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[Vector]

Here’s my spreadsheet for upcoming UFAs, each team’s cap situation, and a trade tracker. I update the spreadsheet daily. I use CapFriendly to create this list and AFP Analytics for the contract projections.

Edit: Spreadsheet has been updated with AFP's latest projections and I added a new section for RFAs.

Spoiler: UFAs By Position

Top-6 Forwards
Sam Reinhart	RW	28	8y/10.25m
Jake Guentzel	W	29	6y/7.94m
Steven Stamkos	LW/C	34	3y/6.30m
Jonathan Marchessault	W	33	3y/6.25m
Joe Pavelski	RW	39	1y/3.94m
Matt Duchene	RW/C	33	3y/6.46m
Sean Monahan	FW	29	3y/2.87m
Tyler Toffoli	W	32	5y/6.53m
Jonathan Drouin	W	29	4y/4.46m
Teuvo Teravainen	W	29	5y/6.13m
Vladimir Tarasenko	RW	32	3y/5.64m
Adam Henrique	LW/C	34	2y/4.60m
Chandler Stephenson	C/LW	30	5y/5.77m
Max Domi	C/RW	29	3y/4.17m
Patrick Kane	RW	35	2y/5.51m
Elias Lindholm	C/RW	29	7y/8.04m
Anthony Mantha	W	29	3y/4.40m
Daniel Sprong	W	27	3y/3.89m
Jake DeBrusk	W	27	5y/5.92m
David Perron	W	36	2y/2.80m
Tyler Bertuzzi	W	29	5y/6.00m
Anthony Duclair	W	28	3y/3.22m
Jason Zucker	W	32	3y/5.46m
Jack Roslovic	C/RW	27	3y/3.11m
Max Pacioretty	LW	35
Alexander Barabanov	W	30	3y/3.03m

Top-4 Defecemen
Shayne Gostisbehere	LD/RD	31	3y/4.38m
Brady Skjei	LD	30	6y/7.39m
Noah Hanifin	LD	27	7y/7.69m
Brandon Montour	RD	30	7y/8.71m
Oliver Ekman-Larsson	LD	32	3y/3.67m
Dylan DeMelo	RD	31	4y/5.07m
Sean Walker	LD/RD	29	4y/4.87m
Matt Roy	RD	29	4y/5.58m
TJ Brodie	LD/RD	34	3y/4.91m
Brenden Dillon	LD	33	2y/3.91m
Alexandre Carrier	RD	27	3y/3.57m
Nikita Zadorov	LD/RD	29	4y/5.10m
Chris Tanev	RD	34	3y/4.68m
Brett Pesce	RD	29	6y/6.72m
Matt Grzelcyk	LD	30	3y/4.07m
Oliver Kylington	LD/RD	27

Bottom-6 Forwards
James van Riemsdyk	W	35	1y/1.50m
Warren Foegele	W	28	4y/3.58m
Stefan Noesen	W	31	2y/3.23m
Danton Heinen	W	28
Tyler Johnson	FW	33
Alexander Wennberg	C	29	4y/4.21m
Jordan Martinook	W	31	2y/2.79m
Dakota Joshua	LW	28	3y/3.00m
Michael Amadio	W	28
Teddy Blueger	C/LW	29	2y/2.56m
Sam Lafferty	FW	29	2y/1.72m
Kiefer Sherwood	W	29
Mike Hoffman	LW	34	1y/1.86m
Tomas Tatar	W	33	1y/2.21m
Kyle Okposo	RW	36	1y/1.96m
Kasperi Kapanen	RW	27
Andrew Cogliano	LW	37
Jakob Silfverberg	W	33	2y/2.78m
Cal Clutterbuck	RW	36
Corey Perry	RW	39
Patrick Maroon	W	36
Yakov Trenin	LW/C	27	3y/3.33m
Dominik Kubalik	W	28	2y/1.34m
Anthony Beauvillier	W	27
Sam Carrick	C/RW	32
Tanner Pearson	LW	31
Zemgus Girgensons	LW/C	30	2y/1.74m
Colin Blackwell	C/RW	31
Brandon Duhaime	W	27
Nick Cousins	LW/C	30
Connor Brown	W	30
Joel Kiviranta	W	28
William Carrier	LW	29	3y/2.68m
Tyler Motte	W	29	3y/2.55m
Samuel Blais	W	28	1y/0.94m
Tyson Jost	C	26

Bottom-Pairing Defencemen
Erik Gustafsson	LD	32	3y/4.99m
Tyler Myers	RD	34	2y/2.67m
Justin Schultz	RD	33	2y/3.81m
Kevin Shattenkirk	RD	35	1y/1.37m
Jalen Chatfield	RD	28	3y/2.77m
Mike Reilly	LD	30	1y/1.24m
Dmitry Kulikov	LD/RD	33
Alec Martinez	LD	36	1y/1.7m
Tyson Barrie	RD	32	2y/3.72m
Jani Hakanpaa	RD	32	2y/2.38m
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Ian Cole	LD/RD	35	2y/3.09m
Matt Dumba	RD	29	3y/3.73m
Colin Miller	RD	31
Mark Giordano	LD	40	1y/3.11m
Marco Scandella	LD	34
Calvin De Haan	LD/RD	33
Josh Brown	RD	30
Ilya Lyubushkin	RD	30	1y/1.31m
Joel Edmundson	LD/RD	31
Troy Stecher	RD	30
Derek Forbort	LD	32
Erik Johnson	RD	36	1y/1.13m

Forward Depth
Christian Fischer	W	27
Craig Smith	RW	34
Victor Olofsson	W	28
Trevor Lewis	RW/C	37
Justin Bailey	RW	29
Kevin Stenlund	C/RW	27
Jeff Carter	RW/C	39
Ryan Carpenter	RW/C	33
Nicolas Aube-Kubel	RW	28	2y/1.53m
AJ Greer	W	27
Liam O'Brien	W	29
Chris Tierney	C	30
Mattias Janmark	W	31
Sam Gagner	RW/C	34
Brendan Smith	LD/RD	35
Eric Robinson	LW	29
Zach Parise	LW	39
Kevin Labanc	W	28	2y/1.94m
Fredrik Olofsson	C/LW	28
Alex Barre-Boulet	W	27
Matt Martin	W	35
Radim Zohorna	W	28
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare	C/LW	39
Tyler Pitlick	RW	32
Austin Watson	W	32
Tomas Nosek	LW/C	31
Jansen Harkins	LW	27
Rourke Chartier	C	28
Steven Lorentz	FW	28

Defensive Depth
Jack Johnson	LD	37
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Anthony Deangelo	RD	28	2y/1.80m
Jarred Tinordi	LD	32
Sebastian Aho	LD	28
Dakota Mermis	LD/RD	30
Jacob MacDonald	LD/RD	31
Dennis Gilbert	LD	27
Nikita Zaitsev	RD	32
Nick DeSimone	RD	29
Travis Dermott	LD/RD	27
Caleb Jones	LD/RD	27
Chad Ruhwedel	RD	34
William Lageson	LD/RD	28

Goaltenders
Cam Talbot	G	36	1y/1.89m
Ilya Samsonov	G	27	2y/3.26m
Alex Nedeljkovic	G	28	2y/2.00m
Kaapo Kahkonen	G	27	2y/2.93m
Scott Wedgewood	G	31	2y/1.57m
Casey DeSmith	G	32	1y/2.02m
Anthony Stolarz	G	30	2y/1.91m
James Reimar	G	36
Antti Raanta	G	35	1y/1.31m
David Rittich	G	31
Kevin Lankinen	G	29	1y/1.58m
Laurent Brossoit	G	31	2y/1.95m
Calvin Pickard	G	32
Martin Jones	G	34

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[krutovsdonut]

the fact necas has a dad being quoted about his role on the team and desire to be traded at age 25 is a huge red flag. maybe they can trade him in a package for marner.

Avs will almost certainly be permitted to void his contract when/if he finishes his suspension and the Player Assistance Program approves his reinstatement.

i have a bad record recently with misreading your posts but i don't think avs can terminate nichushkin if he completes stage 3 and graduates. i think they are stuck with his contract and cap hit unless he hits stage 4.

 

[Vector]

i have a bad record recently with misreading your posts but i don't think avs can terminate nichushkin if he completes stage 3 and graduates. i think they are stuck with his contract and cap hit unless he hits stage 4.

You got this one right! From what I've read, there's a possibility the NHL would permit the Avalanche to void his contract based on past conduct. No one seems to know for certain, however.

 

[arttk]

Avs will almost certainly be permitted to void his contract when/if he finishes his suspension and the Player Assistance Program approves his reinstatement.

I think the point of the program is that if you finish and pass, you don’t get punished. I think if he gets into phase 4 then the Avs can do something about it

 

[Vector]

I think the point of the program is that if you finish and pass, you don’t get voided

The point of the program is to provide assistance in dealing with various addiction and mental health issues. Not getting voided is an incentive.

Lebrun is reporting that what happened isn’t grounds to void the contract. My personal opinion is they’ll find a way to get permission to void the contract or Nichushkin never completes stage 3.

So, good chance I’m wrong on this actually.

 

[krutovsdonut]

i would agree that guys who get to stage 3 tend to create collateral situations where their contracts can be terminated. at this stage nichushkin has millions of reasons to get his act together.

 

[alternate]

The point of the program is to provide assistance in dealing with various addiction and mental health issues. Not getting voided is an incentive.

Lebrun is reporting that what happened isn’t grounds to void the contract. My personal opinion is they’ll find a way to get permission to void the contract or Nichushkin never completes stage 3.

So, good chance I’m wrong on this actually.

Your first paragraph is why I'm surprised these stages come with a loss of pay. I understand not making the team cover it, but imo the NHL and PA should be covering at least part of the contract (to be fair, I don't actually know that they aren't).

Just seems counterproductive to tell a guy to get his life in order and focus on his recovery, while simultaneously taking away his income.

 

[andora]

Your first paragraph is why I'm surprised these stages come with a loss of pay. I understand not making the team cover it, but imo the NHL and PA should be covering at least part of the contract (to be fair, I don't actually know that they aren't).

Just seems counterproductive to tell a guy to get his life in order and focus on his recovery, while simultaneously taking away his income.

Should be a middle ground

Provide some sort of wage living expense etc.. from a pool.. contract voided should be separate and activate this subsidized income from the pool.

At the end of the day a contract whether hundreds of thousands or tens of Millions is still just being held accountable by your employer

 

[arttk]

The point of the program is to provide assistance in dealing with various addiction and mental health issues. Not getting voided is an incentive.

Lebrun is reporting that what happened isn’t grounds to void the contract. My personal opinion is they’ll find a way to get permission to void the contract or Nichushkin never completes stage 3.

So, good chance I’m wrong on this actually.

His pay is already suspended for 6 months, I think these programs exists in phase for a reason and they are to protect players from getting contract getting voided if they are willing to go through them to improve.

 

[valkynax]

Should the Canucks do the unthinkable and trade Superstar Goalie Thatcher Demko? Think about the haul they’d get for him, the return would be incredible. He’s had a few injuries already and his durability is a bit of a concern going forward. We can sign a cheap veteran goalie to split starts with King Silovs, we should sign Silovs to a 1M x 7 year deal this offseason. Fortune favours the Bold.

No, Silovs has shown immense potential, but he still needs more work.

 

[JAK]

In modern NHL, you need two goalies. Schedule is only going to get tighter with the league pushing for best on best tournaments too.

I wouldn't be surprised if roster limits will expand to 24 to allow teams to carry a third goalie or another skater.

 

[Killer Orcas]

Should the Canucks do the unthinkable and trade Superstar Goalie Thatcher Demko? Think about the haul they’d get for him, the return would be incredible. He’s had a few injuries already and his durability is a bit of a concern going forward. We can sign a cheap veteran goalie to split starts with King Silovs, we should sign Silovs to a 1M x 7 year deal this offseason. Fortune favours the Bold.

Goalies never return what fans think and were not trading Demko unless Silovs plays this well for a full season in the show.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Goalies never return what fans think and were not trading Demko unless Silovs plays this well for a full season in the show.

Yup. If Silovs is great next year and you get an insane haul for Demko you might consider it in the 2025 offseason. There is nothing wrong with having 2 good goalies though and it’s not worth trading Demko for a first+. We should have a Demko/Silovs tandem until Demko’s contract ends and make a decision then depending on the play of Silovs, Demko’s health, etc.

 

[DFAC]

Any interest in bringing back Jalen Chatfield? Would he be an upgrade over Juulsen for 3RD?

 

[racerjoe]

Yup. If Silovs is great next year and you get an insane haul for Demko you might consider it in the 2025 offseason. There is nothing wrong with having 2 good goalies though and it’s not worth trading Demko for a first+. We should have a Demko/Silovs tandem until Demko’s contract ends and make a decision then depending on the play of Silovs, Demko’s health, etc.

If the Canucks only had a history of having a Vezina level goalie with a young and up and coming goalie ready to back them up.

I am just glad the league would never do something to make one of those goalies contracts suddenly terrible...

 

[arttk]

No, Silovs has shown immense potential, but he still needs more work.

Yeah we need him to be a full time backup with excellent results for like 2 seasons before we anoint him as the starter.

There is no book on him right now, the test is always, what happens once the league has scouted him to death.

 

[dez]

Any interest in bringing back Jalen Chatfield? Would he be an upgrade over Juulsen for 3RD?

He's going to get paid, I can see a bad team like the sharks give him term and money

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Should the Canucks do the unthinkable and trade Superstar Goalie Thatcher Demko? Think about the haul they’d get for him, the return would be incredible. He’s had a few injuries already and his durability is a bit of a concern going forward. We can sign a cheap veteran goalie to split starts with King Silovs, we should sign Silovs to a 1M x 7 year deal this offseason. Fortune favours the Bold.

Absolutely not. Most teams are running a platoon nowadays to avoid overworking their starter. Running Silovs and say, DeSmith would just be asking for a Campbell/Skinner situation, albeit without the gross cap hit.

There may come a day where Silovs takes over and we can ponder trading Demko. Or we simply move Silovs in such a scenario. That won't be this coming off season though.

 

[Canucks LB]

Absolutely not. Most teams are running a platoon nowadays to avoid overworking their starter. Running Silovs and say, DeSmith would just be asking for a Campbell/Skinner situation, albeit without the gross cap hit.

There may come a day where Silovs takes over and we can ponder trading Demko. Or we simply move Silovs in such a scenario. That won't be this coming off season though.

I mentioned trading him before. Also, you don’t need an elite goalie to win the Stanley Cup.

Getting a haul and saving cap can be just as important

 

[krutovsdonut]

Yeah we need him to be a full time backup with excellent results for like 2 seasons before we anoint him as the starter.

There is no book on him right now, the test is always, what happens once the league has scouted him to death.

correct.

many such cases.

 

[JAK]

I mentioned trading him before. Also, you don’t need an elite goalie to win the Stanley Cup.

Getting a haul and saving cap can be just as important

I respectfully disagree with trading Demko.
His cap hit isn't $10m.

 

[Vector]

Any interest in bringing back Jalen Chatfield? Would he be an upgrade over Juulsen for 3RD?

I would be. Obviously comes down to the contact but I imagine the Canucks will look to keep Myers or get a replacement and keep Juulsen in his current role.

 

[Nucker101]

Remember when DeSmith was worshipped here to start the season? Spencer Martin a couple of years ago?


The Demko talk is wild, Kevin Woodley calls him the McDavid of goalies ffs.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I mentioned trading him before. Also, you don’t need an elite goalie to win the Stanley Cup.

Getting a haul and saving cap can be just as important

While I agree with the latter, I just don't think trading Demko now is a good day. We don't know whether Silovs is a flash in the pan (Lack) or a legitimate future starter (Schneider/Markstrom).

At the same time, I'll admit, if a team like New Jersey or Carolina came calling with a crazy package, it would be something to seriously consider. Suddenly, bringing back Lindholm, Zadorov, Joshua and even Hronek gets a whole lot easier.

 

[DFAC]

While I agree with the latter, I just don't think trading Demko now is a good day. We don't know whether Silovs is a flash in the pan (Lack) or a legitimate future starter (Schneider/Markstrom).

At the same time, I'll admit, if a team like New Jersey or Carolina came calling with a crazy package, it would be something to seriously consider. Suddenly, bringing back Lindholm, Zadorov, Joshua and even Hronek gets a whole lot easier.

When's the last time a star goalie got traded?

 

[Canucks LB]

I respectfully disagree with trading Demko.
His cap hit isn't $10m.

It will be