Rumor: Canucks going after Rossi?

[lawrence]

Exactly. So, if Vancouver wants Rossi, they need to offer something the Wild actually want. Not garbage like a mid 1st in this trash draft and bottom of the lineup players/prospects.

90-95% of Wild fans would do the 7x7 proposal from Rossi’s camp. That’s the tippy top of what I’m personally comfortable with. I’d haggle my way to 7x6-6.5

Why doesn’t Minnesota keep him if he was that good.

 

[Fatass]

You're wrong about the 2nd. It's not just wild fans saying. It's literally been reported by many different beat writers including Canadian beat writers like Julia M who says Wild want players back, not Picks.

Want is a lot different than what’s offered. I can want a Ferrari. But that doesn’t mean it’s being offered for what I’ve got to trade.
It’s up to Geurin, not us, to decide whether he’s going to accept the best offer out there for Rossi or he sits on the pkayer.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

What I want doesn’t matter in the real world. As does what you want matter in the real world. All we, as fans, can do is speculate. Imo Van is interested in Rossi. They have a ceiling on the price they will pay though. I’m also speculating that Geurin, who isn’t an idiot, is smart enough to accept a fair offer for Rossi (even though futures) and use that as the foundation for a trade to get the type of player he prefers, a centre much bigger than Rossi. IMO Geurin is not going to waste Rossi as a trade asset or sitting out.

If reports are to be believed, not many teams are in the 'trade a 2nd line center for the 15th pick game'.

That being the plan would be risky as hell.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Geurin get Fabre for Fiala?

Yeah, 1st+Faber for Fiala. Kinda like 1st+Lekkerimäki for Rossi, as suggested earlier. Thanks for playing.

 

[AKL]

You keep saying “it’s not up to us” while ignoring the actual reporting lol…

Bingo @Fatass

Can't keep saying it's not up to us and what we think doesn't matter and then ignore what's actually being reported to push what you think

 

[ctmagic]

Imo Van does like Rossi. But they for sure have a ceiling of cost. All clubs will have a ceiling of cost. If that ceiling is below Geurin’s floor (I hope it’s not) then they’ll will move on.

I think teams right now are kicking the tires on Rossi, looking for a discount after his end of season woes, as they should. And BG is holding tight to where he feels a 60pt 2C’s value is, as he should. This is the game they play. Eventually someone will go all in on Rossi or we will just keep him for the time being.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

And is there any rumour that deal is available? I don’t see one. Which leads us to believe Geurin either accepts what’s offered now and adds to those assets to get the type of player he prefers (a bigger bodied centre) or he sits on Rossi. IMO he’s not going to sit.

“It’s not up to us.”
*poster points out that Guerin doesn’t want this*
“Well, he’s not going get that so he has to take our lowball futures offer”

The lack of self awareness is simply incredible.

 

[AKL]

Why doesn’t Minnesota keep him if he was that good.

Because the one guy that doesn't want him at that price is the guy that happens to be in charge, that doesn't make him right

 

[Fatass]

So now we are compounding a lousy return by needing to add more assets to it? Gee, that sounds incredibly…. What was the word you used? Oh yeah. Stupid.

You keep saying “it’s not up to us” while ignoring the actual reporting lol…

Are you suggesting it is up to us?
We can speculate what the GMs want and will do. We can quote different media to support our speculation. But really it’s our opinion, no?
Imo Van would go to a ceiling if 15OA + Lekkerimaki for Rossi + 3rd. That’s what I think. Geurin might accept and use those acquired assets (and add) to get the type of centre he wants, which is obviously a bigger guy.
No one knows except for the actual GMs.

 

[lawrence]

1st+Lekkerimäki for Rossi,

former top 9 pick whois 23 years old put up 60 points. Why are you trading him? you should be keeping him. Keep him man. 7x7 is worth

Because the one guy that doesn't want him at that price is the guy that happens to be in charge,

what makes you think Alvin is ok with 7x7 for Rossi.

 

[AKL]

Geurin might accept and use those acquired assets (and add) to get the type of centre he wants, which is obviously a bigger guy.
No one knows except for the actual GMs.

Yeah and Vancouver might trade Pettersson for Rossi, Trenin and a 2nd, so I think we should talk about that next

 

[Fatass]

Bingo @Fatass

Can't keep saying it's not up to us and what we think doesn't matter and then ignore what's actually being reported to push what you think

“Being reported”. Is that fact?

 

[DigitalBoldy]

for me the thing that has gotten under my skin with Bill Guerin, the environment where rookies are scared to make mistakes, and veterans can make mistakes/ play like crap but never get punished. Also, his signings and trades for 4th liners, I've had enough. Also, I have been with John Hynes and the leash he gives to veterans

This is just not true.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I didn’t mention Fiala

Everything stems back to trading Fiala.

 

[AKL]

“Being reported”. Is that fact?

So we're back to inserting our own opinion and what we think should happen, we're just presenting it as "the GM might do this"

Rossi, Trenin, 2nd for Pettersson

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Everything stems back to trading Fiala.

Draft Faber.
Draft Knies.
Get rid of Dumba.
Keep Fiala.

Our team kicks ass right now.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

This is just not true.

I just think we're kind of see the same old stuff. Maybe I am wrong, but didn't a young player speak about this?

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Are you suggesting it is up to us?
We can speculate what the GMs want and will do. We can quote different media to support our speculation. But really it’s our opinion, no?
Imo Van would go to a ceiling if 15OA + Lekkerimaki for Rossi + 3rd. That’s what I think. Geurin might accept and use those acquired assets (and add) to get the type of centre he wants, which is obviously a bigger guy.
No one knows except for the actual GMs.

You do get this media reports is because they get it form sources right? Not an opinion

 

[Fatass]

So we're back to inserting our own opinion and what we think should happen, we're just presenting it as "the GM might do this"

Rossi, Trenin, 2nd for Pettersson

Yes! We are fans on a hockey chat site trying to have fun speculating about trades. It’s highly unlikely our ideas come to fruition. Im hoping if Van does trade for Rossi it’s a fair trade for both clubs. Imo those are the types of trades GMs are trying to make. They want what’s fair. Any Gzm who isn’t interested in fairness won’t have trade partners. I guess that’s the same for us?

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Yes! We are fans on a hockey chat site trying to have fun speculating about trades. It’s highly unlikely our ideas come to fruition. Im hoping if Van does trade for Rossi it’s a fair trade for both clubs. Imo those are the types of trades GMs are trying to make. They want what’s fair. Any Gzm who isn’t interested in fairness won’t have trade partners. I guess that’s the same for us?

Fairness isn't accepting whatever is being offered. Also, when Canucks fans point out Bill Guerin and Jim R knows each other, they have made exactly one deal since Bill Guerin became GM and that was with Pittsburgh.

 

[Fatass]

Fairness isn't accepting whatever is being offered. Also, when Canucks fans point out Bill Guerin and Jim R knows each other, they have made exactly one deal since Bill Guerin became GM and that was with Pittsburgh.

I don’t disagree. Fairness (imo) is what two good nhl GMs agree to in a trade. We, as fans of our clubs might hate the deal. But usually, when those deals are made, it’s pretty fair for both clubs.

 

[Bruhtherford]

Eventually someone will go all in on Rossi or we will just keep him for the time being.

Or the Wild will cave and trade him for less than desired because there are no better trade options and they nor he want him to stay in MIN and decrease his value.

Not saying that will happen but you guys seem to be ignoring door #3.

Your team gave your 60pt center minimal ice time in the playoffs. They dont seem willing to pay the player what he thinks hes worth. There's reporting that the front office and Rossi are at odds. Sometimes gms back themselves into a corner and make bad moves.

You all seem to think the team should get what the league should think hes worth, rather than what the Wild seem to think he is worth based on their usage and contract offers. There's very little to suggest there's a ton of aggressive competing offers for him.

Yes the Wild can just keep him but we are at this point because they dont seem to want to do that.

There is a 3rd option. You dont like it but it is still a possibility.

And no, we arent negotiating here - just arguing over tea leaves.

 

[AKL]

Yes the Wild can just keep him but we are at this point because they dont seem to want to do that.

I don't know where this idea comes from when all reports say they aren't dying to trade him and won't make the team worse to do so.

To me that indicates that he's staying here if Guerin doesn't get what he wants in return.

I'm struggling to interpret that as meaning he'll just trade him for the best offer he gets even if it sucks.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Ooof these offers. I don't think I'd trade Lekkerimäki straight-up for Rossi.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Ooof these offers. I don't think I'd trade Lekkerimäki straight-up for Rossi.

He is taller...