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[Orr4Norris]

Thatd be a good idea. Wonder what the cost is. Probably something like:

To Vancouver : McDavid, 2026 5th

To Edmonton: Lekkerimaki, 2025 1st, Hoglander, Soucy, 2029 3rd, Kunz, 2026 6th

Then rock:

Debrusk Pettersson Sherwood
McDavid Chytil Brock Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
OConnor Blueger Aman/Karlsson

No thanks to trading Lekkerimaki. He’s untouchable. Switch him for Raty and I think the Canucks would consider it.

 

[Curm]

You don’t want a top six forward with bite for free? Especially when this team is missing top six forwards?


We don’t have assets to trade for a top end forward as it stands

Turbo and Bert are perfectly fine complimentary players.

Nope, not that one. He's streaky, weak defensively, and has 3 more years left after this one at $5.5 million.

 

[andora]

It's the best mental space he could hope for: Skilled linemates and his old coach.

That said, he's not back for me unless he gets his speed back. That's when a 100~ point form is possible.



It's because Chytil is an injury risk that they need another centre.



There is a big difference between a regular 30 goal scorer and a regular 20 goal scorer.

If Boeser takes $8m/6yrs, re-sign him. If he wants 7 yrs, cap hit has to be in the 7s. It's a no go at 8 years.



DeBrusk's contract has the 2nd highest efficiency on the team. Very difficult to match that in the upcoming cap environment. (Were you thinking Roslovic?)

This is the time to prioritize long-term deals. Whether it's Boeser, Norris, or whomever, the long-term contract is key. And if you can do this while avoiding FA, so much the better.

If chytil wasnt a risk we dont need another center? Really? To what just be a chance for a round or two?

Chytil risk or no risk they need another 2/3 center to leverage physically..

 

[quat]

DeBrusk (5.5) Pettersson (11.6) Lekkerimaki (.918)
Hoglander (3) Chytil (4.44)
Joshua (3.25) Bleuger (1.8) Garland (4.95)
Sasson (1) Raty (1) Sherwood (1.5)

Hughes (7.85) Willander (.975)
Pettersson (5.5) Hronek (7.25)
Pettersson (.838) Myers (3)
Soucy (3.25)

Demko (5)

Dead cap: 5.483

Cap hit: 78.104
Cap remaining: 17.396
UFAs that matter: Boeser, Lankinen, O Connor, Suter, Forbort
RFA re-signing estimates - Raty, Sasson, Willander

Some glaring things here - Soucy and Hoglander are not providing value in the lineup relative to their caphit so they should be traded for a top 6 forward or used to get assets for a top 6 forward. If they're both launched out, there's $23.646 million available.

DeBrusk (5.5) Pettersson (11.6) Lekkerimaki (.918)
Top 6 trade (~9 million max) Chytil (4.44) Boeser (7.5)
Joshua (3.25) Bleuger (1.8) Garland (4.95)
O Connor (2) Raty (1) Sherwood (1.5)
Sasson (1)

Hughes (7.85) Willander (.975)
Pettersson (5.5) Hronek (7.25)
Pettersson (.838) Myers (3)
Forbort (1.75)

Demko (5)
Lankinen (3)

There's roughly $9.39 million left for a top 6 winger. This is in the instance that Suter prices himself out or if the team wants to go in another direction to acquire higher end talent. They could also sign Suter for 3x3 and spend 6-7 million on another forward while letting Lekkerimaki continue to simmer in the A.

Ultimately, the team will need to part ways with Hoglander and Soucy if they want to add talent on the top end. Additionally, this highlights how important it is to have players on cheap contracts throughout the lineup - guys like Sherwood and ELC players like Lekkerimaki, Willander, and D Petey give the team loads of ammunition to build their top end.

I still hold out hope that Hoglander figures out the 200 foot game and how to finish. Yep. I'm that guy.

 

[quat]

Thatd be a good idea. Wonder what the cost is. Confidently something like:

To Vancouver : McDavid, 2026 5th

To Edmonton: Lekkerimaki, 2025 1st, Hoglander, Soucy, 2029 3rd, Kunz, 2026 6th

Then rock:

Debrusk Pettersson Sherwood
McDavid Chytil Brock Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
OConnor Blueger Aman/Karlsson

Be confident. It's not like you're going out on a limb with this call.

 

[LemonSauceD]

I wonder if Fabian Zetterlund is someone management could want to target. 25 years old, 5’11 220lbs, speed, plays with an edge, and built like a tank. Has 15 goals 18 assists 33 points in 57 games, had 24 goals and 44 points in 82 last season.

he’s the perfect winger for Pettersson imo. 1st rounder + Kudryavtsev + Hoglander or something.

 

[December5th]

i dont see how people have watched hoglander play these last couple weeks worth of games and want to get rid of him. he makes the team better when hes on the ice even if hes not getting many points. not only forechecks hard, but hes pretty good at keeping possession going that most other canucks would of fumbled. theres a reason lots of teams have tried to trade for him because they know his value is way higher then his points suggest, and are trying to get him on the cheap

 

[Curm]

Drance getting the Brayden Schenn Canucks trade target thing going on the show today.

He has a lot of contract left, 3 more years at $6.5, and he's lost a few steps, but he'd battle hard against the premier centers. With the way the Canucks defend, maybe they don't need a speed demon versus someone who can be just quick enough, play a system, check hard and make guys pay the price.

I like the thought of him or O'Reilly, and maybe even Luke Schenn, coming in for veteran depth and the room, but the contracts are prohibitive. On the fence with that.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

One of the greats. Kidding aside in his prime he was a heck of player a two-way monster.

 

[Nuckles]

i dont see how people have watched hoglander play these last couple weeks worth of games and want to get rid of him. he makes the team better when hes on the ice even if hes not getting many points. not only forechecks hard, but hes pretty good at keeping possession going that most other canucks would of fumbled. theres a reason lots of teams have tried to trade for him because they know his value is way higher then his points suggest, and are trying to get him on the cheap

Yeah when he's playing well it's all fine and dandy, but when he's not he's an undersized defensive liability. And last playoffs he was a total non-factor when everyone ups their physicality.

If the Canucks want to add a top 6 center and upgrade on another forward this season, the forwards going out are one of the AHL guys taking the 12th forward spot (Aman, Raty, Sasson, PDG) and probably Hoglander IMO. This is even if they decide to swap out Boeser for someone else.

One of the greats. Kidding aside in his prime he was a heck of player a two-way monster.

 

[Bleach Clean]

If chytil wasnt a risk we dont need another center? Really? To what just be a chance for a round or two?

Chytil risk or no risk they need another 2/3 center to leverage physically..

They need a top6C. Chytil's injury risk swings the depth at that position too much. He's also not a proven top6C. And so, they need both quality and redundancy at C.

@TruGr1t: Heart the Drance take just now, he's saying Schenn primarily because he recognizes that Travis Green loves Josh Norris too much.

 

[rypper]

Thatd be a good idea. Wonder what the cost is. Probably something like:

To Vancouver : McDavid, 2026 5th

To Edmonton: Lekkerimaki, 2025 1st, Hoglander, Soucy, 2029 3rd, Kunz, 2026 6th

Then rock:

Debrusk Pettersson Sherwood
McDavid Chytil Brock Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
OConnor Blueger Aman/Karlsson

The 2029 3rd is a deal breaker. No way.

 

[andora]

Leverage physically?

Anyway, they need a top6C. Chytil's injury risk swings the depth at that position too much. He's also not a proven top6C. And so, they need both quality and redundancy at C.

So even if chytil didnt have risk they need a center

Yes.. bigger stronger center to go against other bigger stronger centers

 

[VancouverJagger]

No thanks to trading Lekkerimaki. He’s untouchable. Switch him for Raty and I think the Canucks would consider it.

I don't think Lekk is untouchable at all.........I'd very much put him in play to get a top 6 forward and If i had to guess he would be in play for the right assett.........I'd easily package him and a first and another roster player if it got us that elusive top 6 scoring piece.

 

[VancouverJagger]

i dont see how people have watched hoglander play these last couple weeks worth of games and want to get rid of him. he makes the team better when hes on the ice even if hes not getting many points. not only forechecks hard, but hes pretty good at keeping possession going that most other canucks would of fumbled. theres a reason lots of teams have tried to trade for him because they know his value is way higher then his points suggest, and are trying to get him on the cheap

Yah I agree completely.........people seem like they pretty much ready to give him away.

On most nights in his very limited minutes he's been very noticeable........for the right reasons. He's really been able to create something out of nothing often with not the most talented linemates. We will see come playoffs but there are other guys I'd look to move before him.

 

[Flik]

Yeah when he's playing well it's all fine and dandy, but when he's not he's an undersized defensive liability. And last playoffs he was a total non-factor when everyone ups their physicality.

If the Canucks want to add a top 6 center and upgrade on another forward this season, the forwards going out are one of the AHL guys taking the 12th forward spot (Aman, Raty, Sasson, PDG) and probably Hoglander IMO. This is even if they decide to swap out Boeser for someone else.


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lmfao, that picture is never gonna get old

 

[Baby Pettersson]

One of the greats. Kidding aside in his prime he was a heck of player a two-way monster.

Pretty sure not playing for 3 seasons says enough I don't think you need to officially announce it lmao.

 

[Bleach Clean]

So even if chytil didnt have risk they need a center

Yes.. bigger stronger center to go against other bigger stronger centers

Technically, they don't need another centre if Chytil proves durable and capable.

But because of his injury risk and uncertain upside, and because he and Suter are both capable 3Cs already, the uncertainty is at the top end of Chytil's ability/durability. This suggests a 2C target to hedge against those concerns.

 

[Josepho]

He has been much better lately but if any GM wants to give us a free out on the Hoglander extension, then we should take it.

 

[VanillaCoke]

I don't think they're prioritizing another center, and certainly not a 2C.
Chytil is their guy, been buried in new York and now the clear next up to EP1, so maybe prepare for disappointment (or a winger) if expecting an upgrade to Chytil.


The list of available decent to real good wingers is pretty long, so who they'll target idk yet but got so much cap space I expect them to somehow utilize most/all of it.

Should make for a pretty crazy next four weeks either way.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Goals for management;

Move EP for a young player w low cap.

Move Demko.

Move on from Boeser.

Package Lekk for a winger w size.

Like who? its pretty easy to say all of the above w/o naming names. once you do i reckon you'll see how little it makes sense.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I don't think they're prioritizing another center, and certainly not a 2C.
Chytil is their guy, been buried in new York and now the clear next up to EP1, so maybe prepare for disappointment (or a winger) if expecting an upgrade to Chytil.
The list of available decent to real good wingers is pretty long, so who they'll target idk yet but got so much cap space I expect them to somehow utilize most/all of it.
Should make for a pretty crazy next four weeks either way.

@andora is almost exactly referencing the LeBrun tweet: They are prioritizing a centre.

Pierre LeBrun:​

“The moment they lose J.T. Miller they want to go out and replace him. And obviously they got a good young player in Filip Chytil but the priority for Vancouver Canucks is to go find help at centre. Whether that happens before March 7 that would be a great bonus because they are still in a playoff race but the reality is bigger picture they are going to try to get that done before puck drop next fall,” says NHL insider Pierre LeBrun.

I go a step further in joining the Josh Norris rumours to the above.

 

[Vector]

Coming in late but I don’t have any interest in Brayden Schenn.

 

[wonton15]

Brayden Schenn is who the Leafs trade yet another 1st for only to get bounced in round 1 game 7.

 

[Ernie]

I wonder if Fabian Zetterlund is someone management could want to target. 25 years old, 5’11 220lbs, speed, plays with an edge, and built like a tank. Has 15 goals 18 assists 33 points in 57 games, had 24 goals and 44 points in 82 last season.

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he’s the perfect winger for Pettersson imo. 1st rounder + Kudryavtsev + Hoglander or something.

He's not an upgrade on Chytil. He's basically a 3rd liner that is getting top minutes because of the team he's on. At 25, what you see is what you get. He's not a top six player on a real team.