Post-Game Talk: Canucks def. Ducks - 3-2 (Joshua x2, Boeser) | 100 Points! Unpucker!

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This is not an over exaggeration, he has the talent to develop into a serious top six forward
I was amped when we signed him as I thought he might have the talent to develop into a legit offensive forward. Took a while, and admittedly I wrote him off after last year, but he's a beast. And remember, he showed flashes of this earlier in his career, just never maintained it in the NHL. I believe it was the AHL playoffs the year before he signed with us, he scored over a point per game. I think he could have 3-4 really good years ahead.
 
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I think it's clear that this team wont be truly put over the top into that upper echelon of contention until when - and if - some of our prospects hit. This team needs help on both the backend and in the top 9, and so any of Raty, EP26, Lekk, etc coming into the fold on ELCs and contributing would be that X factor we really need to compete. Obviously it's not going to happen this year, and I've been managing expectations for this season all year anyway, which I think we've met and exceeded.

We've found chemistry between Garland and Joshua, and so we need to get something similar out of the rest of our top 9 next season. Pettersson needs to find his guys especially. He just hasn't been on that level without the lotto line rolling, which we cant run unless we get Lindholm going, and so on. Hoglander has shown well, if we're not going to run 6-40-9, but I'm skeptical that we're going to have time to figure it, or our PP, out before the playoffs.
 

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I meant that he's been the better player this season.

Nichuskin is a bit ahead for now overall based on prev merits.

I get we like to talk our own players up, but lets relax. Nichushkin is producing at over a PPG pace this season while being one of the best defensive wings in his own end. He's half a step slower in his own end relative to the last 2 years, but even half a step slower means he's elite in his own end plus he's even better offensively.
 

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I'll manage....

Bah forget it.
Was waiting* for this post.

Was not disappointed.

*yes, with bated** breath

**it's not baited breath, you maroons, I don't have dead fish breath, in fact my breath is . . . well, like me it's . . . well, you know . . . the point is it's bated, not baited, and you are all maroons; bate means to restrain, like an abatement, i'm like holding my breath waiting for sopel3rd's autoresponse, I could be dead now from asphyxiation and none of you even care
 

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Pettersson - Miller - Boeser
Podkolzin - Lindholm - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - Lafferty

When Lindholm is healthy. This lineup illustrates the real problem: an absolute black hole of a second line. The rest of the lineup is constructed with lines and pairings that are proven effective units, which is why I ended up with that 2nd line. We know those guys won't do shit together but there's not much anyone can do. At least go with 3 other lines that work (I know Hoglander has earned his way up the lineup but for a lot of the season he did just fine with Lafferty and they formed a very effective, useful 4th line).

In fairness to management I don't blame them for thinking that they could build lines around their center spine with what they had instead. You'd think that Pettersson could carry his own line and Lindholm would fit in as a winger in the top 6 or make the lineup even deeper by centering his own line as well. But none of that has worked out and they've ended up with a situation where they LACK depth - the complete opposite of how things looked earlier in the season.
 

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Pettersson - Miller - Boeser
Podkolzin - Lindholm - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - Lafferty

When Lindholm is healthy. This lineup illustrates the real problem: an absolute black hole of a second line. The rest of the lineup is constructed with lines and pairings that are proven effective units, which is why I ended up with that 2nd line. We know those guys won't do shit together but there's not much anyone can do. At least go with 3 other lines that work (I know Hoglander has earned his way up the lineup but for a lot of the season he did just fine with Lafferty and they formed a very effective, useful 4th line).

In fairness to management I don't blame them for thinking that they could build lines around their center spine with what they had instead. You'd think that Pettersson could carry his own line and Lindholm would fit in as a winger in the top 6 or make the lineup even deeper by centering his own line as well. But none of that has worked out and they've ended up with a situation where they LACK depth - the complete opposite of how things looked earlier in the season.
the second line is a black hole because of the way you constructed the lines LOL… I like Miller with Garland and Joshua, he’s like Blueger ++…. it could work
 

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I get we like to talk our own players up, but lets relax. Nichushkin is producing at over a PPG pace this season while being one of the best defensive wings in his own end. He's half a step slower in his own end relative to the last 2 years, but even half a step slower means he's elite in his own end plus he's even better offensively.
You need to relax yourself. Look at their respective teams. Nichuskin plays in a far better offensive system and has spent time playing with one of the best player in the league.

Nichuskin is better overall but definitely not this season. Give Josua more ice time, put him on the first PP unit and it becomes closer.
 
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Mr. Canucklehead

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I’m in my good vibes era. Would love for them to win the division but whatever. This season is already a hugely unexpected success. I see no reason to be upset or defeatist.

Pretty much where I’m at. We also started our third string goaltender while resting some key players against a bad opponent and still got the win.

Would I have liked a blitzkrieg smack down more? Absolutely, and I think those sorts of wins are the only real balm on the collective fanbase’s somewhat fragile psyche coming out of a decade of dreadfulness.

We do have some areas to work - but hopefully we can fine tune that over the next bit.
 

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Pettersson - Miller - Boeser
Podkolzin - Lindholm - Mikheyev
Joshua - Blueger - Garland
Hoglander - Suter - Lafferty

When Lindholm is healthy. This lineup illustrates the real problem: an absolute black hole of a second line. The rest of the lineup is constructed with lines and pairings that are proven effective units, which is why I ended up with that 2nd line. We know those guys won't do shit together but there's not much anyone can do. At least go with 3 other lines that work (I know Hoglander has earned his way up the lineup but for a lot of the season he did just fine with Lafferty and they formed a very effective, useful 4th line).

In fairness to management I don't blame them for thinking that they could build lines around their center spine with what they had instead. You'd think that Pettersson could carry his own line and Lindholm would fit in as a winger in the top 6 or make the lineup even deeper by centering his own line as well. But none of that has worked out and they've ended up with a situation where they LACK depth - the complete opposite of how things looked earlier in the season.
There is a reason for concern here, but there are better ways to construct the lineup.

Hoglander-Lindholm-Lafferty would be a much better 2nd/3rd line, if they are running the Lotto line.

Then Pod-Suter-Mikh would be a very decent 4th line.
 
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VanJack

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Are the Canucks playing 'rope-a-dope' or has the pressure of playing 'Tocchet hockey' all season long, suddenly caught up with them?

Playing a team with nothing to play for, and on a back-back-back inside of 24 hours, it was the Ducks who carried the play in the third period. Canucks just looked so slow to the puck at times, and handed Anaheim oodles of offensive zone time.

Against a playoff team, chasing that much in your own zone and taking so many penalties simply isn't sustainable. But I guess a win is a win, no matter how you fashion it.

But this team will need to find another gear in the post-season. Is it actually there?
 

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Tocchet thinks getting on the road will be good for the group. Encouraging sign that Lindholm is coming.

Hope Lindholm can pick things up.

We may also be underestimating the effect not having Demko is having. The goalies have played fine, but I imagine team is way more confident with Demko between the pipes and will play as such.

I hope.
 

VanJack

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Canucks make Big Z a healthy scratch in this one. Not sure why......other than the fact they wanted to get Juulsen back into the action.

Canucks are calling it 'load management" for Zadorov, but I doubt the player was happy. And I think the Canucks really missed his hulking presence, particularly in their own zone.

I really think the best bet for the Canucks is to simply alternate Cole and Juulsen the rest of the way.
 

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