Speculation: Canucks Elias Pettersson on the move? Nucks GM speaks out

[My Cozen Dylan]

Buffalo wouldn't be giving up Byram and Cozens for EP. Its one or the other plus prospect/picks

I'd be stunned if we got him for less.

 

[eviohh26]

Would Vancouver entertain draft picks or prospects, or are they after talent right now?

Both. But I cannot see a Petey trade going down.

IMO Miller would be more likely to be moved. I expect nothing to happen though .

 

[Bouboumaster]

Both. But I cannot see a Petey trade going down.

IMO Miller would be more likely to be moved. I expect nothing to happen though .

Habs 2025 1st + Calgary 2025 1st, as a base?
We could add a piece not named Demidov as a + if needed
Or another pick
Getting Petterson would mean no more rebuild for us anyway

We could have next year

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Demidov - Petterson - Laine
Newhook - Dach - Gallagher
Heinemann - Evans - Armia

Which is pretty stacked IMO

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Van are not trading Pettersson for futures. That means they are keeping Miller who is 31. They are in win now mode. They were close to trading Pettersson for Necas last year. That's the type of trade you're looking at.

 

[pomx]

He gone

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Nucks fans :

 

[eviohh26]

Habs 2025 1st + Calgary 2025 1st, as a base?
We could add a piece not named Demidov as a + if needed
Or another pick
Getting Petterson would mean no more rebuild for us anyway

We could have next year

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Demidov - Petterson - Laine
Newhook - Dach - Gallagher
Heinemann - Evans - Armia

Which is pretty stacked IMO

If we were rebuilding then possibly . But we are not rebuilding so I'd have to say no.

IF Petey were to be traded it would be for a package that could help the team now. Not tomorrow .

No different than the Eichel Trade - Cozens+prospect+pick

Pettersson is so good you are trying to get rid of him.

Eichel had a high of 82 points and wanted off the team. They are not the same .

 

[Zilo44]

If we were rebuilding then possibly . But we are not rebuilding so I'd have to say no.

IF Petey were to be traded it would be for a package that could help the team now. Not tomorrow .


Eichel had a high of 82 points and wanted off the team. They are not the same .

Caufield + CGy 1st

 

[eviohh26]

Caufield + CGy 1st

I'd say no. I'm also in the boat of not wanting to trade petey so .

 

[ManByng]

Would love him in Dallas but the return would be PTSD inducing

It would cost you Wyatt Johnson at the very least

 

[Jay26]

Wow, you’d still offer that? I’d think Canes would say absolutely not w how well Necas is playing.

I think they'd still offer that because Pettersson with a change of scenery is a game changer that comes around once in a blue moon (like a Joe Thornton). With a change of scenery he's likely back to being a 100 point franchise two way centre. I'm scared shitless to trade him even if I'm equally down on him as a Canuck. It's a weird dynamic. We shouldn't even be having this conversation, but alas....

 

[ManByng]

Van are not trading Pettersson for futures. That means they are keeping Miller who is 31. They are in win now mode. They were close to trading Pettersson for Necas last year. That's the type of trade you're looking at.

Deals for players like Necas, Nick Suzuki, Dylan Cozens and the like would be starting points for a team not rebuilding. I believe it’s not the end of the world if they score one of these guys or another that will help maintain the winning in Vancouver!

 

[Habs7631]

What about a trade with Montreal on draft night? Depending on where our 1st land after the draft lottery, a package around our 1st+++, would that work for Vancouver?

Obviously the higher our pick land the less we’d have to add. Dach+Matheson+Dvorak to make the money work. Dvorak 4.5M contract is expiring so that would give Vancouver cap space right away for free agency/help re-sign Boeser/Hughes.

Say pick #5-10, Dach, Matheson, Dvorak, Michael Hage and Adam Engstrom?

 

[iFan]

What about a trade with Montreal on draft night? Depending on where our 1st land after the draft lottery, a package around our 1st+++, would that work for Vancouver?

Obviously the higher our pick land the less we’d have to add. Dach+Matheson+Dvorak to make the money work. Dvorak 4.5M contract is expiring so that would give Vancouver cap space right away for free agency/help re-sign Boeser/Hughes.

Say pick #5-10, Dach, Matheson, Dvorak, Michael Hage and Adam Engstrom?

Draft picks don’t work, we want to be competitive well we have Hughes. We’d want a good young NHL player. We almost moved Pettersson last year in a deal around Necas+, that’s the type of move we’d be looking for, if we’re to move him. Teams don’t just give away a young top line center who has already had a 100+ point season. Those players are hard to find.

 

[nickdawg95]

A lot of people owe JT miller an apology.

Petey is a crybaby... Miller calls him out cause he makes the most money and had a shit playoffs.

petey cries even more after that and then the people incharge are telling him to grow up and put the work in like an 11.5m $ player should.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I’ve literally said that the Eichel package would be the closest comparable. Young NHL’er, 1st, prospect and a 2nd. If that’s a “haul”, ok then.


Agreed 100% with your last bit here. Just like what you’re arguing means nothing, it’s opinion. This conversation has basically come full circle and hasn’t accomplished anything.

Those items also aren't the 2C and top four D that you're asking for. They're not even one of those pieces. If Eichel's the comparable, you're not getting what you're asking for so then we can go back to an actual comparable package for Pettersson which would be something like Zetterlund, a prospect winger like Musty, and a 1st.

As for the second part, welcome to the trade boards. This isn't about accomplishing anything. It's all just opinions so taking any of them as if the managers would naturally correlate with them is silly.

What if Buffalo doesn’t see Cozens as a true top 6 C? Have seen some Sabres fans say he’s better suited on the wing

I'm sure that opinion is out there but I don't think they sign him to that contract if they truly thought that. Maybe they have second thoughts on that anyway but in a trade scenario, they're likely looking at him as such and Buffalo should treat him as such in terms of determining his value. I don't think a team like Vancouver sniffs around asking for Cozens if they don't think he is and they need to extract the value appropriate for a young 2C rather than the significantly less value of a winger at the same age and level.

 

[mriswith]

I hope that the GM offers are the same as what hfboards is offering because then we're 100% keeping EP. What a pile of crap for a 26 year old career ppg 90-100 point selke calibre c when healthy lmao

 

[Peter Griffin]

Those items also aren't the 2C and top four D that you're asking for. They're not even one of those pieces. If Eichel's the comparable, you're not getting what you're asking for so then we can go back to an actual comparable package for Pettersson which would be something like Zetterlund, a prospect winger like Musty, and a 1st.

Alex Tuch isn’t viewed as some regular top 6 winger, he’s a power forward who showed great ability in the playoffs. Correlating his value to a winger like Zetterlund is where you fail. There’s no reason to not view Tuch’s value at the time of the trade to that of a 2nd line center or top 4 defender. Power forwards with proven playoff ability are just as valuable as those types. If San Jose had that type of forward to offer, sure, let’s talk.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Buffalo wouldn't be giving up Byram and Cozens for EP. Its one or the other plus prospect/picks

SAbres would be all over it to get EP

 

[Johnny Tomala]

Not too sure of Vancouvers needs but if I'm Yzerman, I offer Trey Augustine ( A+ goalie prospect) Nate Danielson( A center prospect)
Albert Johansson( decent d prospect) and whatever else i need to add to get it done. Detroit needs a NHL ready centerman.

Yup, Red Wings need superstar forward. If he's available,Yzerman has to try to get him.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Alex Tuch isn’t viewed as some regular top 6 winger, he’s a power forward who showed great ability in the playoffs. Correlating his value to a winger like Zetterlund is where you fail. There’s no reason to not view Tuch’s value at the time of the trade to that of a 2nd line center or top 4 defender. Power forwards with proven playoff ability are just as valuable as those types.

I mean, he kind of was. Tuch wasn't a top six winger at the time of the trade. He was a 3rd liner that got PP time but he also really only put out 20 goal seasons in Vegas. Zetterlund isn't as valuable as Tuch is but is a close enough comparable that other assets could cover the gap that exists. The Sharks would likely have better draft capital than Vegas then and they have prospects more valuable than Krebs then. There's plenty of reason not to view Tuch's value then as that of a 2C or top four defender. Big middle six wingers don't have the same impact as 2C's or top four d-men.

 

[Diamonddog01]

I mean, he kind of was. Tuch wasn't a top six winger at the time of the trade. He was a 3rd liner that got PP time but he also really only put out 20 goal seasons in Vegas. Zetterlund isn't as valuable as Tuch is but is a close enough comparable that other assets could cover the gap that exists. The Sharks would likely have better draft capital than Vegas then and they have prospects more valuable than Krebs then. There's plenty of reason not to view Tuch's value then as that of a 2C or top four defender. Big middle six wingers don't have the same impact as 2C's or top four d-men.

I mean, he kind of was. Tuch wasn't a top six winger at the time of the trade. He was a 3rd liner that got PP time but he also really only put out 20 goal seasons in Vegas. Zetterlund isn't as valuable as Tuch is but is a close enough comparable that other assets could cover the gap that exists. The Sharks would likely have better draft capital than Vegas then and they have prospects more valuable than Krebs then. There's plenty of reason not to view Tuch's value then as that of a 2C or top four defender. Big middle six wingers don't have the same impact as 2C's or top four d-men.

They offer is not comparable to the Vegas offer and is quite frankly ridiculous.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

A lot of people owe JT miller an apology.

Petey is a crybaby... Miller calls him out cause he makes the most money and had a shit playoffs.

petey cries even more after that and then the people incharge are telling him to grow up and put the work in like an 11.5m $ player should.

All of this from a GM saying “anything is possible”.

I’ll say the same thing I said before: seeing fans of other teams get tumescent over such thin reporting and spinning things into soap opera-level drama is… interesting.

The team is slumping. Key players are injured. Canadian media and fans are rabid. Tiny or nonexistent things get blown up.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I mean, he kind of was. Tuch wasn't a top six winger at the time of the trade. He was a 3rd liner that got PP time but he also really only put out 20 goal seasons in Vegas. Zetterlund isn't as valuable as Tuch is but is a close enough comparable that other assets could cover the gap that exists. The Sharks would likely have better draft capital than Vegas then and they have prospects more valuable than Krebs then. There's plenty of reason not to view Tuch's value then as that of a 2C or top four defender. Big middle six wingers don't have the same impact as 2C's or top four d-men.

If I was a team loading up for the playoffs, Tuch would be a guy I’d go out of my way to add, Zetterlund is not. Covering the gap with picks/prospects isn’t always the answer, unless you’re willing to go overboard.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the Vancouver locker room. Too much smoke for there not to be a huge fire