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[Curm]

Could also try to add to Hoglander to get Bertuzzi. Either Bertuzzi or Tervainen would be reasonable gets as they are both top six wingers that are making only $5.5M with minimal term left. Feel like they could use Soucy as well if they want more veteran presence on the back-end.

Soucy + Hoglander for Bertuzzi/Teravainen coud work for both teams.

Hard pass on Bertuzzi, I wouldn't take him for free or even trade a Juulsen for him, let alone give up Hoglander.

I like Hoglander on the 4th line right now, not sure that I will for $3 million next season, but we'll worry about that in the summer.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Key in the offseason is going to be getting rid of Soucy and Hoglander.

The two alone make $6M+

Hoglander I'm more open to keep but don't want to sit through the same song and dance that we've seen for four years now. He is who he is, a good bottom six forward that has some upside but he won't reach his potential in Vancouver. A rebuilding team with loads of cap space that needs to hit the floor would make sense.

Chicago is the perfect place. Hoglander would have unlimited opportunities
How much would we have to add to Hoglander to get Teravainen? He's still a good top 6 playmaking winger on a reasonable contract.

Could also try to add to Hoglander to get Bertuzzi. Either Bertuzzi or Tervainen would be reasonable gets as they are both top six wingers that are making only $5.5M with minimal term left. Feel like they could use Soucy as well if they want more veteran presence on the back-end.

Soucy + Hoglander for Bertuzzi/Teravainen coud work for both teams.

Not a fan of Bertuzzi and Teravainen, I rather trade Soucy for picks and open up the cap space for an impact forward than trading for either of those 2.

I still like Hoglander on the team, his work rate is something we can use more of, and his ability to produce while getting bottom 6 mins with little PP time is valuable. I feel that he played well enough overall this season, just a little unlucky to not have more points. I wouldn't hesitate to include him in a trade for a good piece back, but neither Bert nor Turbo are it to me.

 

[theguardianII]

Not a fan of Bertuzzi and Teravainen, I rather trade Soucy for picks and open up the cap space for an impact forward than trading for either of those 2.

I still like Hoglander on the team, his work rate is something we can use more of, and his ability to produce while getting bottom 6 mins with little PP time is valuable. I feel that he played well enough overall this season, just a little unlucky to not have more points. I wouldn't hesitate to include him in a trade for a good piece back, but neither Bert nor Turbo are it to me.

I'd trade for McDavid

 

[sting101]

Call me crazy but if we flunk out at getting a good topC trade and the only options left are a Suter type replacement for Suter i would give Cody Glass a shot.

Not an ideal scenario as both are so injury prone but him and Chytil with Raty coming would give us good 2 way versatility with size

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Call me crazy but if we flunk out at getting a good topC trade and the only options left are a Suter type replacement for Suter i would give Cody Glass a shot.

Not an ideal scenario as both are so injury prone but him and Chytil with Raty coming would give us good 2 way versatility with size

 

[Bleach Clean]

Feel like the EP1 that comes back from playing for Sweden is going to be close to the one hundred points version.

Fast, fun, highest skilled but realistically low pressure hockey, and returning to an upgraded MP3 dressing room sans JTM, best case scenario for sure.

It's the best mental space he could hope for: Skilled linemates and his old coach.

That said, he's not back for me unless he gets his speed back. That's when a 100~ point form is possible.

So aside from speed what is the appeal with norris right now and his risk?

Do we want 2 centers now with significant injury risk?

It's because Chytil is an injury risk that they need another centre.

The dressing room chemistry angle is probably the best one for keeping him, but on pure statistical basis you should be able to replace 60-70% of his production at least via UFA. Still depends on his ask, anything over 5 years at $7.5-$8M AAV is no bueno.

There is a big difference between a regular 30 goal scorer and a regular 20 goal scorer.

If Boeser takes $8m/6yrs, re-sign him. If he wants 7 yrs, cap hit has to be in the 7s. It's a no go at 8 years.

No but will be interesting to compare them moving forward. Point is on a pure goal generation basis, however, you should be able to replace most of Boeser's output with a cheaper player. I do agree you have to consider chemistry though. I'd also be interested in older top-six UFAs who would take shorter-term deals.

DeBrusk's contract has the 2nd highest efficiency on the team. Very difficult to match that in the upcoming cap environment. (Were you thinking Roslovic?)

This is the time to prioritize long-term deals. Whether it's Boeser, Norris, or whomever, the long-term contract is key. And if you can do this while avoiding FA, so much the better.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Kind of wish Petey was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire. Also, why is Raymond on the third line he has become one of the best wingers in the game.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Kind of wish he was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire.

Maybe it'll convince Allvin to make a move for Forsberg.

 

[Bgav]

Canucks gotta change the goal song to complete the vibe turnaround

 

[thecupismine]

Kind of wish Petey was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire. Also, why is Raymond on the third line he has become one of the best wingers in the game.

That first line is fake, it’s put there for Leafs fans to feel happy that Nylander is on the “top” line. That’s the line that realistically gets sheltered offensive minutes, it’s really more like their third line given how bad Zib has been this year.

The third line from Friedman is their high leverage line that will match with opposing top units.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Nucks now going to trade for Kempe and Forsberg.

Sweet.

 

[Peen]

Kind of wish Petey was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire. Also, why is Raymond on the third line he has become one of the best wingers in the game.

Bet you right now that third line is utilized heavily.

And then whichever of Zib and Pettersson wake up for this tournament and play well will center the other top six line.

 

[strattonius]

Canucks gotta change the goal song to complete the vibe turnaround

Watch your mouth.

We have the best goal song in the league.

 

[MS]

Kind of wish Petey was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire. Also, why is Raymond on the third line he has become one of the best wingers in the game.

Is that '1st line' really their first line or is Friedman just listing the line with a Maple Leaf on it first?

I think most non-Toronto people would take Forsberg-Pettersson-Kempe over Nylander-Zibanejad-Rakell.

As bad as Pettersson has been this year, Zibanejad has been worse.

 

[Soups On]

DeBrusk (5.5) Pettersson (11.6) Lekkerimaki (.918)
Hoglander (3) Chytil (4.44)
Joshua (3.25) Bleuger (1.8) Garland (4.95)
Sasson (1) Raty (1) Sherwood (1.5)

Hughes (7.85) Willander (.975)
Pettersson (5.5) Hronek (7.25)
Pettersson (.838) Myers (3)
Soucy (3.25)

Demko (5)

Dead cap: 5.483

Cap hit: 78.104
Cap remaining: 17.396
UFAs that matter: Boeser, Lankinen, O Connor, Suter, Forbort
RFA re-signing estimates - Raty, Sasson, Willander

Some glaring things here - Soucy and Hoglander are not providing value in the lineup relative to their caphit so they should be traded for a top 6 forward or used to get assets for a top 6 forward. If they're both launched out, there's $23.646 million available.

DeBrusk (5.5) Pettersson (11.6) Lekkerimaki (.918)
Top 6 trade (~9 million max) Chytil (4.44) Boeser (7.5)
Joshua (3.25) Bleuger (1.8) Garland (4.95)
O Connor (2) Raty (1) Sherwood (1.5)
Sasson (1)

Hughes (7.85) Willander (.975)
Pettersson (5.5) Hronek (7.25)
Pettersson (.838) Myers (3)
Forbort (1.75)

Demko (5)
Lankinen (3)

There's roughly $9.39 million left for a top 6 winger. This is in the instance that Suter prices himself out or if the team wants to go in another direction to acquire higher end talent. They could also sign Suter for 3x3 and spend 6-7 million on another forward while letting Lekkerimaki continue to simmer in the A.

Ultimately, the team will need to part ways with Hoglander and Soucy if they want to add talent on the top end. Additionally, this highlights how important it is to have players on cheap contracts throughout the lineup - guys like Sherwood and ELC players like Lekkerimaki, Willander, and D Petey give the team loads of ammunition to build their top end.

 

[wonton15]

Kind of wish Petey was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire. Also, why is Raymond on the third line he has become one of the best wingers in the game.

I’d bet that “third” line plays the most or second most of all 4. That’s a dynamic line with Bratt/Raymond’s speed and Ek’s two way game.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Kind of wish Petey was playing with one of Rakell or Nyquist two players the Canucks could realistically acquire. Also, why is Raymond on the third line he has become one of the best wingers in the game.

Relative to the rest of the teams in this tournament, this is a very weak forward group, especially up the middle.

Very good defense though.

 

[sensodyne17]

Hard pass on Bertuzzi, I wouldn't take him for free or even trade a Juulsen for him, let alone give up Hoglander.

I like Hoglander on the 4th line right now, not sure that I will for $3 million next season, but we'll worry about that in the summer.

You don’t want a top six forward with bite for free? Especially when this team is missing top six forwards?

Not a fan of Bertuzzi and Teravainen, I rather trade Soucy for picks and open up the cap space for an impact forward than trading for either of those 2.

I still like Hoglander on the team, his work rate is something we can use more of, and his ability to produce while getting bottom 6 mins with little PP time is valuable. I feel that he played well enough overall this season, just a little unlucky to not have more points. I wouldn't hesitate to include him in a trade for a good piece back, but neither Bert nor Turbo are it to me.

We don’t have assets to trade for a top end forward as it stands

Turbo and Bert are perfectly fine complimentary players.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

I'd take Teuvo any day.

 

[Jerry the great]

You don’t want a top six forward with bite for free? Especially when this team is missing top six forwards?


We don’t have assets to trade for a top end forward as it stands

Turbo and Bert are perfectly fine complimentary players.

We do have the assets (Lekkerimaki, Willander, Raty, Kudryavtsev, Mynio, EP25, 2025 rd 1 pick, 2026 rd 1 pick, 2027 rd 1 pick) to trade for an impact forward, whether we want to give them up or is the question. As for Bertuzzi and Teravainen, if we're trying to get faster, they're a step in the wrong direction:

 

[Nuckles]

 

[VanillaCoke]

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[Reverend Mayhem]

idk if ROR wants to play in western Canada, but if you're giving assets to Nashville its for Forsberg first and foremost.

WhO rEpLaCeS mIlLer???

In all seriousness, we need to be looking at centres. Im jazzed we all think Chytil doesn’t suck anymore (cough), but we still need a 2C because 4 games does not a season make

 

[M2Beezy]

I'd trade for McDavid

Thatd be a good idea. Wonder what the cost is. Probably something like:

To Vancouver : McDavid, 2026 5th

To Edmonton: Lekkerimaki, 2025 1st, Hoglander, Soucy, 2029 3rd, Kunz, 2026 6th

Then rock:

Debrusk Pettersson Sherwood
McDavid Chytil Brock Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
OConnor Blueger Aman/Karlsson

 

[Michael Dal Swolle]

Thatd be a good idea. Wonder what the cost is. Probably something like:

To Vancouver : McDavid, 2026 5th

To Edmonton: Lekkerimaki, 2025 1st, Hoglander, Soucy, 2029 3rd, Kunz, 2026 6th

Then rock:

Debrusk Pettersson Sherwood
McDavid Chytil Brock Boeser
Joshua Suter Garland
OConnor Blueger Aman/Karlsson

I dunno, I think I'd start McDavid on the third line and see if he can work his way up