to this point' is such self-fulfilling prophecy nonsense.

Like if you kept accusing your wife of cheating without evidence other than her being in a funk, and then said, 'well with all of this talk of cheating, the trust is gone. we have to break up'.

Like, Petey isn't going to be himself until next year. Would be wonderful if we could accept that he's struggling through something and talk about some other things instead of hyper-fixating on that, and then getting upset by our own desire to hyper-fixate.

In watching the last two episodes of that Amazon Prime behind the scenes NHL thing, one thing that stood out to me was McDavid talking about how being an introvert makes the media side hard and he unfairly is characterized as a robot, or whatever.

But people are different. I think the media, who are unoriginal and hunt for clicks, seem to want the players to do their job for them. Say something salacious, be charismatic because I surely can't make anything compelling about this game that millions of people live and die with.

So they treat introverts quite unfairly at times.

My girlfriend is an introvert and it's been a wonderful gift to watch her come out of her shell with me, but when we're in a group she's not super comfortable in then she hates the idea of the spotlight and feels really uncomfortable with it.

I'm more comfortable in groups and don't mind being seen or heard.

Neither is better, they're just different.

Would be great if we could stop interpreting being an introvert or not entertaining whatever ignorant bullshit Drance is peddling as being 'aloof' or whatever.

 

[Szechwan]

No one gives a flying f*** if Petey is prickly or treats the house propaganda like shit. It's his on ice performance that matters. Well that and not being a locker room JT

This is just character assassination to deflect attention from management effing up a $96m long term investment

I love it, of course the more toxicity the better. I can hardly wait for next week's unsubstantiated bizarro claim, does Petey kick kittens more often than he spits on puppies? Tune in to Halfbaked and Pigtrough on 650 to find out

I don't really agree with this at all but it really is a great post

 

[Big zZz]

Boeser for Mercer...who says no?

The team with Mercer.

 

[David71]

whens the last time A team fighting for a playoff spot ended up trading their player picks/prospects? and either made the playoffs or is eliminated from contention completely.