Confirmed with Link: Canucks name Quinn Hughes 15th Captain in Franchise History

[Hit the post]

So you think the veterans on the team won't listen to Hughes because they are older? Is that your reasoning here?



I feel Johnny Canucker is that 55 year old workhorse stocking shelves at Safeway who acts like a boss.

That would only hold water to me if Hughes was a rookie. He's got close to 300 NHL games under a belt now. He's 'sitting at the adults table' now (and has been for years).

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

The same reason that the 55 year old workhorse who’s been stocking the shelves at Safeway won’t give 2 f***s about what the newly promoted 18 year old “Produce manager” has to say. It’s a tale as old as time in most aspects of life.

Than that older vet who refuses to listen can get traded somewhere else, pretty sure hockey players are on a different level than people that work at Safeway, but you keep reaching with these takes......

 

[kranuck]

Competence and value play a role, and if you're a star, no one cares about your age.

Do you think Sergei Brin and Larry Page (Google founders) had trouble earning the respect of employees at Google even though they were in their 20's? Or Mark Zuckerberg at Facebook?

And before the argument is made that they were the bosses, keep in mind that the people who joined those companies were often highly paid older executives with lots of other job opportunities who often took pay cuts to follow the lead of the younger guys because driven people want to win and they'll follow the lead of people with the skills to take them to the promised land.

When I was growing my company before we had formal authority levels the team naturally took the lead of those who were the most driven, smart and skilled, regardless of age, and in both sales and software side it occasionally happened that the leader that emerged were younger. We eventually had to formalize that leadership structure because the de facto leaders often wanted to enforce things that they knew needed to be done in order to set the culture and processes right but they felt they were overstepping their bounds until we told them that in fact that was now their job. Some wanted it and some didn't, some thrived and others stumbled, but age was never the deciding factor.

Page got removed as CEO because he was such a shitty manager.

He wanted to do things like fire all the PMs. He was a moron.

Bad example.

 

[credulous]

Page got removed as CEO because he was such a shitty manager.

He wanted to do things like fire all the PMs. He was a moron.

Bad example.

yeah google literally brought in eric schmidt to be the adult in the room. fb/meta brought in sandberg for the same reason

 

[MarkMM]

Page got removed as CEO because he was such a shitty manager.

He wanted to do things like fire all the PMs. He was a moron.

Bad example.

Yeah, they did need to bring in "adult supervsion", fair enough, but a bit goofy to call him a moron. Did he have room to grow as a manager? Absolutely, but far from a moron, and a lot of the management tenets he did bring in have become key drivers of innovation.

Nonetheless, the argument that older people don't take younger leaders seriously is just not factual.

yeah google literally brought in eric schmidt to be the adult in the room. fb/meta brought in sandberg for the same reason

Definitely a key skill of a leader (especially a young one) is to know how to use the benefit of others' experience. The military is built around this, a platoon is led by a 22 year-old Second Lieutenant, commanding 30 or so troops supported by the advice of a 40 year-old Warrant Officer.

If Hughes has the right character, drive and intelligence I think he'll earn the respect and loyalty of his teammates, and he hopefully is smart enough to lean on the guidance of older vets around him (which would have been good to have Luke Schenn or Tanev around for somethng like that but hopefully he'll be fine; Linden did well as a young leader).

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

i've already posted in the previous thread about how i think this is the correct choice if you have to choose a captain

but thinking it over, here's my completely uninformed take: either they rushed into naming quinn captain because FAQ wanted to sell some new jerseys, or there is a good reason for this. following door number two, i'm guessing tocchet and the rest of the coaching staff saw this as a necessary move and didn't think there was anything to be gained by waiting a year or two to make sure quinn was really really really ready.

and the reason, i'm guessing, is it's time for the best players on the team to take ownership of the team. horvat's gone, and either you're going to continue to have JTM and some of the other older guys like myers and pearson if he's still around holding court, or at least pulling the team's momentum away from quinn/petey/demko, or you hand it over to quinn and let those three take over with everyone understanding that this is the direction the coaching staff and management is backing.

this doesn't mean that JTM stops talking or isn't a part of the leadership group, it means there's a chain of command and quinn can tell him to stfu when he has to without a fistfight. which ultimately is also maximizing JTM's ability to influence the team in a good way.

but to follow an earlier post in an earlier thread by me, this reminds me of choosing young sakic as captain of the nordiques. this is going to unlock something in hughes that not everyone can see yet. i think he's going to level up even higher this year and finish the season as a norris finalist.

man what a f***ing great year it was

 

[Flik]

man what a f***ing great year it was

Epic self quote, ngl

 

[nergish]

Not only was he the right choice for captain, but the pressure actually elevated his own game.

Horvat was a good captain, but a Norris level Dman with Quinn's rarified skill set is something that just commands respect. He's not going to bully you into performing.

But the young man is constantly jumping backwards down a double-black diamond run, and his teammates are just trying to keep up. With JT Miller, and the Sedins behind kicking your ass from the other end, it's an elite leadership group now.

 

[Hit the post]

Not only was he the right choice for captain, but the pressure actually elevated his own game.

Horvat was a good captain, but a Norris level Dman with Quinn's rarified skill set is something that just commands respect. He's not going to bully you into performing.

But the young man is constantly jumping backwards down a double-black diamond run, and his teammates are just trying to keep up. With JT Miller, and the Sedins behind kicking your ass from the other end, it's an elite leadership group now.

Hughes also was able to develop in spite of minor league head coaches at the NHL level. That says alot to me.

 

[LandfiII]

I kina hate he goes by Quinn. Quintin Hughes is such a dope name.