Recalled/Assigned: Canadiens recall Owen Beck (emergency recall)

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Did he really need to be called up? Or was this just a positive PR move for the team.
He was already in Ontario and the game was in Ottawa, so obviously that factored in the decision. Why not call him up when you're missing players? It gives him a taste of the NHL and can only be good for his confidence. He also didn't look out of place. It's not a PR move; it gave him the opportunity to play in the best league in the world, while at the same time not missing any OHL games. Win-win.
 

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why didn't they dress Wideman instead of the recall? Numbnuts like to play him as a winger anyways. Is he hurt too?
 

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Hope next year they learned their lesson from de la Rose but I doubt it. Hate how it seems like a guarantee he's going to be the 4th line C next season.
 
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Anybody saying that they 100% can guarantee that Beck will not be better than Slafkovsky has entirely lost any credibility.

You have created an asinine non sequitur with this botched statistical exercise. They are both very good prospects and neither one is a franchise level talent, to invent some imaginary unbridgeable gap between them is just silly.
I was going to say the same thing. He has draft position and nothing else. The only time they were on the ice in the same league, Beck looked much better.
 

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I was going to say the same thing. He has draft position and nothing else. The only time they were on the ice in the same league, Beck looked much better.
So all the NHL teams and the Team Canada coaches are mis-evaluating future superstar Owen Beck?
Personally, i project him as an average 3rd liner or very good 4th liner (for a contending team).

Not only me but pretty much all NHL scouts project Slafkovsky higher. The talent evaluators are not going by rank, they are CREATING the ranks.
 

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So all the NHL teams and the Team Canada coaches are mis-evaluating future superstar Owen Beck?
Personally, i project him as an average 3rd liner or very good 4th liner (for a contending team).

Not only me but pretty much all NHL scouts project Slafkovsky higher. The talent evaluators are not going by rank, they are CREATING the ranks.
I’m not saying one way or another. You are, it wouldn’t be the first time where a late first rounder or early second rounder would outperform a top 3/4 pick., you act like this seldom happens, it happens quite a bit. Especially in a draft where their were no sure fire 1st liners in the top 3. The idea that beck could end up the better player isn’t that far-fetched. Covid threw a wrinkle at scouts. There will be a bunch that rise and fall in their draft+2,3 etc because scouts over complicated things.
 

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I’m not saying one way or another. You are, it wouldn’t be the first time where a late first rounder or early second rounder would outperform a top 3/4 pick., you act like this seldom happens, it happens quite a bit. Especially in a draft where their were no sure fire 1st liners in the top 3. The idea that beck could end up the better player isn’t that far-fetched. Covid threw a wrinkle at scouts. There will be a bunch that rise and fall in their draft+2,3 etc because scouts over complicated things.
Yes, it is possible. But if it happens it will be because Slafkovsky busts, not because Beck suddenly starts putting up good offensive numbers.
 

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Yes, it is possible. But if it happens it will be because Slafkovsky busts, not because Beck suddenly starts putting up good offensive numbers.
Let’s agree to disagree here. One of the best drafts ever, Patrice Bergeron was picked 45th OA. Likely the best player to come out of that draft and it wasn’t because Staal busted or Marc Andre Fleury busted, it’s because Patrice Bergeron was a two way stud and one of the best defensive forwards to ever play the game.
 
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Let’s agree to disagree here. One of the best drafts ever, Patrice Bergeron was picked 45th OA. Likely the best player to come out of that draft and it wasn’t because Staal busted or Marc Andre Fleury busted, it’s because Patrice Bergeron was a two way stud and one of the best defensive forwards to ever play the game.
Yeah, ok. Bergeron's NHL performances versus Junior performances versus draft position is once in a lifetime. In his draft year, Bergeron was outscored by 42 players in the QMJHL.

Sure, we can agree to disagree. I do not think Beck replicates that miracle. However, if he somehow does, I will be extremely happy and will be happy to take you out to Gibby's!

I will say this to start. Bergeron made the Bruins at 18 at his first training camp and finished the year with 16 goals and 39 points centering the second line. Beck is already very short of matching the miracle trajectory, as he did not make the Habs in training camp, scoring 0 points in 4 pre-season games plus 1 regular season game, and still around 40th in OHL scoring this year.

I think Lars Eller 2.0 is much more likely than Patrice Bergeron 2.0.

But again, if Beck becomes Bergeron, I will bow to you on this forum in addition to the meal.
 

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I try to avoid stylistic projections and comparables but I am hopeful that Beck can develop into an Anthony Cirelli type, and even that would be awesome. I see similarities in their smarts, their work ethic, their physicality. One area that I suspect Beck may be better than Cirelli is his shot, Cirelli scores almost all his goals within 6 feet of the net. Faceoffs too as Cirelli has been below 50% some years of his career. Its more likely that Beck won't reach Cirellis level of defensive play because Cirelli is definitely a Selke-calibre defender and there's only so many players in the league that can play at that level.

If Beck exceeds this then great, but even so, having a player like Cirelli is great for a team that's aiming to compete.
 

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10 pages and nothing from anyone about how he played, HF experts LOL. o_O

I was at my first concert (post Covid) on Saturday night and recorded the game. By the time I woke up on Sunday and took the dog for a walk, I tried to re-watch the game but the NFL games were on yesterday so it was a scramble. Didn't really get a chance to see or give a good eye test.

Came here today to see what others were saying and in 10 pages, there is not much information on how he actually played.
 

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I was at my first concert (post Covid) on Saturday night and recorded the game. By the time I woke up on Sunday and took the dog for a walk, I tried to re-watch the game but the NFL games were on yesterday so it was a scramble. Didn't really get a chance to see or give a good eye test.

Came here today to see what others were saying and in 10 pages, there is not much information on how he actually played.
He played largely invisibly. At least he did not make big mistakes.
 
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I only saw the first period.

He made a couple of nice transition passes to start the transition to offense.

He played a largely safe game by dumping the puck in and doing simple cycle plays.

I didnt see his game in the second and third.
 
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He did great in the circumstances.

Unless he's to play at least 14 minutes a game in the NHL next season, he should be playing in the O.
 
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He did great in the circumstances.

Unless he's to play at least 14 minutes a game in the NHL next season, he should be playing in the O.
Agreed, he played well, didn't look out of place for sure. No way he should be in the NHL next season.
 
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He played largely invisibly. At least he did not make big mistakes.

Kind of what I noticed too but I watched the game fast on record. I was wondering if I missed anything but don't appear so.

Agreed, he played well, didn't look out of place for sure. No way he should be in the NHL next season.

I've been saying this for months now. I like him just as much as others but NHL is not probable next year. He's not going to be on a faster development track than Suzuki.
 
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Agreed, he played well, didn't look out of place for sure. No way he should be in the NHL next season.
Based on what we have seen so far, agreed. Beck should do his 19 to season in the OHL and probably one year in Laval.

If he makes a huge leap at camp next year, they can re-visit.

I would like to re-sign Monahan for 1-2 years until Beck is ready, and move Dvorak. Alternatively, get an asset for Monahan and keep Dvorak for now. However, if want to make the playoffs in the next two years, Dvorak really is not as good as a healthy Monahan.
 
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Based on what we have seen so far, agreed. Beck should do his 19 to season in the OHL and probably one year in Laval.

If he makes a huge leap at camp next year, they can re-visit.

I would like to re-sign Monahan for 1-2 years until Beck is ready, and move Dvorak. Alternatively, get an asset for Monahan and keep Dvorak for now. However, if want to make the playoffs in the next two years, Dvorak really is not as good as a healthy Monahan.
I agree with this strategy 💯 %
 

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