Canucks Medical Team Is Bad? - An Interesting Article

[Lenny Levino]

Just came across this article on Reddit and found it interesting.

What are your thoughts on it?

 

[I am toxic]

Who are ya gonna believe - Canucks "medical" staff, or the Mayo Clinic?

 

[God]

i'm not going to read all of that, but this poster needs to do the same thing for every nhl team. oscar klefbom went through an insane series of injuries that forced his retirement, and as insane as they are, i don't think i've seen one oilers fan blame their medical staff on what happened.

i can't remember the last time the canucks were 1st in the league in man games lost to injury. some of these examples are pretty bad too. every nhl player abused painkillers like toradol. demko got overplayed by clark, which led to his demotion. writing a lot of words means nothing if you can't interpret anything correctly.

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

That's the hard-hitting journalism I want out of....a redditor? really? yawn.

Send that site into some godforsaken crevice, it's entirely cooked. I implore you to not use it, it's the echo chamber of all echo chambers, a complete drag on the idea of free speech.

 

[racerjoe]

i'm not going to read all of that, but this poster needs to do the same thing for every nhl team. oscar klefbom went through an insane series of injuries that forced his retirement, and as insane as they are, i don't think i've seen one oilers fan blame their medical staff on what happened.

i can't remember the last time the canucks were 1st in the league in man games lost to injury. some of these examples are pretty bad too. every nhl player abused painkillers like toradol. demko got overplayed by clark, which led to his demotion. writing a lot of words means nothing if you can't interpret anything correctly.

My thing is its not just one player. Like go back and look I originally was fine with the way the team handled the Mik thing. Its when it happens to as many players as it has happened to.

 

[arttk]

Who are ya gonna believe - Canucks "medical" staff, or the Mayo Clinic?

what would a mayo company know about medical stuff right?

 

[I am toxic]

Whataboutism

Not just for mere mortals

 

[bandwagonesque]

what would a mayo company know about medical stuff right?

I worked with a guy who mentioned on several occasions that the "It's very creamy" Hellman's commercial with the two geriatric women was clearly an erotic double entendre and shouldn't have been allowed on television.

 

[Cogburn]

Isn't this an established and acknowledged problem?

 

[poler]

This is the problem we have to stop our players playing through injuries when there only at 50-70%.

We lost Hughes because we keep playing him while he’s dealing with something. They don’t respect tendinitis as an injury and force him to play through. Mikeave playing for 4 months with torn acl. It’s quite sad really. I’m just hoping next year we can bounce back and everyone can be 100% healthy.

Also I’m a believer on Petterson bouncing back next year stronger then ever he is only 26 and had many strong seasons and is still point per game player. He went from top 90 percent skater participating in fastest skater competitions in all star game to below average. It’s not like player can completely forget how to skate.

 

[Siludin]

I don't believe the travel angle because Canucks travel ha improved with Vegas/Seattle joining the league.

 

[Raistlin]

at work, didnt read that. but I hear from many that Reagen and his team has not been good. its not clown Trump cabinet level bad..... but from Dickinson, Pearson, Mikheyev, Demko, EP .... thats a LOT of misdiagnosed treatement that takes longer than expected to return from.

 

[hotshot1]

That's the hard-hitting journalism I want out of....a redditor? really? yawn.

Send that site into some godforsaken crevice, it's entirely cooked. I implore you to not use it, it's the echo chamber of all echo chambers, a complete drag on the idea of free speech.

Reddit being an echo chamber is exactly why these people flock to it. They can’t handle opposing views so they just ban anything that makes them think too hard. They think they're "protecting democracy".

Free speech isn’t the goal. It’s about controlling the narrative. Most of them haven’t ever thought about what free speech means. They just know it’s "bad" when the "wrong" people have it.

 

[Lenny Levino]

Reddit being an echo chamber is exactly why these people flock to it. They can’t handle opposing views so they just ban anything that makes them think too hard. They think they're "protecting democracy".

Free speech isn’t the goal. It’s about controlling the narrative. Most of them haven’t ever thought about what free speech means. They just know it’s "bad" when the "wrong" people have it.

Agreed. However, the medium something was published on doesn't really change its message or the potential validity of it.

Redditors say the same thing whenever an article is posted on x.com, 4chan or some other platform.

Would you be more inclined to believe this to be true if it was published on this forum instead of on Reddit? I don't see how it changes anything.

 

[mriswith]

Reddit being an echo chamber is exactly why these people flock to it. They can’t handle opposing views so they just ban anything that makes them think too hard. They think they're "protecting democracy".

Free speech isn’t the goal. It’s about controlling the narrative. Most of them haven’t ever thought about what free speech means. They just know it’s "bad" when the "wrong" people have it.

Reddit is astroturfed to hell and back and the platform is perfectly suited for that use, that's the main problem.

This is ranging off topic but it was "fine" (generous use of the word) until around 2015ish. Bots and astroturfing skyrocketed around the u.s. election, never went away, and AI has made the problem exponentially worse. Wacky stuff coming out like Ghislaine Maxwell having secretly been the mod of several huge subreddits confirms a lot of things people have been noticing for years.

 

[Hit the post]

Who are ya gonna believe - Canucks "medical" staff, or the Mayo Clinic?

 

[I am toxic]

Good to see the thread hijacked over a discussion about reddit

And people say I am . . . oh, wait . . . that's right . . . carry on

 

[Breakers]

Unmmmmmmm

We literally had a golf chiropractor as our head of medicine for years

Becuase he was buddies with tortellini

 

[rypper]

Unmmmmmmm

We literally had a golf chiropractor as our head of medicine for years

Becuase he was buddies with tortellini

It was like a season.

 

[Glennis the Menace]

I'm on reddit under the same handle and read that post. I appreciate that poster's passion, but if you just look at the data, we don't have the most games lost to injury even when factoring cap hit into the equation. The redditor's thesis that the Canucks medical staff is uniquely incompetent doesn't hold water to me, if you look at Viz's site (the one linked) even accounting for this season, our CHIP (cap hit of injured players), gross man-games lost to injury, and points lost to injury are much lower this decade (on average) than the past.

I think that many people want a neat and tidy explanation for the team's poor performance this season. Some folks probably assume we have the highest injuries in the league (we don't, the Avs and Utah have legions more, especially when you count cap hit). It's mentally easier to assume our faceless, nameless medical staff are incompetent, conspiring with management (who is of course puppeted by Aquaman!) to sabotage players' careers in pursuit of a playoff run, rather than to face the more unsettling music that that the risk of injury in the NHL is very high and doctors get things wrong all the time, and it's more likely our team's performance is probably better explained by regression to the mean (especially in shooting%), substandard player procurement/deployment, and personnel problems (we all know which).

I'd thought about posting that on there but with reddit, unless you post in within about 5-10 minutes of a thread opening, you just end up buried at the bottom and there's no real chance for discussion, though I still like the website and use it frequently. I like hfboards too, as it happens.