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Canucks hire Adam Foote as head coach
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It appears to be both. Hate for the Canucks appears to be unfounded, particularly in relation to other teams. And as far as I know, no one has ever been found guilty of guilt by association. Some very good people have been related to some major f***-ups.
I would have been fine with Manny or Foote. Manny is all class and appears to be advancing up the ranks well, and I remember absolutely hating Foote when he was giving the Canucks fits when he was with the Avs. I know it's a different situation, but if he can apply that competitive and hard-working nature he had with the Avs and give other teams fits as the coach of the Canucks, then far f***ing out, man.
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Weird how people just dismiss how great of a job Foote has done with this defence.
32nd overall in Penalty Kill when he took over.
17th overall in PK in his 1st year in charge of the Defence
3rd overall in PK in his 2nd year in charge of the Defence
Do you know how hard that is to turn a 32nd rank team into a 3rd rank team. lol Canucks D core this year consisted of Vinny Deharnais and Noah Juulsen playing 35 games. Not to mention players like Soucy and Forbort who arent exactly household names.
32nd overall in Penalty Kill when he took over.
17th overall in PK in his 1st year in charge of the Defence
3rd overall in PK in his 2nd year in charge of the Defence
Do you know how hard that is to turn a 32nd rank team into a 3rd rank team. lol Canucks D core this year consisted of Vinny Deharnais and Noah Juulsen playing 35 games. Not to mention players like Soucy and Forbort who arent exactly household names.
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why is their GA/GP going up by 0.36 in one year doing "a great job with the defence"?
they went from 5th best to 18th best and that was the 4th largest percentage increase in GA/GP for any team in the NHL. only ones worse were boston, pittsburgh, and buffalo.
For the record I didn't even say anything about hating this hire, just why are you giving him 3 years from the get go? It's great teams are willing to give a shot to a new guy, f*** yes. But for 3 years? Is the owner ready to pay if he doesn't work out?
they went from having myers, pettersson, miller, bear, hughes, schenn, burroughs, horvat and aman as their top pk guys in 2022-23 to suter, blueger, myers, hronek, soucy, forbort, sherwood, heinen and garland in 2024-25
that's personnel as much as it is coaching
Maybe if you paid attention and watched games, you would see we have been playing without Demko for the whole season and had to rely on a backup goalie and Silovs who was terrible for us everytime he started. Not to mention injuries to Hronek and Hughes and at one point we had Juulsen and Desharnais playing in the top 4 at the same time. Foote is a great defensive coach but he is not Jesus to turn an injured D core composed of many AHL defenders playing in front of an AHL caliber goalie in Silovs into a playoff team. He showed how much he can improve our D once we got some competent defender in Marcus Pettersson. Being 3rd in PK knowing we played 3/4 of the season with AHL defenders and backup goalie is crazy work. But of course fans that don't watch our team and love to stat watch come up with biased and useless opinions based on ignorance
You forgot we played almost the entire year without Demko who is a top 3 goalie in the league. Also tell me who were our defenders in most of the games we played this year? Juulsen? Desharnais? Forbort? It's not necessarily a superstar lineup. The personnel change is true but it's not like we upgraded on some of those guys unless you think a guy like blueger is an upgrade on Horvat or Desharnais is better than Schenn. You need structure to improve the PK. There is a reason why Myers improved ten fold under Foote, that's not because of personnel change but due to a coaching change. Similar to Hughes who won Vezina under Foote being the defensive coach. There is a reason why Hughes and Myers love Adam Foote.
blueger is a huge upgrade on horvat with regards to the pk
i'm not talking about the team performance overall, just the pk
Well how do you know Horvat is terrible in PK?? Horvat was playing under garbage coaching first with Green and Nolan Baumgartner then Boudreau with both having terrible PK percentage. I think you forget players that improved under Foote and Gonchar and became better defenders. You aren't looking at the whole picture yet focusing on one little stat and taking it out of context
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I'd take Malhotra > Foote any day of the week.
I'm just saying, if you are grabbing a head coach that has a short resume of junior hockey, you can find better options with more success. Plus I don't really see why you would want to grab someone from this current coaching staff. At least Malhotra would have been coming from Abbotsford.
Experience wise there were better options but I think this came down to the fact Foote knew everything that went on internally and there was a certain appeal to that.
I mean people can say our GAA was up this year but that was simply the fact our SV% was under 900, our Dcorp was our best asset and goaltending should be much improved so the way I see it is we got the best part of the system and moved on from the worst.
Just my opinion.
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Most replies in this thread are just drive byes from all the salty types. They will find something to beak off about and if nothing else, a libelous dig at his son will do.
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care to quote exactly where the "biased and useless opinions based on ignorance" are in my post?
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Would've preferred to keep Toch obviously, but clearly his demands were too high and most likely he wanted out of this sh*tshow anyway. I like Foote and think this move is of personnel appeasing; hearing that he has a good rapport with Pettersson and Hughes.
BTW, is Jeff Finger still coaching? Can we please hire him just so we can say that we have Foote and Finger please?
BTW, is Jeff Finger still coaching? Can we please hire him just so we can say that we have Foote and Finger please?
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Please God, no.
I am cautiously optimistic with this. The only bright spot on the team was how well they did defensively and the play of the D core (with Hughes being a huge part of it) and that was largely because of Foote. Hughes' comments about Foote in February really do point to someone that I think would be a good head coach for this team.
He needs a damn good offense/powerplay assistant coach though. Even when healthy at the start of the year with a fairly high talent 5 man unit they were miserable and super predictable on the powerplay. If you watch Tocchet's intermission break down on TNT when he was on there in the past week everything he said he wanted to see were how the Canucks ran the powerplay (force it to the point, try to get a point shot through the traffic etc). And that just meant give it to Hughes and let him go 1 on 1 or often 1 on 2 and create a shooting lane despite being in a 5 on 4 scenario. It was a horrible way to run it and from Tocchets comments on TNT it (hopefully) seems like it was his influence that may have caused that... so maybe it wont be a thing under Foote (might be wishful thinking).
Luckily these are all things that Foote addressed in his presser today. Said he had some ideas to improve the offense, hopefully they are good ones and the offense coach is someone with some creativity.
You don't get it. Canucks wanted to retain both. Hiring Malhotra as HC means you lose Foote who was instrumental in our defensive structure and improved PK.
Biased because you are trying to use a stat to backup your narrative of why you think Foote is bad. Useless because you are taking a stat and talking about it out of context not mentioning why the stat might have been bad. Factors such as injuries, not playing with key defenders and number 1 goalie will obviously affect any team stat. When the year prior, with a healthier roster and their number 1 goalie, that stat was a lot better.
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