Canadian World Junior Thread (Vent Session)

OMG67

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He was invisible in the first two periods too. In fact, he hasn’t done much of anything since the 1st period of the Finland game when he was quite good and playing up to his capability next to Yager.



I don’t disagree that it’s worth a shot trying Martone on the 2nd line, but he hasn’t really given his coach a reason to do so. Despite his large frame he’s been content to play on the perimeter for much of the tournament and hasn’t done much to work himself into the middle of the ice to create offense from there (though he’s far from the only forward I’ll criticize for this). Contrast that with Pinelli, who’s been operating effectively between the hash marks, finishing a nice play set up by Price in the Finland game and creating a nice scoring opportunity for himself yesterday. He also made a key shot block late in the Czechia pre-tournament game, and everyone knows coaches love that shit. The only knock I’ll make on Pinelli is the penalty call late in the Latvia game, but I think most would agree that was pretty weak and likely not called in the O.

And for the record, two things:

1. I didn’t have Pinelli on my team coming out of the selection camp in early December. I thought he should have been cut from camp in favour of Sennecke. You can go back into my posts from early December. I like to think I’m fairly unbiased when it comes to matters affecting our national team (though I am a 67s fan).

2. IMO, Cameron has made some highly questionable decisions, in terms of roster selection and now player deployment. I don’t feel the need to defend him. Again, I questioned Cameron’s decision making, capabilities to coach this particular team, and tactical tendencies a month ago - check my post history if you don’t believe me. Having Bonk quarterback the PP (and Howe playing on the PP) is inexcusable. Not dressing Rehkopf is dumb. I didn’t think the team was well prepared to play last night, including our special teams. How he’s configured the lines and D pairings and dolled out ice time shouldn’t really be the primary concerns at the moment imo. The players need to play better, they need to play more physical, they need to forecheck harder and force turnovers by the opposition D-men, they need to attack the middle of the ice, and they need to finish.

100%. Without player execution on obvious lack of effort and poor decision making plays, it is hard to zero in on the coach. If the players were executing and the combination of players are producing while still generating chances, then attack the coach. But, how anyone can attack the coach when open ice passes aren’t being executed effectively isn’t on the coach. Players not penetrating and expecting the Red Sea to part for them so they can walk in uncontested isn’t on the coach. Playing dumb and impatient isn’t on the coach. Not hitting anything isn’t on the coach. The only thing the coach can do is start reducing the ice time of players not performing to expectation. The Yeager line saw that yesterday int he 3rd period. So, the coach did make an effort to at least put out the lines that were generating some form of offence.
 

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Also, there’s no doubt in my mind that Martone will be a star in the NHL in 5 years while Pinelli may not even be in the NHL in 5 years. That’s not really the question. We’re looking at winning a gold medal over the next 10 days. I’m old enough to remember a guy named Christian Dube (who played only a handful of NHL games after) leading Canada to a gold medal in 1997 while future hall of famer Joe Thornton warmed the bench as a spare forward. This stuff happens every year and looks weird in hindsight, but as they used to say - it’s a 19 year olds’ tournament, with good reason.
 
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So if we all agree that Porter Martone struggled badly in the Latvia game - - to the extent that he was benched for the entire 3rd period - - how can anyone possibly justify sending him out third in the shootout?

That’s entirely on the coach. Terrible, TERRIBLE, decision by Cameron.
 

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So if we all agree that Porter Martone struggled badly in the Latvia game - - to the extent that he was benched for the entire 3rd period - - how can anyone possibly justify sending him out third in the shootout?

That’s entirely on the coach. Terrible, TERRIBLE, decision by Cameron.

Normally the shootout players are decided pre-game based on performance at the club level. I’m sure every forward on that team are likely successful shootout guys at the club level. When it is one on one, I don’t think it matters much. Shootouts are a bit of a crap shoot.

The reality is, no one deserved a shit at the shootout if we were using game performance as the benchmark! Well, maybe since Luchanko scored on the breakaway, roll with him as the 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th shooter? :huh:
 
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dirty12

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So if we all agree that Porter Martone struggled badly in the Latvia game - - to the extent that he was benched for the entire 3rd period - - how can anyone possibly justify sending him out third in the shootout?

That’s entirely on the coach. Terrible, TERRIBLE, decision by Cameron.

He looked good in shoot out practice?
 

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