Rumor: Canucks going after Rossi?

[Canucks LB]

It really does seem like this is vancouvers only real play at center this offseason from reports, unless there is a special magical name nobody is talking about.

Rossi is a decent gamble, not the best fit, but a good upside bet

 

[AKL]

It really does seem like this is vancouvers only real play at center this offseason from reports, unless there is a special magical name nobody is talking about.

Rossi is a decent gamble, not the best fit, but a good upside bet

Not sure how real it is when your only offer is the 15th pick and a prospect. Guerin can't afford to make the team worse, which means he either needs to already have a plan to flip those pieces for a roster player, or he needs to trade Rossi for one to start with. And we already have reports of way more teams trying to add to the roster, not subtract, which means not many roster players are available for picks and prospects.

 

[Canucks LB]

Not sure how real it is when your only offer is the 15th pick and a prospect. Guerin can't afford to make the team worse, which means he either needs to already have a plan to flip those pieces for a roster player, or he needs to trade Rossi for one to start with. And we already have reports of way more teams trying to add to the roster, not subtract, which means not many roster players are available for picks and prospects.

Well apparently canucks might make garland available, and hes been real good for vancouver, and just had a big worlds as well.

Seems like a good player to add in a deal for rossi?

 

[AKL]

Well apparently canucks might make garland available, and hes been real good for vancouver, and just had a big worlds as well.

Seems like a good player to add in a deal for rossi?

I don't want him, but I can't speak for Guerin

 

[Canucks LB]

I don't want him, but I can't speak for Guerin

He would fit wild really well, gritty guy, plays way above his size, hes like a winger version of Bennett

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Well apparently canucks might make garland available, and hes been real good for vancouver, and just had a big worlds as well.

Seems like a good player to add in a deal for rossi?

lol- if they’re getting rid of Rossi for being small then Garland ain’t going the other way.

Myers, however..

 

[Canucks LB]

lol- if they’re getting rid of Rossi for being small then Garland ain’t going the other way.

Myers, however..

Myers is not a physical guy.
Also Myers has been way better recently, could be available, but hes also the biggest mentor on the team and a huge friend of Hughes, I doubt we get rid of him this year anyway.
Garland is small but plays big

 

[Fatass]

It really does seem like this is vancouvers only real play at center this offseason from reports, unless there is a special magical name nobody is talking about.

Rossi is a decent gamble, not the best fit, but a good upside bet

Deal is already done imo. Just waiting for the Calder Cup to be awarded

 

[Fatass]

Myers is not a physical guy.
Also Myers has been way better recently, could be available, but hes also the biggest mentor on the team and a huge friend of Hughes, I doubt we get rid of him this year anyway.
Garland is small but plays big

Myers is a Calder winner.

 

[Canucks LB]

Deal is already done imo. Just waiting for the Calder Cup to be awarded

A lot of people think that, including our holy lord @Vector

 

[Canucks LB]

Myers is a Calder winner.

This is also true, You are on fire good sir

 

[Hockeyfan200]

You absolutely can, its called precedent, perhaps look up the word?

Also you guys don't want to re-sign him because he wants too much money, yah, that's completely different than cap issues........

It's different than Cap issues. Again, where Canucks are misinformed is, wild don't have to trade him and it's why reports are now saying wild are leaning towards keeping him Unless they can a player like Kadri. You can't use Fiala as a comparison, whose different ball game

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Sure seems like this is already a done deal. Just waiting for the Calder and Stanley Cups to be awarded before announcing.
Looks like a grade both fan groups will hate, so likely fair.

Not supported at all. Only Canucks fans have this idea it's done where there's no proof at all. Canucks have nothing right now Minnesota wants unless they change their mind about trading EP. Don't know what you refuse to accept wild aren't looking or wanting picks and prospects for Rossi.

 

[Canucks LB]

It's different than Cap issues. Again, where Canucks are misinformed is, wild don't have to trade him and it's why reports are now saying wild are leaning towards keeping him Unless they can a player like Kadri. You can't use Fiala as a comparison, whose different ball game

Where are the reports that the wild are leaning towards keeping?
I have not seen that

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Where are the reports that the wild are leaning towards keeping?
I have not seen that

The one russo released the other day saying wild will essentially Keep Rossi unless they get a player like N.Kadri from Calgary and that Wild will not do picks. They only way they will accept picks is id a deal is done for another win now C but because no team is willing to sell, Wild will not trade Rossi and make the roster worse

 

[Fatass]

Not supported at all. Only Canucks fans have this idea it's done where there's no proof at all. Canucks have nothing right now Minnesota wants unless they change their mind about trading EP. Don't know what you refuse to accept wild aren't looking or wanting picks and prospects for Rossi.

Are you suggesting Geutin is so dim witted he’s not capable of acquit assets in a Rossi trade and the flipping them for the type of player he wants? Or are you saying Geurin is obtuse and will go for a lesser trade value providing it’s a plug and play guy?

 

[Fatass]

The one russo released the other day saying wild will essentially Keep Rossi unless they get a player like N.Kadri from Calgary and that Wild will not do picks. They only way they will accept picks is id a deal is done for another win now C but because no team is willing to sell, Wild will not trade Rossi and make the not Geurin’d roster worse

Not Geurins concerning this matter. It’s up to Rossi. If Geurin does want to keep Rossi then he needs to go to fifty million.

 

[AKL]

Where are the reports that the wild are leaning towards keeping?
I have not seen that

It's not a report saying they're leaning towards keeping him now, it's a report from Russo speculating that because the UFA centers are starting to get snatched up (Nelson, Bennett likely), they may want to focus on signing him because they can't blow a hole down the middle of the lineup.

Marco Rossi’s contract situation with the Wild has become more complicated

Bill Guerin's goals for the Wild's offseason may be hampered by developments around the league.

www.nytimes.com

Before, the Wild may have entertained trading Rossi, a pending restricted free agent who is seeking a long-term contract, for a scoring winger. Now it’s hard to trade a young center without getting a center back in that deal or a subsequent one.

Guerin made it clear after the season that upgrading the center position — and getting help for Joel Eriksson Ek — was the team’s biggest need this summer. He has to know by now that if the Wild trade Rossi, the team’s second-leading scorer last season, without getting a top-six center elsewhere, the team would be significantly weaker up the middle even with the expected addition of touted prospect Danila Yurov.

Guerin told The Athletic before the Stanley Cup Final that if he traded Rossi or anybody else, he didn’t want to make his team worse. And since trading Rossi would lead to a removal of at least a 20-goal, 60-point scorer, Guerin’s words probably mean he wants a solid player back for Rossi, not futures.

If Guerin doesn’t get what he wants for Rossi, would he ever circle back and offer Rossi a two- or three-year deal at a high AAV north of $5.5 million or $6 million, similar to what the Carolina Hurricanes did with Martin Necas last summer?
......
So if Guerin can’t find the right deal, is there a chance he and agent Ian Pulver could come to a similar resolution?

Again, it's basically down to, if the Wild can't figure out a replacement for Rossi, there may not be a trade to be made.

Nelson is signed, Bennett is going to sign, Duchene wants to stay in Dallas, Tavares wants to stay in Toronto, there are no free agent centers left after that. Rossi is the best trade chip we have, if you need a top six center, it makes little sense to trade him for some wingers.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Are you suggesting Geutin is so dim witted he’s not capable of acquit assets in a Rossi trade and the flipping them for the type of player he wants? Or are you saying Geurin is obtuse and will go for a lesser trade value providing it’s a plug and play guy?

How many times are you going to do this bait stuff that you do?

 

[AKL]

Are you suggesting Geutin is so dim witted he’s not capable of acquit assets in a Rossi trade and the flipping them for the type of player he wants? Or are you saying Geurin is obtuse and will go for a lesser trade value providing it’s a plug and play guy?

Why do you assume there's a deal Guerin can flip the pieces for? Don't you think that's a pretty significant part of the "trade Rossi for futures and then flip the futures" equation?

It's like you guys think you're the only team in the league Rossi can go to or something and the Wild just have to take whatever you're okay with sending.

 

[AKL]

The only report that we even have regarding Rossi and Vancouver is that Vancouver really wants him, we don't have anything even remotely alluding to Minnesota wanting anything Vancouver has, we just have a bunch of Vancouver fans who assume they're going to get him because they want him, regardless of the fact that they can't offer what Minnesota is reportedly looking for.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

It's different than Cap issues. Again, where Canucks are misinformed is, wild don't have to trade him and it's why reports are now saying wild are leaning towards keeping him Unless they can a player like Kadri. You can't use Fiala as a comparison, whose different ball game

It's in the same realm and doesn't (in any way) change the precedent set by the trade.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

The only report that we even have regarding Rossi and Vancouver is that Vancouver really wants him, we don't have anything even remotely alluding to Minnesota wanting anything Vancouver has, we just have a bunch of Vancouver fans who assume they're going to get him because they want him, regardless of the fact that they can't offer what Minnesota is reportedly looking for.

We are apparently the only team with serious interest at least that is what we are hearing on our end, I honestly don't want the player and hope he stays with Minny or goes somewhere else.

 

[f7ben]

I want Harley Quinn Margot, or maybe The Big Short cameo Margot...

Yah she hot

 

[AKL]

We are apparently the only team with serious interest at least that is what we are hearing on our end, I honestly don't want the player and hope he stays with Minny or goes somewhere else.

I don't know how "your end" would know that without anyone else knowing it