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[604]

Looking at it, we just need to see who shakes out.

Thomas, Kyrou, Barzal, Cozens, or Zegras are all players I would take, in that order, and I’m almost certain we could get at least one of them without giving up any roster players or players projected to be on the roster next year (Lekk, EP, Willander).

 

[VanillaCoke]

Palmieri would be a rental so his age doesn’t matter.

JGP is signed for next season but that’s it so there’s not a long term commitment to him. He also shouldn’t cost anything to acquire and could eat up valuable match-up minutes. He wouldn’t be my first choice and I’d rather any cap dollars allocated to him go to a viable top-6 scorer.

No interest in Schenn. I don’t think the three really swim in the same waters given their different contract statuses.

Maybe a retained palms but five mils on ufa rental sounds unlikely.

Same as the other old options, I can't see them meticulous all year for 10M of 3rd line matchup Johnny Page, doesn't make sense.


Much more likely imo the Norris type is what they're after, maybe buy low cozens or dach, the under thirty tier, but moving miller to add players older than miller also seems rather unlikely.

 

[me2]

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Beats my effort

And he spake "have the Miller grind his flour far, and the Pettersons will multiply."
Hughes 3:16

 

[Vector]

Maybe a retained palms but five mils on ufa rental sounds unlikely.

Same as the other old options, I can't see them meticulous all year for 10M of 3rd line matchup Johnny Page, doesn't make sense.


Much more likely imo the Norris type is what they're after, maybe buy low cozens or dach, the under thirty tier, but moving miller to add players older than miller also seems rather unlikely.

All depends on what’s actually available. They are projected to have 12m by the deadline. Possible they could grab Palmieri, or another similarly profiled player, like the Zucker trade last season where the Predators basically acquired him for free because they didn’t need retention.

If they can’t get any big fish, I can definitely seem them going that route.

 

[Grub]

Lets see what JT does. Is Lankinen starting by any chance?

 

[Vector]

Lets see what JT does. Is Lankinen starting by any chance?

Saros

 

[Ernie]

Looking at it, we just need to see who shakes out.

Thomas, Kyrou, Barzal, Cozens, or Zegras are all players I would take, in that order, and I’m almost certain we could get at least one of them without giving up any roster players or players projected to be on the roster next year (Lekk, EP, Willander).

I love the optimism but the only player you might be able to get is Zegras and it would be a disaster. You'd probably have to trade all three of the prospects you mentioned to get any of the others. Teams would be lining up.

 

[Szechwan]

jews and muslims don't eat pork because people in the levant started keeping pigs in their yards and it made everything stink forever (because not enough rain) so the religious authorities made it taboo to eat pork so people would stop keeping pigs and keep cleaner animals instead

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[Ernie]

jews and muslims don't eat pork because people in the levant started keeping pigs in their yards and it made everything stink forever (because not enough rain) so the religious authorities made it taboo to eat pork so people would stop keeping pigs and keep cleaner animals instead

They also started raising lobsters in their yards and had the same problem.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Beats my effort

And he spake "have the Miller grind his flour far, and the Pettersons will multiply."
Hughes 3:16

I should have added a link to where I grabbed that image from. Always credit artists when you can:

https://www.inprnt.com/gallery/illusbyaf/quinn-hughes-jesus/acrylic/

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Only reason? Get serious. We had an excellent system and defense that helped Silovs in a big way. Players had to sell out defensively and it ended up costing us a ton of offense.

Silovs had some good moments. But as the series went on he had holes, particularly from point shots. His body of work against the Oilers was patchy at best but there was no reason to expect anything better from a rookie being thrown in to the pressure cooker.

And that was basically the jist of it. Because Silovs had virtually no experience and was all of a sudden playing in the 2nd rd of the Stanley Cup Playoffs, we were all just elated he wasn't getting lit up. Any talk that he carried us is pretty nonsensical to me.

He made some huge saves in the final game and gave the Canucks a chance. He sucks but he did play well in that game.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

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Seriously.

He made some huge saves in the final game and gave the Canucks a chance. He sucks but he did play well in that game.

Honestly, we should all as a fan base watch each game of the Kings 2012 run. They got out of each series early, and played maybe the best defensive hockey I’ve seen. It was downright dominant. I didn’t find it boring either.

Silovs and the D worked together and had success. That’s how you should do it. In that run, Quick basically took away the entire bottom of the net and made it up with his athleticism. I’ve never seen any other goalie cheat that low down and have it work. Thanks to his D, he barely had to face any uncontested shots.

At the time, we thought we lost the goalie battle but it was really the D battle we lost in. Not to take away from Quick, he was the perfect goalie for the system they used.

 

[Agent007]

Feels more n more like unless there are surprises out there Josh Norris might just be the main target (acquisition cost, Hughes factor, position) but have to accept the injury risk and the contract (hence why the acquisition price should fit what we can afford to pay).

 

[ChilliBilly]

It will be a minimum of 7 years before we can compete again.

Seriously?

Everyone looks at this as 1 issue, with 2 parts.

a) we have a window while we have Hughes, so we have to make the most of it until he walks in FA.

b) we are not sure if we can re-sign Hughes. This seriously affects are decision.

I keep saying this. We are going to be fans for ever. Seriously. So plan for both the short term and the long term. But this year we are a borderline team as far as the playoffs are concerned. It would be idiotic to sell off assets like our 1st or our top prospects (Unless the return is exceptional).

And we now have one of the best (if not the best) D's in the league. For years. Hughes. Hronek. MP3. With EP2 looking great. And fantastic projections for Willander, KK and Mynio. And maybe Mancini.

Sure the forward group needs tinkering. We have some cap space at the deadline.

But unless some amazing deal comes forward, parlay it into a few good pieces and draft picks. Not some pie in the sky rental. Like last year, though for the most part I acknowledge the moves for Lindholm and Zadorov. had merit.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Yes the Canucks have played so well at home why not increase prices.


I get it with the cap going up all Canadians teams are gonna have to do this. It does seem like it should be a little more gradual though.

 

[Soups On]

Looking at it, we just need to see who shakes out.

Thomas, Kyrou, Barzal, Cozens, or Zegras are all players I would take, in that order, and I’m almost certain we could get at least one of them without giving up any roster players or players projected to be on the roster next year (Lekk, EP, Willander).

You could get Cozens, Zegras, and a guy like Norris without giving up those prospects. Thomas, Kyrou, and Barzal would easily command one of the top prospects. The team should be doing everything to NOT give up those 3 prospects - all 3 are expected to make the roster next year and having quality ELCs is fantastic for building a competitive roster.

Honestly, it would be really risky, but I'm the team could snag Norris for Soucy + Hoglander. The contract and salary is nasty for Ottawa to eat and with reports they want out of his contract, things could get interesting. Having both Norris and Chytil would be risky however.

 

[604]

You could get Cozens, Zegras, and a guy like Norris without giving up those prospects. Thomas, Kyrou, and Barzal would easily command one of the top prospects. The team should be doing everything to NOT give up those 3 prospects - all 3 are expected to make the roster next year and having quality ELCs is fantastic for building a competitive roster.

Honestly, it would be really risky, but I'm the team could snag Norris for Soucy + Hoglander. The contract and salary is nasty for Ottawa to eat and with reports they want out of his contract, things could get interesting. Having both Norris and Chytil would be risky however.

I’d take Cozens or Zegras then.

Both have completely different but useful tools to work with.

 

[StickShift]

Has there been anything out there credibly linking the Canucks to Norris?

For a club that worked so hard to get themselves out of LTIR hell AND that has dealt with the unavailability of Demko each season. It seems irrational to me that they would go after a player with that much term and that much salary who will have a question mark over his availability each year.

With all due respect to the Senators org — if Ottawa is running away from a "Top-6 Center" shouldn't that kind of tell us something?

 

[mriswith]

I wouldn't touch Norris with a 10 foot pole.

Outside of one decent year, he scores like a career 3rd liner at even strength. Plus the contract and the injuries? Way too much risk, not enough upside.

I massively favour the strategy of paying up for good targets versus trying to dig around in the bargain bin for targets with medium to high risk profiles.

 

[andora]

Has there been anything out there credibly linking the Canucks to Norris?

For a club that worked so hard to get themselves out of LTIR hell AND that has dealt with the unavailability of Demko each season. It seems irrational to me that they would go after a player with that much term and that much salary who will have a question mark over his availability each year.

With all due respect to the Senators org — if Ottawa is running away from a "Top-6 Center" shouldn't that kind of tell us something?

Yes it should

 

[strattonius]

I'm the opposite than most on Norris. If he is indeed being shopped it will be pennies on the dollar for what I consider a pretty impact forward. Get him for cheap. I understand the injury concerns and ultimately it comes down to the actual asking price, but it looks like a good opportunity to buy low on a good player.

 

[valkynax]

Yes the Canucks have played so well at home why not increase prices.


I get it with the cap going up all Canadians teams are gonna have to do this. It does seem like it should be a little more gradual though.

 

[Wisp]

I kind of like the notion of them using their cap space to acquire rental players on expensive contracts like Palmieri. Get futures to take on other team's cap problems while building depth for a stretch run that will disappear from the books in July.

Hold on, going to find a list

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I kind of like the notion of them using their cap space to acquire rental players on expensive contracts. Get futures to take on other team's cap problems while building depth for a stretch run that will disappear from the books in July.

Hold on, going to find a list

Gotta spend money to make money. Financing this team to a championship is costly but worth it for me IMO.

 

[Agent007]

Has there been anything out there credibly linking the Canucks to Norris?

For a club that worked so hard to get themselves out of LTIR hell AND that has dealt with the unavailability of Demko each season. It seems irrational to me that they would go after a player with that much term and that much salary who will have a question mark over his availability each year.

With all due respect to the Senators org — if Ottawa is running away from a "Top-6 Center" shouldn't that kind of tell us something?

Sat Shah hinted at this and there was another reporter from hockey news that mentioned the interest.

The interesting question is how many cases are there are players with this kind of injury history pre age 25 bouncing back and staying healthy post age 25?