Proposal: Canadian 3 Way (Oilers Habs Canucks)

[Moose Head]

Habs and oilers do ok but the cap issue would need to be addressed. Nucks get molested

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I dunno...Edmundson for a 2nd + 3rd seems fair value, cap considerations aside.

Might be fair in value but the cap considerations make it an easy no for Edmonton, they'd need to move equal money out to get Edmundson.
Vancouver on the other hand gets hosed pretty hard.

 

[pth2]

How about:
Oilers get:
* Edmundson, 50% retained

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder
-Puljujarvi

Canucks get:
* Dadonov on an expiring contract
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

Basically, I subbed Dadonov for Hoffman, and added retention, at the expense of Puljujarvi. It's possible retention on JP is required so cap can work, but this would be for this season only, whereas EDM gets Edmundson at half-price all of next season too. I wonder if the picks shouldn't be flipped, with VAN getting the better one (ie, the 2nd).

 

[Homesick]

How about:
Oilers get:
* Edmundson, 50% retained

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder
-Puljujarvi

Canucks get:
* Dadonov on an expiring contract
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

Basically, I subbed Dadonov for Hoffman, and added retention, at the expense of Puljujarvi. It's possible retention on JP is required so cap can work, but this would be for this season only, whereas EDM gets Edmundson at half-price all of next season too. I wonder if the picks shouldn't be flipped, with VAN getting the better one (ie, the 2nd).

I would rather send Puljujarvi and a 1st for Vlad Gavrikov(50%)

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Hell no from Vancouver. Boeser has value, especially if we’re getting a bad contract back.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Montréal do it for sure lol

 

[Gaud]

The canucks say "falk-hoffman"

 

[DistantThunderRep]

How about:
Oilers get:
* Edmundson, 50% retained

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder
-Puljujarvi

Canucks get:
* Dadonov on an expiring contract
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

Basically, I subbed Dadonov for Hoffman, and added retention, at the expense of Puljujarvi. It's possible retention on JP is required so cap can work, but this would be for this season only, whereas EDM gets Edmundson at half-price all of next season too. I wonder if the picks shouldn't be flipped, with VAN getting the better one (ie, the 2nd).

Somehow this got worse for Vancouver and Edmonton. I am impressed.

 

[pth2]

Somehow this got worse for Vancouver and Edmonton. I am impressed.

Vancouver gets an expiring contract.... if Hoffman isn't of interest, an expiring contract means options over the summer. EDM's cap constraints are taken into account by moving their most movable contract and getting them retention on Edmundson. Do better if you can.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Vancouver gets an expiring contract.... if Hoffman isn't of interest, an expiring contract means options over the summer. EDM's cap constraints are taken into account by moving their most movable contract and getting them retention on Edmundson. Do better if you can.

Boeser is worth more than a B prospect + a 3rd. They might as well keep him for the year and eat a year off the contract to make him more desirable in the offseason or next trade deadline. Its a garbage offer for Vancouver. They don't have to trade Boeser right now. Especially if they are already going to move Horvat.

Some of you Habs fans are straight up delusional.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Pass from Edmonton. We don't have the cap space to make that work, and I sincerely hope we're aiming higher than Edmundson. He's been pretty bad as a Hab and overrated as a member of the Blues.

Vancouver also gets hosed.

The only team getting laid in this threeway is Montreal, Vancouver and Edmonton are getting f*cked.

 

[SwedishFire]

Oilers get:
* Edmundson

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder

Canucks get:
* Hoffman
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

* Oilers improve their D and keep their 1st. Adds an experience guy who can play both sides and is a mobile/physical stay at home type.
* Habs unblock our D by trading Eddy now for less than what we would get at the deadline. Keeps our kids playing vs siting some games.
* Canucks move on from Boeser and get another 20+ goal guy with one less year in term. Saves cap year/year and in term
* Canucks save cap and something they can use to retain on Horvat to get the best return.
* Canucks bring in a 3rd rounder and B prospect in the process.

Oilers pass...

 

[Weltschmerz]

Ever since the Oilers have been rumoured to be interested in Edmundson I've been watching Habs games. I hope like hell Oilers scouts have been watching as well. He's horrible. Eye test, simple stats, fancy stats. Everywhere
I hope the Oilers use their assets on a legit 2nd pair defenseman

Those teams played 11 days ago, Habs were leading 1:0 when Edmundson took a penalty at the start of the second period. Oilers scored. Then Edmundson took a major, Oilers scored 2 more. Somehow some fans think that makes him a target for the Oilers

 

[Habs Halifax]

The canucks say "falk-hoffman"

I think the Canucks are going to say falk-??? to any contract they take back when Boeser is traded. It's not going to be a Boeser for futures only trade.

 

[Voight]

"Canadian 3 Way" sounds like a cocktail.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Montréal do it for sure lol

I'm going to belittle all 3 teams...

* Aren't some Habs fans looking for a 1st for Edmundson? But this is one we run with?

* Canucks looking to trade Boeser for futures only and not take a contract back?

* Oilers don't have the room to fit in a pro rated $3.5M contract but want someone better with their miniscule cap space.

 

[junyab]

I can't see any fan being on board with acquiring Mike Hoffman.

 

[Ricck]

Classic shit habs proposal

 

[FerrisRox]

Oilers get:
* Edmundson

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder

Canucks get:
* Hoffman
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

The notion that the Montreal Canadiens could flip Hoffman, a B-prospect and a 3rd round pick and get Boeser is just absolutely absurd.

This is hopelessly biased. Absurdly so.

 

[ManofSteel55]

1. Cap doesn't work for Edmonton

2. I disagree with your valuation of Edmundson. He's worth a mid round pick right now. I would do the 3rd. Maybe the 2nd if you buy me a few drinks first and play some soft music. Not both picks.

3. You really think the Canucks are going to trade Boeser when the return is only Hoffman (no value, at best), a 3rd rounder, and an average prospect? They'll get better offers than that I'm sure.

4. Minor complaint - you block up the Oilers blueline. Yes, they need a shutdown defenseman, but we also need to move someone out to get Edmundson into the lineup. I'm not sold on Holland wanting Edmundson. He might want that style of player, but would likely want him to be better - either a legitimate 1st pair RD, or a 2nd pair anchor LD. Edmundson isn't a top pair guy. I'm not sold on him being a #3 either.

Ever since the Oilers have been rumoured to be interested in Edmundson I've been watching Habs games. I hope like hell Oilers scouts have been watching as well. He's horrible. Eye test, simple stats, fancy stats. Everywhere
I hope the Oilers use their assets on a legit 2nd pair defenseman

Exactly. Edmundson might have a place in our lineup if Kulak or Broberg go down, but he isn't even an upgrade on our current bottom pair guys. Not with the way he is playing.

 

[Homesick]

Those teams played 11 days ago, Habs were leading 1:0 when Edmundson took a penalty at the start of the second period. Oilers scored. Then Edmundson took a major, Oilers scored 2 more. Somehow some fans think that makes him a target for the Oilers

I'm not judging him on that one game. Its the constant turnovers since he's come back. He's brutal with or without the puck

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

"Canadian 3 Way" sounds like a cocktail.

Clam, vodka and bacon.

 

[Cogburn]

Either Hoffman or Dadonov are worthless to us. Dadonov is less detrimental, but the absolute last thing we need is a veteran forward with a high cap hit. A third and a Kapanen level prospect isn't enough to bridge the gap in player value, as taking a bad cap hit back cuts any talk of "but his contract...".

I don't see why Edmonton pays such a premium as well.

The concept of "Edmonton gets a D, Montreal gets a forward and Vancouver gets futures" isn't a bad one, but the execution by way of a three way trade is just awful.

 

[hughdreamz]

I remember my first Canadian three way

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I'm going to belittle all 3 teams...

* Aren't some Habs fans looking for a 1st for Edmundson? But this is one we run with?

* Canucks looking to trade Boeser for futures only and not take a contract back?

* Oilers don't have the room to fit in a pro rated $3.5M contract but want someone better with their miniscule cap space.

Are you just refusing to read posts? Its not about taking a contract back. Its about the fact all they get out of it is a 3rd and B prospect. Montreal literally gives up garbage and Edmunson and gets the best player in the deal. But your rose coloured glasses prevent you from seeing this. Cap space is pretty useless to Vancouver. Let me put this is the simplest way for you to understand.

A) Horvat is getting traded.
B) Horvat getting traded means they don't necessarily have to move Boeser this year.
C) 3rd, B Prospect, and Cap Dump is insulting considering there isn't a need to move him now.
D) What does Vancouver need cap space for in the next couple years? Unless you think Kuzmenko is going to ask for $8M AAV?
E) Why would Vancouver want the LOWER third round pick between the two? Effectively making the trade even worse for Vancouver.
F) Vancouver won't be good this year or next season, at which point Myers contract is off the books, Boeser has one more year, and Petey needs a raise.
G) It's hilarious that your asinine proposal doesn't even offer up the higher Montreal picks, but some f***ing how Montreal ends up with 2nd + Boeser for a B prospect + Hoffman + Edmunson + EDM 3rd which is almost a 4th. But no, you can't figure out why everyone is saying your proposal is garbage.

I am not even a Canucks fan and I can figure this shit out. But for some reason you can't.