GDT: Canes vs. Stars

[BadgerCane58]

December 27th.
Please trade, cut, or demote #82.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Good thing we haven’t been systematically smothered and suffocated in the playoffs every single year by the top dogs in the East treating us like little brothers every year. Definitely not an issue that our biggest issues this year have been top line forwards not stepping up as well as goaltending injuries/inconsistencies. Would be a major worry if our biggest playoff issues are front and center problems so far during this regular season, but thankfully that’s not the case.

I know we like to focus on this after a regular season loss, but the problem in the playoffs hasn't been 5v5 play, it's been special teams and in some instances, goaltending.

Playoffs are a tight checking slog 5v5 for the most part, which is why high flying teams many times struggle when they get to the playoffs. We've lost the special teams battle significantly and had weaker goaltending in many of those series as well.

In 40 playoff games from 2021 through last season, the Canes have scored 77 goals 5v5 and given up 68 goals 5v5. Only Vegas and Colorado have done better out of all playoff teams.

We had 16% PP and a 77% PK in the playoffs vs. the regular season when we had a 23%PP and an 86% PK. If we can't at least break even on special teams, we aren't going to go deep into the playoffs no matter what we do 5v5.

No doubt the team is struggling a bit right now to generate offense. They probably overachieved early on and are now underachieving a bit now. I don't think the team will be as good as it was last year based on the additions and subtractions, but who knows.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

December 27th.
Please trade, cut, or demote #82.

*Aho plays like ass all game*
It must be KK’s fault!

 

[chaz4hockey]

Brief thought: perhaps more later in news/notes:

Caps outstanding 2019 draft picks beat us last night:

Canes 2019 outside of Pyotr (he should have had that 2nd goal too) is meh:

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[Anton Dubinchuk]

That’s not meh! That’s bad!

 

[bleedgreen]

That’s not meh! That’s bad!

Yup, at present that’s not a great draft especially considering all the extra picks. Still an outside chance for Honka and maybe Suzuki can do something somewhere else. He needs a few more injuries just get a shot presently. I think a productive season in Chicago gets him a shot somewhere.

 

[WreckingCrew]

We've been playing .500 hockey essentially (10-9-1) since Nov 7 when our big win streak ended after the epic collapse against Colorado

 

[Blueline Bomber]

We've been playing .500 hockey essentially (10-9-1) since Nov 7 when our big win streak ended after the epic collapse against Colorado

When did Necas stop his heater? Around the same time?

 

[chaz4hockey]

That’s not meh! That’s bad!

Agree....Canes seem to go hot and cold on their recent drafts (2019 hurts because they would be contributing right now at a lower cost).
2019....really bad
2020....outstanding
2021....good
2022...looking bad
2023...looking very good
2024...TBD but Artamonov is promising

When did Necas stop his heater? Around the same time?

Teams are focusing on him too.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yup, at present that’s not a great draft especially considering all the extra picks. Still an outside chance for Honka and maybe Suzuki can do something somewhere else. He needs a few more injuries just get a shot presently. I think a productive season in Chicago gets him a shot somewhere.

I think Suzuki has had enough injuries. Hopefully he can stay healthy now that he's playing well.

 

[Svechhammer]

Well Jarvis had some pointed words in the postgame

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/carolina-hurricanes/game-day/we-really-need-to-bring-a-work-ethic-instead-of-trying-to-just-fluke-our-way-through-games-seth-jarvis-tyson-jost-rod-brindamour-on-loss-to-washington

Just learning from what we did tonight, taking away the good parts of our game and learning from the bad ones. Really, it just boils down to when we have success and you watch Jordo's line every night. It boils down to working hard and creating chances for yourself and that's just not what's happening throughout the lineup, myself included. We just need more from our top guys and we really just need to bring a work ethic instead of trying to just fluke our way through games.

Man, that's about as harsh a critique as it gets with a Brindy system.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Canes 2019 outside of Pyotr (he should have had that 2nd goal too) is meh:
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That draft signifies the issue that I think is afflicting the organization right now.

At the time, that was a great draft. For one thing, it was the draft where we traded Marleau for the Jarvis pick which was franchise-altering. Suzuki was a decent prospect at that draft position, and has struggled with injury and the COVID development pause. Jamieson Rees looked like a budding depth winger with some sandpaper in his game, like a LaRose or McGinn type. Honkka was a great use of a low 3rd, with a ton of upside that at one point seemed to be blossoming. Puistola was viewed as a potential steal. Fensore and Webber made an interesting contrast. And of course, Kochetkov was a future #1 goalie. With that many picks, you’d think that more than just Kochetkov would have hit.

Pronman gave us an A- for that draft.
ESPN gave us an A.
TSN gave us an A.
Canes Country seemed confident that we’d found some steals.

On paper, they did it right — stacked up picks, weaponized their cap space, picked high-potential fallers, spread their picks around to diversify their risks. No notes.

Then it just didn’t work out. The draft as a whole turned out to be a disappointment and all those picks but Kochetkov busted. What can you do? Sometimes the odds just don’t go your way.

The assumption was that by this time our talent pipeline would be very robust from hits on depth picks in the 2017-2022 drafts but that’s only been minimally true with Drury and Blake occupying fringe roles and a couple of good D prospects in the wings. We’re not seeing the emergence of replacement talent at core positions that the odds suggested we would have seen by now. Our best approximation of that to date was the Jarvis pick, which was more of a circumstantial move.

Given where we are in the cycle of this team’s build, I’m not sure it makes sense to keep following the original game plan. If we’re going to experience a long gap between Aho and the next 1C, Slavin and the next 1D, etc, we might be getting backed into a more traditional go-for-it/tank/rebuild dynamic. Not that it’s anyone’s fault, it’s just where we find ourselves.

 

[chaz4hockey]

^^^^
Good post.

As noted, there is some promise to a few of the drafts. Plus, I suspect the Chicago AHL mess has slowed down growth for some players too.

But…..until guys start making the big club and producing, I’m now ranking the Borg’s drafting capability as average.

 

[HisIceness]

I'm willing to forgive 2019 because honestly that draft outside of Hughes has been bad, and even Hughes at one point was struggling. Covid f***ed a lot of development for that draft and probably 2017,18, and 20 as well.

2022, if Trikizov works out, great.

2021, if Blake continues to progress and Morrow is who we hope he is, awesome.

This past draft is intriguing, although I wonder if they should have picked Hutson at 34 versus Badinka. But, Arty looks promising and I'm a fan of Timur Kol, that kid is going to be in the league one day.