No.Would Minnesota consider #15, Chytil or Blugers and Mynio?
No.Would Minnesota consider #15, Chytil or Blugers and Mynio?
I guess the trade will be later. This draft sucks. We don’t want your mid 1st and spare parts.Your own GM does not want to budge on negotiations and is actively (and has been for a while) shopping him across the league. The coaching staff and management team also don’t believe in him as someone that can succeed in the playoffs.
I’m just operating in reality here. Your own organization seems to want to move on from him. Sure, there’s a chance he stays but it’s like the Necas situation. If he stays, it’ll be a bridge deal and then he’ll likely get traded next year.
When teams fracture their relationship with the players to this extent, it almost never works out.
The trade is pretty much inevitable… whether now or later. If Rossi is stapled to the 4th line in the next playoffs, I think his trade value is going to dip even moreso.
The 2026 pick is worth so much more than the #15+trash that Vancouver fans seem to be bringing to the discussion. You want to give us your unprotected 2026 1st via offersheet, you do you.Are any other teams offering a 1st+ top 20 prospect? Ultimately it comes down to how much Guerin wants to move on/avoid an offer sheet and how much Vancouver is willing to spend to acquire Rossi.
Nobody’s gonna give you an unprotected 2026 first rounder for Marco rossiThe 2026 pick is worth so much more than the #15+trash that Vancouver fans seem to be bringing to the discussion. You want to give us your unprotected 2026 1st via offersheet, you do you.
Exactly. So, if Vancouver wants Rossi, they need to offer something the Wild actually want. Not garbage like a mid 1st in this trash draft and bottom of the lineup players/prospects.Nobody’s gonna give you an unprotected 2026 first rounder for Marco rossi
I don’t think Geurin would trade Rossi for futures unless he already had an agreed to deal for the player he wants using those futures, either in part or whole. His decision comes down to whether he holds out on a Rossi deal for all the assets the other GM wants for the player Geurin wants, or he adds what’s needs to to pot. I don’t see him letting Rossi sit. Like you say that’s the worst. Rossi is too important to the club to sit. And the player Rossi could return (either directly or indirectly) is too important too.I mean just look at the reports we've seen. Everyone wants to use their new cap space to improve the roster. No one wants to get worse as of now, except Pittsburgh. There's going to be an abundance of futures available and a relative lack of established NHL talent. We've already heard he's talked to several teams about several players, and they've all said "no thanks, we want to add, not subtract". Even the NY Islanders said Horvat and Barzal aren't available because they want a quick turn around.
Trading Rossi for futures and then flipping the futures sounds okay in theory, but there's very little out there at this point to actually make that a reality.
So it's pretty hard to say he can trade Rossi for futures, because again, he can't afford to make this team worse by flipping Rossi for futures and then not being able to flip the futures. That is a borderline fireable offense for this GM at this time, given he's already wasted 5+ years here, and this was the year he was finally supposed to have built a team that shows it can be a contender moving forward.
Imo Van does like Rossi. But they for sure have a ceiling of cost. All clubs will have a ceiling of cost. If that ceiling is below Geurin’s floor (I hope it’s not) then they’ll will move on.Exactly. So, if Vancouver wants Rossi, they need to offer something the Wild actually want. Not garbage like a mid 1st in this trash draft and bottom of the lineup players/prospects.
I’m not talking about a Vancouver offer sheet, I’m talking about some other team with a potentially much later 1st.That’s a real possibility.The 2026 pick is worth so much more than the #15+trash that Vancouver fans seem to be bringing to the discussion. You want to give us your unprotected 2026 1st via offersheet, you do you.
Would it be 7 mil x five years that results in the 2026 first and third? I wonder if Geurin just matches? It’s five years at 7 per. Not the two years at six he’s rumoured to be preferring, but still kind of a fair compromise.I’m not talking about a Vancouver offer sheet, I’m talking about some other team with a potentially much later 1st.That’s a real possibility.
Like who?I’m not talking about a Vancouver offer sheet, I’m talking about some other team with a potentially much later 1st.That’s a real possibility.
According the posted rumours in this thread there’s only one club (up here) with any serious interest. And it’s doubtful the management for that club would go either an offer sheet. Not too sure of the interest down south.Like who?
They would fly under the radar haha.A Hoglander - Rossi - Garland line is the type of stuff dreams are made of. No one would be on their level.
There isn’t a team. It’s false threats to try and get the Wild to lower their price.According the posted rumours in this thread there’s only one club (up here) with any serious interest. And it’s doubtful the management for that club would go either an offer sheet. Not too sure of the interest down south.
The “Yellow Brick Road” line.A Hoglander - Rossi - Garland line is the type of stuff dreams are made of. No one would be on their level.
I’m thinking the league’s GMs don’t pay much attention to us on HF or to media. If a GM does do that, he’s a friggin’ idiot.There isn’t a team. It’s false threats to try and get the Wild to lower their price.
If he was that good why don’t you keep him. I’m not getting fooled. I don’t buy the 60 point benchmark as some desperate Canucks fans are. There’s a bigger picture to this, we see it you see it too. If he was that good they would keep him.Exactly. So, if Vancouver wants Rossi, they need to offer something the Wild actually want. Not garbage like a mid 1st in this trash draft and bottom of the lineup players/prospects.
Hey now, we ran Kaprizov - Rossi - Zuccarello for quite a while and it was all good.A Hoglander - Rossi - Garland line is the type of stuff dreams are made of. No one would be on their level.
If the fans see it, then obviously the scouts (who advise the GMs) see it.If he was that good why don’t you keep him. I’m not getting fooled. I don’t buy the 60 point benchmark as some desperate Canucks fans are. There’s a bigger picture to this, we see it you see it too. If he was that good they would keep him.
No, I mean if any team is using an offersheet as a threat. There isn’t a team that will offersheet him at $7M AAV where it wouldn’t be at least a little intriguing to have their unprotected 1st.I’m thinking the league’s GMs don’t pay much attention to us on HF or to media. If a GM does do that, he’s a friggin’ idiot.
Don’t even want the 2025 1st anymore. Make it the 2026.If the fans see it, then obviously the scouts (who advise the GMs) see it.
Still, any trade should be fair to both clubs.
Imo 15 OA and a good prospect is fair.
90-95% of Wild fans would do the 7x7 proposal from Rossi’s camp. That’s the tippy top of what I’m personally comfortable with. I’d haggle my way to 7x6-6.5If he was that good why don’t you keep him. I’m not getting fooled. I don’t buy the 60 point benchmark as some desperate Canucks fans are. There’s a bigger picture to this, we see it you see it too. If he was that good they would keep him.