GDT: Canes At Nashville 8PM EST

[zman77]

 

[zman77]

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Martinook centering the 2nd line is absolute lunacy. Then saddling Svech with Fast too?

Playing Necas with Foegele as his partner is just as bad.

WTF is Daniels and Rod doing honestly? Avoiding anything that makes any sense?

We have the taxi squad, I mean some dudes are healthy.

 

[Moosetache]

The only thing that would make any sense is that Rod was told to put Svech with the worst possible forwards to keep his numbers down so Dundon wouldn't have to pay him as much.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Threats on all 4 lines.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Threats on all 4 lines.

I mean I know the lines aren't great but I wouldn't stoop so low as to threaten Brind'Amour about it - it's just a game at the end of the day.

 

[VibesAlive]

Well, I'm no coach, but those lines are like, wtf?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The lines make sense when you consider who performed and didn't perform last game. It says a lot that the defensive pairings have stayed so stable; all three have been strong in both games. The biggest issue last game was the defensive play from our 3rd line, in particular the fact that Geekie was pummeled to death in his own end. I know that it's difficult to replace Staal's 200-feet acumen from the center position, but Geekie was clearly in over his head playing Staal's role. Switching Martinook and Geekie and sheltering Geekie's minutes on the defensive side is probably the right move. Moving Svech to the 3rd line is questionable at first, however, at least when it comes to putting Foegele and Geekie in the best places to succeed, I.E. away from each other, I get the line shifts. I expect Svech to move back up to the 2nd line once Staal returns, a center that Foegele does play well with.

 

[MinJaBen]

Threats on all 4 lines.

My biggest problem with this approach is that we’ve apparently chosen to replace this (numbers are hypothetical points of the lines)

100/10/10/10

with this:

50/20/20/20

The staff appears to adamantly reject the idea that the whole can be greater than the sum of the parts. It seems to me that the SAT line is sacrificed to only modestly improve the other lines.

 

[Chrispy]

The biggest issue last game was the fact that Geekie was pummeled to death in his own end, shown by the fact that almost every line and defensive pairing performed well in the analytics from last game EXCEPT the line with Foegele and Geekie. I know that it's difficult to replace Staal's 200-feet acumen from the center position, but Geekie was clearly in over his head playing Staal's role. Switching Martinook and Geekie and sheltering Geekie's minutes on the defensive side is probably the right move. Moving Svech to the 3rd line is questionable at first, however, at least when it comes to putting Foegele and Geekie in the best places to succeed, I.E. away from each other, I get the line shifts. I expect Svech to move back up to the 2nd line once Staal returns, a center that Foegele does play well with.

This, which may have been Rod's logic, reads like a Dan Brown novel.

Each individual step makes sense as you go through it. Then you get to the end, read what you came up with, and ask yourself "How the **** did I end up here? This is absolute insanity!"

 

[Incubajerks]

In b4 Martinook with a pair tonight!

 

[urho]

I don't like Niño on the first line. I see that he's trying hard but his hockey computer is so much slower than TT and Aho's that he drags that line down. Line combinations should be greater than the sum of its parts, not worse. Just try Svech in there already. If the other lines don't work with that decision you can always take it back.

 

[VAcaniac]

Yikes, these line combos give me flashbacks to like 2011.

 

[bleedgreen]

Geekie should only be the fourth line center at this point is a fair argument, but it was one game. He could easily have a rebound game tonight. The problem appears to be Trocheck as Martinook as the third line center isnt as bad as him being the second line guy obviously. Until Trocheck starts producing our center ice is pretty weak. Too early to really judge anything, but as someone else mentioned somewhere Bishop would've been nice right now. Splitting the third and fourth lines between he and Geekie would've probably worked until things settle in.

 

[Incubajerks]

I don't like Niño on the first line. I see that he's trying hard but his hockey computer is so much slower than TT and Aho's that he drags that line down. Line combinations should be greater than the sum of its parts, not worse. Just try Svech in there already. If the other lines don't work with that decision you can always take it back.

I think eventually we will get there, on Nino I get what you intend but I am not ready to say that I don't like him on the first line, I liked his start of the season and until I feel like you that he's trying hard and working hard I am good with him.

 

[bleedgreen]

I don't like Niño on the first line. I see that he's trying hard but his hockey computer is so much slower than TT and Aho's that he drags that line down. Line combinations should be greater than the sum of its parts, not worse. Just try Svech in there already. If the other lines don't work with that decision you can always take it back.

No one is going to keep up with their computers. Svech can do more damage elsewhere if they can find the right combo. They need someone who can play bigger than them to draw attention and occasionally finish half empty nets they set said guy up for. That's a waste of Svech imo. He can drive play without them, and they should be able to do the same.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Svechnikov-Martinook-Fast

Svech back on a line with Marty after spending most of last season with the cherubs:

 

[Tryamw]

Threats on all 4 lines.

equals no threats? Ala the Skinner days... Well Svech may be a threat but he's just 1 young man...

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Geekie should only be the fourth line center at this point is a fair argument, but it was one game. He could easily have a rebound game tonight. The problem appears to be Trocheck as Martinook as the third line center isnt as bad as the he second line guy obviously. Until Trocheck starts producing our center ice is pretty weak. Too early to really judge anything, but as someone else mentioned somewhere Bishop would've been nice right now. Splitting the third and fourth lines between he and Geekie would've probably worked until things settle in.

He has gotten the toughest draws this season and had about 7 minutes with a scoring winger. I don’t know what we expect him to do. He had Nino and Necas at season’s end last season but both really struggled. Foegele wasn’t much of a replacement for Nino either.

 

[bleedgreen]

I think Svech and Fast can be a good pairing, I'd like to see Trocheck in there with them to get something going. The whole concept of a second line that scores seems to require Trocheck and Svech. Necas is such a wild card.

 

[bleedgreen]

He has gotten the toughest draws this season and had about 7 minutes with a scoring winger. I don’t know what we expect him to do. He had Nino and Necas at season’s end last season but both really struggled. Foegele wasn’t much of a replacement for Nino either.

I'm having trouble thinking of plays where Foegele, Mcginn, or Martinook have carried the puck or done something positive with it. Big night for those three, and hopefully a rebound for Geekie.

 

[Highway29]

During Staal absence I'd go witb:

Svech Aho TT
Nino Tro Necas
Dzingel Martinook Fast
Foegele Geekie McGinn

 

[Unsustainable]

I know it looks good on paper to be .5000 this time of year, but going up to .6667 would be huge

 

[bleedgreen]

We need Nino to be better, and the best way to get him some confidence back is to use him with the cherubs. He’s looked pretty good. There’s no
purpose to breaking up that line with the rest of the team being scrambled. They didn’t suck last game because of Nino, the two guys that drive the line weren’t good enough. If we need Svech to go there to wake up the other two then we’re actually in bad shape.

It was a bad game. TT and Aho will rebound. Nino will likely be fine there.

 

[Tryamw]

I know it looks good on paper to be .5000 this time of year, but going up to .6667 would be huge

Yeah but a game ago we were at 1.0000!