Canucks & NHL News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | 4 Nations Break Edition

[quat]

The 2029 3rd is a deal breaker. No way.

The Canucks were that close to McDavid.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

I don't know why everyone is packaging Lekk... he's going to be our Boeser replacement.

What would it take to get Tuch from the Sabres?

 

[Ernie]

i dont see how people have watched hoglander play these last couple weeks worth of games and want to get rid of him. he makes the team better when hes on the ice even if hes not getting many points. not only forechecks hard, but hes pretty good at keeping possession going that most other canucks would of fumbled. theres a reason lots of teams have tried to trade for him because they know his value is way higher then his points suggest, and are trying to get him on the cheap

He's playing better but still not really generating chances like he has in the past. Being staples on the 4th line probably doesn't help though.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Pretty sure not playing for 3 seasons says enough I don't think you need to officially announce it lmao.

I think he was just sick and tired of being bombarded by Canucks fans asking him when he is making his comeback.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

Technically, they don't need another centre if Chytil proves durable and capable.

But because of his injury risk and uncertain upside, and because he and Suter are both capable 3Cs already, the uncertainty is at the top end of Chytil's ability/durability. This suggests a 2C target to hedge against those concerns.

I agree in principle, but that leaves Blueger the only C on the team breaking 50% in the dot which is why I’d go after RoR even as his wheels slowly leave.

Regardless, it should be a C we acquire. I like our wingers as is. I like Suter better on the wing as well.

IMO we are really close to having the best paper team in the NHL.

 

[andora]

Technically, they don't need another centre if Chytil proves durable and capable.

But because of his injury risk and uncertain upside, and because he and Suter are both capable 3Cs already, the uncertainty is at the top end of Chytil's ability/durability. This suggests a 2C target to hedge against those concerns.

I just think they need another Center whether he has risk or not

@andora[/is almost exactly referencing the LeBrun tweet: They are prioritizing a centre.
[HEADING=2]Pierre LeBrun:[/HEADING]
“The moment they lose [URL='https://theprovince.com/tag/jt-miller/']J.T. Miller[/URL] they want to go out and replace him. And obviously they got a good young player in Filip Chytil but the priority for [URL='https://theprovince.com/category/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/']Vancouver Canucks[/URL] is to go find help at centre. Whether that happens before March 7 that would be a great bonus because they are still in a playoff race but the reality is bigger picture they are going to try to get that done before puck drop next fall,” says NHL insider Pierre LeBrun.

I go a step further in joining the Josh Norris rumours to the above.
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Had no idea about that reporting, but with suter also capable of playing wing that they could ideally grab a right hand Center that could at least maintain a third line I think they get it

 

[Vector]

I don't know why everyone is packaging Lekk... he's going to be our Boeser replacement.

What would it take to get Tuch from the Sabres?

Lekkerimaki

 

[strattonius]

Pavel Buchnevich should be a name that we should be hounding the STL GM for.

They might be looking to do a soft rebuild - Buchnevich just signed a $50M extension and they might be looking to get rid of him if they are pivoting. Buchnevich is turning 30 in a couple months and his next best years are going to be wasted in STL. His current modified NTC becomes a full NTC when the extension kicks in next year.

Canucks are a team that should flex their cap space and willingness to spend here. Would be a great way to get Buchnevich for relatively cheap. Buch is a two way top six forward that would fit in with Tocch's system (not a one dimensional offensive F). The contract isn't great, but with the rising cap, $8M for a top six forward isn't going to be out-of-line.... think it would be a discount to get him as he's on a down year and turning 30 soon. A first and a roster player like Hoglander is probably not far off.

This would be a very smart target. As you're saying, St. Louis might want to do a bit of a re-tool and Buchnevich could easily shake loose. For those that aren't aware, Buchnevich essentially signed the exact same contract as JT Miller. 8M is a really nice price for a top line player.

Buchnevich is a rangey, playmaker winger that is excellent along the boards and on the forecheck. Not a burner by any means but a smart player.

 

[Three On Zero]

Coming in late but I don’t have any interest in Brayden Schenn.

Schenn does nothing for the current forward group, they need a tenacious puck hound. A bigger Garland

 

[VanillaCoke]

@andora is almost exactly referencing the LeBrun tweet: They are prioritizing a centre.

Pierre LeBrun:​

“The moment they lose J.T. Miller they want to go out and replace him. And obviously they got a good young player in Filip Chytil but the priority for Vancouver Canucks is to go find help at centre. Whether that happens before March 7 that would be a great bonus because they are still in a playoff race but the reality is bigger picture they are going to try to get that done before puck drop next fall,” says NHL insider Pierre LeBrun.

I go a step further in joining the Josh Norris rumours to the above.

I feel like that's the we want Norris specifically talk, much like the cozens talk, they definitely have had interest in both for awhile, but neither are currently upgrades on chytil. Also maybe both are wingers sooner or later, and i wouldn't be surprised by acquiring either specifically.

I dont think they're looking at or for the ROR, B. Schenn upgrades to chytil some have mentioned.

A scoring and/or physical winger more likely, a la greenway, hopefully Olivier, definitely possibly as well as someone with term they've been interested in previously.

We know now Rutherford had been after MP3 for almost three years..

 

[Jrtu]

Thatd be a good idea. Wonder what the cost is. Probably something like:

To Vancouver : McDavid, 2026 5th

To Edmonton: Lekkerimaki, 2025 1st, Hoglander, Soucy, 2029 3rd, Kunz, 2026 6th

Then rock:

Debrusk Pettersson Sherwood
McDavid Chytil Brock Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
OConnor Blueger Aman/Karlsson

Yikes, what is this blasphemy?
We give all that up only for a 5th rounder and some bloke named McDavid?

 

[TruGr1t]

I feel like that's the we want Norris specifically talk, much like the cozens talk, they definitely have had interest in both for awhile, but neither are currently upgrades on chytil. Also maybe both are wingers sooner or later, and i wouldn't be surprised by acquiring either specifically.

I dont think they're looking at or for the ROR, B. Schenn upgrades to chytil some have mentioned.

A scoring and/or physical winger more likely, a la greenway, hopefully Olivier, definitely possibly as well as someone with term they've been interested in previously.

We know now Rutherford had been after MP3 for almost three years..

I don't think they necessarily want to bump Chytil down to 3C, but it would be ideal to have a complimentary C with more offense than Suter who can compliment Chytil ... I think they'd effectively be 2Ca and 2Cb. That's why vets on shorter-term deals (ie. Schenn and O'Rielly) make some sense to me as they give you that added depth, plus some veteran presence, and aren't locked in on long-term deals. Frankly, I think I'd prefer either to Cozens or Mittelstadt.

I haven't really seen anything in the younger centre market that's particularly interesting outside players that would more likely be central pieces in a Pettersson deal (who we apparently aren't moving anymore).

 

[JT Milker]

Lekkerimaki

That trade would be done before you finish pronouncing Lek’s full name.

 

[StickShift]

Coming in late but I don’t have any interest in Brayden Schenn.

I have a feeling that Canucks management will be interested in Brayden Schenn.

The primary reason is that I think management is looking for another center who is a bit more abrasive who they can match-up against other team's top centers in the playoffs — and at a high level Brayden Schenn fares pretty well against McDavid, MacKinnon, Hintz, and Scheifele over the last 1.5 seasons.

There are secondary reasons why I believe management might be interested in Brayden Schenn too.

• The organization has emphasized fixing the culture of the locker room. Many in the organization remember the role that Luke Schenn had before and Brayden Schenn is a chip off the same block.
• Considering how much money and term management was prepared to throw at Elias Lindholm to be their 3C, I think management will not bat an eye at taking on 3y x 6.5mm for Brayden Schenn for top-nine minutes. Even if he is already 33.

Whether they are right about these evaluations... that's another question.

 

[me2]

I still think there's the possibility Boeser is traded if they can't come to terms and then is immediately replaced in a somewhat lateral move. Like Boeser out, and then right away they announce a trade for Rakell (or whoever). That's not punting the season. It's directly replacing Boeser's spot with someone who's cost controlled for a few years.

I agree. The team with Bowser is just a wild card team and isn't winning the cup. I don't think allvin can afford to lose boeser for nothing. They need to approach boeser as if he's on another team. Should Vancouver give up a first to rent him with the team at is current level? If not, why give up a first by keeping him.

Worst case: there is no guarantee we even make the playoffs if they keep boeser, miss the playoffs and giving up a first to rent boeser.

 

[Diamonddog01]

If we were to somehow magically acquire Forsberg or Buchnevich Boeser is definitely out and that means Lekkermaki most likely is given a shot in the top 6. This is sort of the foundation:

Buchnevich - Petterson - Sherwood
DeBrusk - C - Lekkermaki

or something like that. I think we'll see Lekkermaki and one of O'Connor or Sherwood as top 6 staples as money is getting a bit tight. Definitely feel they need a 2nd line C which bumps Chytil down to the "third" line with Joshua and Garland.

 

[me2]

If we were to somehow magically acquire Forsberg or Buchnevich Boeser is definitely out and that means Lekkermaki most likely is given a shot in the top 6. This is sort of the foundation:

Buchnevich - Petterson - Sherwood
DeBrusk - C - Lekkermaki

or something like that. I think we'll see Lekkermaki and one of O'Connor or Sherwood as top 6 staples as money is getting a bit tight. Definitely feel they need a 2nd line C which bumps Chytil down to the "third" line with Joshua and Garland.

Chytil would make a decent wing for the top 6. Options there.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Just trade for Josh “Chuck” Norris

 

[Jerry the great]

If we were to somehow magically acquire Forsberg or Buchnevich Boeser is definitely out and that means Lekkermaki most likely is given a shot in the top 6. This is sort of the foundation:

Buchnevich - Petterson - Sherwood
DeBrusk - C - Lekkermaki

or something like that. I think we'll see Lekkermaki and one of O'Connor or Sherwood as top 6 staples as money is getting a bit tight. Definitely feel they need a 2nd line C which bumps Chytil down to the "third" line with Joshua and Garland.

I don't know about Buchnevich. a year ago, with two playoffs left on his deal at $5.8, I'd have been really interested. but his play has dropped off two years in a row and he's hasn't even started his 7 year big money contract. Kind of gives me Lindholm vibes.

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

Pretty sure not playing for 3 seasons says enough I don't think you need to officially announce it lmao.

Basically how I remember Loui's time here:

 

[Szechwan]

Buffalo trading Tuch for a package around Lekkerimaki is the *exact* opposite of what that team needs to be doing.

They should be shipping out half their surplus of high ceiling young guns for actual, tangible NHL players.

That being said, it's Buffalo.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Just trade for Josh “Chuck” Norris

I think Drance touched on this, but if you look at his deployment and you know anything about Travis Green he has thrown him to the wolves which means he loves this player. And he will be telling management this which likely means he will not be traded. I was just looking at Greens deployment while he was here he buried Beagle and Sutter.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I feel like that's the we want Norris specifically talk, much like the cozens talk, they definitely have had interest in both for awhile, but neither are currently upgrades on chytil. Also maybe both are wingers sooner or later, and i wouldn't be surprised by acquiring either specifically.

I dont think they're looking at or for the ROR, B. Schenn upgrades to chytil some have mentioned.

A scoring and/or physical winger more likely, a la greenway, hopefully Olivier, definitely possibly as well as someone with term they've been interested in previously.

We know now Rutherford had been after MP3 for almost three years..

Norris is a clear upgrade on Chytil.

For wing, I can see Nyquist. Greenway and Olivier would likely cost more than is reasonable.

i dont see how people have watched hoglander play these last couple weeks worth of games and want to get rid of him. he makes the team better when hes on the ice even if hes not getting many points. not only forechecks hard, but hes pretty good at keeping possession going that most other canucks would of fumbled. theres a reason lots of teams have tried to trade for him because they know his value is way higher then his points suggest, and are trying to get him on the cheap

They have to put Hoglander back in the top6.

That trade would be done before you finish pronouncing Lek’s full name.

You would trade Lekkerimaki for 1 year of Tuch?

If the assumption is that he gets re-signed, does he take the same discount here as Boeser would? If not, there's very little surplus value gained and a top2 prospect is lost...

 

[supercanuck]

Basically how I remember Loui's time here:

It also kind of perfectly encapsulates Gudbranson's time here as a Canuck as well.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I think Drance touched on this, but if you look at his deployment and you know anything about Travis Green he has thrown him to the wolves which means he loves this player. And he will be telling management this which likely means he will not be traded. I was just looking at Greens deployment while he was here he buried Beagle and Sutter.

Heard Drance say this as well. It's weird because there's the rumour that OTT has been trying to trade him? Making it seem like he would be a cap dump.

Or, maybe they just want to trade him for a similar asset to get out from under his deal?

His usage does suggest Green favours him.