Rumor: Canucks going after Rossi?

[TageGod]

Would we do Rossi for 9? Is MIN going to sell him or swap him for a roster guy?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Would we do Rossi for 9? Is MIN going to sell him or swap him for a roster guy?

I could see it being possible in the moment, depending on how the first 8 picks shake out. Seems like more of our (Minnesota's) Plan C or D though.

 

[57special]

I doubt the Wild would say no to #15+Lekkerimäki. Word on the street is they might prefer a 2026 pick. Any interest in 2026 1st (top 10 protected) + Lekkerimäki for Rossi?

I doubt your doubt. Lekkerimaki is a good, skilled prospect, but he is by no mean physical. Can't see Guerin being enthused about getting him. If he is, i'd have to wonder why he wanted to trade Rossi in the 1st place.

Guerin's seat will be getting very warm if the team doesn't make some noise in the playoffs next season. Lekkerimaki and a 15th may eventually be a nice return, but but that won't help BG if he is fired for not getting a playoff series win in 25-26.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I doubt your doubt. Lekkerimaki is a good, skilled prospect, but he is by no mean physical. Can't see Guerin being enthused about getting him. If he is, i'd have to wonder why he wanted to trade Rossi in the 1st place.

Guerin's seat will be getting very warm if the team doesn't make some noise in the playoffs next season. Lekkerimaki and a 15th may eventually be a nice return, but but that won't help BG if he is fired for not getting a playoff series win in 25-26.

Lekkerimäki plays a position that doesn’t require as much physicality. See: Zuccarello, Johansson, Nyquist, etc.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Lekkerimäki plays a position that doesn’t require as much physicality. See: Zuccarello, Johansson, Nyquist, etc.

If the nucks are decided on a 2c over giving Chytil a shot, 15th and Lekkerimakki for Rossi, seems pretty fair.

 

[Peter Griffin]

If the nucks are decided on a 2c over giving Chytil a shot, 15th and Lekkerimakki for Rossi, seems pretty fair.

Chytil might be better suited at wing anyway.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

If the nucks are decided on a 2c over giving Chytil a shot, 15th and Lekkerimakki for Rossi, seems pretty fair.

No, it really doesn't seem fair. Wild are seeking a win now player like Peterka,. with Brock Nelson being off the marker now, apparently wild have shifted to seeking a Ready now C or a C that can help them compete now. The 15th pick in this draft isn't good, and unless wild can get a deal already agreed to, it's a no.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

No, it really doesn't seem fair. Wild are seeking a win now player like Peterka,. with Brock Nelson being off the marker now, apparently wild have shifted to seeking a Ready now C or a C that can help them compete now. The 15th pick in this draft isn't good, and unless wild can get a deal already agreed to, it's a no.

I wouldn’t dismiss this offer. It follows the exact same type of deal as the Fiala trade.

 

[IAHockey25]

I doubt your doubt. Lekkerimaki is a good, skilled prospect, but he is by no mean physical. Can't see Guerin being enthused about getting him. If he is, i'd have to wonder why he wanted to trade Rossi in the 1st place.

Guerin's seat will be getting very warm if the team doesn't make some noise in the playoffs next season. Lekkerimaki and a 15th may eventually be a nice return, but but that won't help BG if he is fired for not getting a playoff series win in 25-26.

Size down the middle is a lot different then size on the wings

 

[57special]

Size down the middle is a lot different then size on the wings

I don't agree. Make sure you have at least one guy with size or above average physical play on each line. It doesn't matter what position all that much. It could be argued that you need more size on the wing because they are involved in more board battles.

The truth about this situation is that Rossi is the best scoring C at his age that MN has ever had, and that they would be crazy to trade him unless they get a point scoring C back. The odds are that Rossi will score more than 60 pts. multiple times over the rest of his career. You don't throw that away on an offense starved team because your GM is obsessed with his tape measure. They have JEE to take the tough defensive matchups, anyway.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

I don't agree. Make sure you have at least one guy with size or above average physical play on each line. It doesn't matter what position all that much. It could be argued that you need more size on the wing because they are involved in more board battles.

The truth about this situation is that Rossi is the best scoring C at his age that MN has ever had, and that they would be crazy to trade him unless they get a point scoring C back. The odds are that Rossi will score more than 60 pts. multiple times over the rest of his career. You don't throw that away on an offense starved team because your GM is obsessed with his tape measure. They have JEE to take the tough defensive matchups, anyway.

It should actually be a limit of 1 small guy per line. I flat out disagree that size is more important on the wings too. The center is the guy battling in the prime scoring areas in the defensive zone. Way more important than losing a battle along the boards.

The truth about the situation is that Rossi’s best attributes are built to be that of a winger. He could easily be a top 6 or even top line winger. Wild fans are just insistent that he needs to play center, while ignoring the responsibilities of the center role. It’s been how many years since prime Koivu? Some of you may have forgotten what a real quality two way center looks like.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

No, it really doesn't seem fair. Wild are seeking a win now player like Peterka,. with Brock Nelson being off the marker now, apparently wild have shifted to seeking a Ready now C or a C that can help them compete now. The 15th pick in this draft isn't good, and unless wild can get a deal already agreed to, it's a no.

What you want and what you'll get are obviously two very different things here.

 

[MK9]

What you want and what you'll get are obviously two very different things here.

Same could be said for whoever the other team is.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Same could be said for whoever the other team is.

Sure, except the position of strength surely isn't the team looking to trade the player. Using the Fiala trade as a precedent is absolutely acceptable here.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

Sure, except the position of strength surely isn't the team looking to trade the player. Using the Fiala trade as a precedent is absolutely acceptable here.

Fiala was traded because of capspace issues, respectively you’re wrong in terms of you can’t use the fiala trade comparison for this.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Sure, except the position of strength surely isn't the team looking to trade the player. Using the Fiala trade as a precedent is absolutely acceptable here.

So a blue chip prospect and a top 20 pick

Honestly, Minnesota and Vancouver don't make great trade partners.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Fiala was traded because of capspace issues, respectively you’re wrong in terms of you can’t use the fiala trade comparison for this.

1st+Lekkerimäki is not a bad offer. We should always be looking for the best value.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

1st+Lekkerimäki is not a bad offer. We should always be looking for the best value.

Didn't you guys draft his buddy? They had some pretty good numbers in Sweden together.

Not really to familiar with the whole situation involving Rossi but if it's true that he wants a certain amount and the wild don't see him at that value, then it's fair to say acquiring teams might also be weary if that number which limits the number of teams.
The 15th and a former 15th who has displayed great numbers as he's progressed the last two years and is very capable of becoming a legit #1 winger, is not a bad package at all.
I'd even throw in Joshua who to me seems like a "wild type of player" but with the nucks needing cap space and how are depth chart lies, is expendable IMHO.

 

[beachcomber]

Yah, let’s make the Canucks even smaller and softer than they already are. Brilliant.

 

[Qwijibo]

Didn't you guys draft his buddy? They had some pretty good numbers in Sweden together.

Not really to familiar with the whole situation involving Rossi but if it's true that he wants a certain amount and the wild don't see him at that value, then it's fair to say acquiring teams might also be weary if that number which limits the number of teams.
The 15th and a former 15th who has displayed great numbers as he's progressed the last two years and is very capable of becoming a legit #1 winger, is not a bad package at all.
I'd even throw in Joshua who to me seems like a "wild type of player" but with the nucks needing cap space and how are depth chart lies, is expendable IMHO.

I'm not sure I'd term Lekkerimaki's numbers in the AHL as "great" they're ok. But certainly not great. Also, Joshua doesn't hold much value because of his contract. He got paid on the basis of an outlier year abd it remains to be seen if he can come close to replicating it.

 

[Hockeyfan200]

W

1st+Lekkerimäki is not a bad offer. We should always be looking for the best value.

With Brock Nelson off the market now, mn has to get back a C instead of a winger prospect. Respectfully, I am tired of bringing prospects or players because they have a former teammate on wild. I get where youre coming from, but unless a top 5 prospect falls or top 7, wild should look elsewhere.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Didn't you guys draft his buddy? They had some pretty good numbers in Sweden together.

Not really to familiar with the whole situation involving Rossi but if it's true that he wants a certain amount and the wild don't see him at that value, then it's fair to say acquiring teams might also be weary if that number which limits the number of teams.
The 15th and a former 15th who has displayed great numbers as he's progressed the last two years and is very capable of becoming a legit #1 winger, is not a bad package at all.
I'd even throw in Joshua who to me seems like a "wild type of player" but with the nucks needing cap space and how are depth chart lies, is expendable IMHO.

Yeah, my goal is to pair Öhgren and Eriksson Ek with Lekkerimäki.

Can’t see the Wild wanting Joshua when we already have Trenin.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

I'm not sure I'd term Lekkerimaki's numbers in the AHL as "great" they're ok. But certainly not great. Also, Joshua doesn't hold much value because of his contract. He got paid on the basis of an outlier year abd it remains to be seen if he can come close to replicating it.

Lekkerimakki had 19 goals and 28 points in 36 games as a 19-20 year old, those are great numbers imo.

It's fair to Question if Joshua can replicate the numbers he put up earning him his 3.5 million dollar contract but given his situation with cancer, he gets a pass on last season.
His floor is 15-15 while being an excellent pker and with where the cap is going his contract even at his floor, is at worst just ok but doesn't need to be included, I just figured he would be a decent add.
Another pick or lesser prospect could also be included

Rossi being younger adds to his value but when you look at what other Center's like Horvat who returned a 1st and Raty while being a much more proven and successful player, or an older but much more dynamic 1C in JT returned, a first and a top prospect, seems on point.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

W

With Brock Nelson off the market now, mn has to get back a C instead of a winger prospect. Respectfully, I am tired of bringing prospects or players because they have a former teammate on wild. I get where youre coming from, but unless a top 5 prospect falls or top 7, wild should look elsewhere.

Do we though? So you’d rather do Rossi for someone like Hayton than Rossi for #15+Lekkerimäki?

We can always flip the pick in a package for a player.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Do we though? So you’d rather do Rossi for someone like Hayton than Rossi for #15+Lekkerimäki?

We can always flip the pick in a package for a player.

This draft doesn't seem like one where you'd trade for the #15 pick right now.