Proposal: Canadian 3 Way (Oilers Habs Canucks)

[Habs Halifax]

Oilers get:
* Edmundson

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder

Canucks get:
* Hoffman
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

* Oilers improve their D and keep their 1st. Adds an experience guy who can play both sides and is a mobile/physical stay at home type.
* Habs unblock our D by trading Eddy now for less than what we would get at the deadline. Keeps our kids playing vs siting some games.
* Canucks move on from Boeser and get another 20+ goal guy with one less year in term. Saves cap year/year and in term
* Canucks save cap and something they can use to retain on Horvat to get the best return.
* Canucks bring in a 3rd rounder and B prospect in the process.

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[beowulf]

This will not end well....

 

[PuckG]

This takes no consideration into cap space. No thanks from the Oilers.

 

[Habs Halifax]

This takes no consideration into cap space. No thanks from the Oilers.

Is Cap space your only issue or do you not like the Eddy for 2nd/3rd as well? What contract would you send back?

 

[ottawa]

Canucks getting absolutely hosed

 

[Djp]

Oilers get:
* Edmundson

Habs get:
* Boeser
* Oilers 2nd rounder

Canucks get:
* Hoffman
* Oilers 3rd rounder
* Grade B prospect from the Habs (Kapanen)

* Oilers improve their D and keep their 1st. Adds an experience guy who can play both sides and is a mobile/physical stay at home type.
* Habs unblock our D by trading Eddy now for less than what we would get at the deadline. Keeps our kids playing vs siting some games.
* Canucks move on from Boeser and get another 20+ goal guy with one less year in term. Saves cap year/year and in term
* Canucks save cap and something they can use to retain on Horvat to get the best return.
* Canucks bring in a 3rd rounder and B prospect in the process.

so Montreal trades Edmonsson and Hoffman and random prospect for a 2+3+ Boesser???

holy hell keep f***ing dreaming.

 

[Habs Halifax]

so Montreal trades Edmonsson and Hoffman and random prospect for a 2+3+ Boesser???

holy hell keep f***ing dreaming.

Not dreaming. Don't care about those belittle narratives.

Eddy for 2nd and 3rd from the Oilers

Boeser for Hoffman, Grade B prospect in Kapanen, and the 3rd from the Oilers deal.

Canucks getting absolutely hosed

Why? Cause you think Boseser is way better than Hoffman? Both are 20 goal guys that are struggling and the Canucks get a Grade B prospect and 3rd on top. It saves them cap which is being ignored as usual

I don't believe this is as far off as you think. What do you think Boeser actually returns? Cap contract and a 1st? I doubt that

 

[PuckG]

Is Cap space your only issue or do you not like the Eddy for 2nd/3rd as well? What contract would you send back?

Eddy would be a good addition and the cost you propose isn’t outrageous by any means but I personally would prefer paying a bigger acquisition cost to go for bigger fish (Chychrun, Gavrikov, Soucy etc.). We’d have to move Barrie or Puljujarvi to really make any space.

 

[ottawa]

Not dreaming. Don't care about those belittle narratives.

Eddy for 2nd and 3rd from the Oilers

Boeser for Hoffman, Grade B prospect in Kapanen, and the 3rd from the Oilers deal.



Why? Cause you think Boseser is way better than Hoffman? Both are 20 goal guys that are struggling and the Canucks get a Grade B prospect and 3rd on top. It saves them cap which is being ignored as usual

I don't believe this is as far off as you think. What do you think Boeser actually returns? Cap contract and a 1st? I doubt that

Because Hoffman is completely useless when he's not scoring, he's the definition of one dimensional. He can't even play on the point as our PP QB.

As a habs fan, I'd love to see that trade happen. As someone rational, I know there's no chance in hell it happens.

 

[McShogun99]

I was in a Canadian 3 way once but I think the other two guys didn't like it. That would make me Montreal and the other two guys Vancouver and Edmonton.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Because Hoffman is completely useless when he's not scoring, he's the definition of one dimensional. He can't even play on the point as our PP QB.

As a habs fan, I'd love to see that trade happen. As someone rational, I know there's no chance in hell it happens.

Boeser is also completely useless when he is not scoring. At least Hoffman is a better skater. I think you are overrating Boeser.

Cap contract like Hoffman and a 3rd with a B Prospect won't be far off once Boeser is traded. Book mark it. I can be spot on or way off. We will see about that

 

[ThankGord]

Doesn't work with the cap, puts Oilers 2 million over

 

[Habs Halifax]

Doesn't work with the cap

Oilers cap I'm assuming? What contract would you send back?

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Everyone says no besides Montreal.

 

[ThankGord]

Oilers cap I'm assuming? What contract would you send back?

Pulju probs (not an Oilers fan tho)

 

[Habs Halifax]

Pulju probs (not an Oilers fan tho)

Ah K. Pulju is not having a good season but doubt the Oilers just add him as a cap dump. I guess they seem stuck cause they really don't have a pending UFA contract they would like to unload that helps the cap situation.

Possible Pulju is included and the Habs include Pitlick. Still puts the Oilers very tight to the cap.

I'd offer retention on Eddy but if we retain, 2nd and 3rd rounder is not enough

This will not end well....

Who cares. Most Habs proposals are attacked anyways. I remember a trade from years ago where it was Suzuki (pre NHL) for J Bean and fans comments were. "Finally a trade that makes sense"

 

[Warh1ppy]

I don't know enough about most of the players involved to comment.

But as a Canucks supporter (not fan) I will say that any trade that gets Boeser gone with cap space and sends back early picks or prospects with legitimate potential is a decent return right now

Unsure how that works out or helps any of the other teams in regards to cap etc but the canucks should not be discounting much with contract support

 

[Tempo]

Looks like you still haven’t learned anything from the Horvat thread.

 

[lamp9post]

Everyone says no besides Montreal.

I dunno...Edmundson for a 2nd + 3rd seems fair value, cap considerations aside.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Canucks getting absolutely hosed

Came here to say this.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Came here to say this.

It's due to Boeser getting a higher evaluation rating than Hoffman right? Do you really think Boeser returns more than this (See below). I'm assuming you think the Canucks are able to trade Boeser for a cap contract and also get a 1st or 2nd rounder? Explain and lets avoid the Hoffman is bad narrative. Boeser is bad when he is off too and Hoffman is the better skater at a cheaper cap hit with one less year in term.

I agree Boeser > Hoffman but the debate would be how much and are we ignoring cap space/term the Canucks gain as well as adding a 3rd rounder and B prospect.

* Cap contract
* 3rd rounder
* B prospect

 

[Pyrophorus]

It's due to Boeser getting a higher evaluation rating than Hoffman right? Do you really think Boeser returns more than this (See below). I'm assuming you think the Canucks are able to trade Boeser for a cap contract and also get a 1st or 2nd rounder? Explain and lets avoid the Hoffman is bad narrative. Boeser is bad when he is off too and Hoffman is the better skater at a cheaper cap hit with one less year in term.

* Cap contract
* 3rd rounder
* B prospect

Its not what Vancouver wants though.
I think they could also find better

 

[Habs Halifax]

Its not what Vancouver wants though.
I think they could also find better

What do they want? Futures only? That's not possible with this salary cap. Anybody the Canucks talk to will have to send the contract the other way. Cap space from across the NHL is very limited. You know this

Boeser has a great shot but so does Hoffman. Hoffman is the better skater on a cheaper cap hit/term. Hoffman a bit more softer? I believe so. 3rd and B prospect on top don't seem that far off to me. If another team is willing to offer a 1st or 2nd, go right ahead.

If the Canucks only want futures in return and no contract coming the other way, might as well keep Boeser and try next deadline of 2024 or following summer.

 

[Homesick]

What do they want? Futures only? That's not possible with this salary cap. Anybody the Canucks talk to will have to send the contract the other way. Cap space from across the NHL is very limited. You know this

Boeser has a great shot but so does Hoffman. Hoffman is the better skater on a cheaper cap hit/term. Hoffman a bit more softer? I believe so. 3rd and B prospect on top don't seem that far off to me. If another team is willing to offer a 1st or 2nd, go right ahead.

If the Canucks only want futures in return and no contract coming the other way, might as well keep Boeser and try next deadline of 2024 or following summer.

Ever since the Oilers have been rumoured to be interested in Edmundson I've been watching Habs games. I hope like hell Oilers scouts have been watching as well. He's horrible. Eye test, simple stats, fancy stats. Everywhere
I hope the Oilers use their assets on a legit 2nd pair defenseman

 

[ottawa]

Boeser is also completely useless when he is not scoring. At least Hoffman is a better skater. I think you are overrating Boeser.

Cap contract like Hoffman and a 3rd with a B Prospect won't be far off once Boeser is traded. Book mark it. I can be spot on or way off. We will see about that

So why did you make the trade proposal? Wtf lol

So in your eyes, the habs are getting a Hoffman 2.0 with worst skating + 2nd while giving up Hoffman, Edmundson and Kapanen.

There's a massive gap in your logic.