CANADA WORLD CUP ROSTER....ideas?
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ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
Rabid Ranger said:
Noted on Langenbrunner.....but Knuble was born in Canada....was not aware he played for Team USA. Another Deadmarsh/Hull I guess.
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2 is better than one
ginner said:
Yeah, Knuble was born in Toronto, but raised in the U.S., played college hockey, and has represented the U.S. internationally.
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Burke's Evil Spirit said:
Just shows how biased Canucks fans can be... What how is Bertuzzi deserves to play and Thornton not? Bad playoffs? I didn't know Bertuzzi was any better.
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
BruinsGirl said:Just shows how biased Canucks fans can be... What how is Bertuzzi deserves to play and Thornton not? Bad playoffs? I didn't know Bertuzzi was any better.
Hey take it easy on the generalizations....I am a canuck fan and have Thornton ranked #1 or #1A
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ginner said:
Sorry..honestly didn't mean to make all Canucks fans angry...(just some of them!!!
)Kariya Sakic Iginla
Tanguay Thornton Bertuzzi
Gagne Marleau St.Louis
Smyth Madden Heatley
Niedermayer Foote
Jovanovski Blake
Pronger Redden
Brodeur
Belfour
Luongo
Too hard to choose. I know I'll be switching up my lines later.
Tanguay Thornton Bertuzzi
Gagne Marleau St.Louis
Smyth Madden Heatley
Niedermayer Foote
Jovanovski Blake
Pronger Redden
Brodeur
Belfour
Luongo
Too hard to choose. I know I'll be switching up my lines later.
Is it fair to say that we have too much talent to predict who will exactly be on the roster? :lol
Goalies:
M. Brodeur
R. Luongo
J. Theodore
Defense:
C. Pronger
E. Jovanovksi
R. Blake
W. Redden
E. Brewer
S. Niedermayer
S. Souray
S. Stevens IF he's healthy (if he's not, then J. Smith)
the problem with that defensive grouping, is its a little softer than usual without S. Stevens or A. Foote on there, if Stevens injury heals Id think he'd be put in there; if not then they may look for some extra mean streak in a similar player, (J. Smith maybe? or D. Phaneuf
)
Forward:
P. Kariya-J.Sakic-J.Iginla
R.Nash-J.Thornton-D.Heatley
B.Morrow-K.Draper-K.Maltby
R.Smyth-P.Marleau-M.St. Louis
Extras: B.Shanahan-S.Doan-S.Sullivan
THE LEMIUEX RULE: If he's healthy, he's in the line-up.
M. Brodeur
R. Luongo
J. Theodore
Defense:
C. Pronger
E. Jovanovksi
R. Blake
W. Redden
E. Brewer
S. Niedermayer
S. Souray
S. Stevens IF he's healthy (if he's not, then J. Smith)
the problem with that defensive grouping, is its a little softer than usual without S. Stevens or A. Foote on there, if Stevens injury heals Id think he'd be put in there; if not then they may look for some extra mean streak in a similar player, (J. Smith maybe? or D. Phaneuf
)Forward:
P. Kariya-J.Sakic-J.Iginla
R.Nash-J.Thornton-D.Heatley
B.Morrow-K.Draper-K.Maltby
R.Smyth-P.Marleau-M.St. Louis
Extras: B.Shanahan-S.Doan-S.Sullivan
THE LEMIUEX RULE: If he's healthy, he's in the line-up.
ginner classic
Dammit Jim!
Footemeister said:Kariya Sakic Iginla
Tanguay Thornton Bertuzzi
Gagne Marleau St.Louis
Smyth Madden Heatley
Niedermayer Foote
Jovanovski Blake
Pronger Redden
Brodeur
Belfour
Luongo
Too hard to choose. I know I'll be switching up my lines later.
Maybe accurate in terms of depth but if I had to build the ultiate team NHl style I think I would have the following:
Kariya Sakic Iginla
Bertuzzi Thornton Heatley
Smyth Primeau St Louis
Morrow Madden Draper
(Morrison)
Pronger Blake
Niedermayer Foote
Redden Jovo
(Aucoin)
Brodeur
Luongo
Theodore
I pick Morrison as my backup forward as Draper can be shifted to the wing and Morrison can step in on a checking or scoring line, something many of the other Canadian players outside of St Louis, Smyth and Morrow cannot do.
I pick Aucoin as he is a solid two-way player and his speed is a non-issue on NHL ice. He is also a right-handed shot and could spot injuries on both sides of the D (Jovo shifted to the left side in case of an ijury to a lhs, with Aucoin drawing in on the right). I put Bertuzzi on the left as there is too much quality on the right side and he plays both spots equally well. I just cannot stomach the idea of Tanguay making it and Bert not. Bertuzzi brings so much more to the table. If I had a chance to pick a second spare forward it would be Tanguay who can play left wing and centre.
Forwards:
Smyth-Sakic-Iginla
Tanguay-Lemieux(if healthy)-Heatley
Stillman-Primeau-St-louis
Kariya-Marleau-Doan (if healthy)
Spares: Thornton, Briere
I'm not sure about the lines, but these are the players I would pick to be on the WC team. I would possible replace Kariya with Nash or Gagne, since Kariya did not have a very good year, although if he is healthy he will probably be a lock since he played well in SLC and is well liked by management. I somewhat doubt Lemieux will be healthy, in which case expect Richards or maybe even Spezza (to fulfill the youth requirement) to step in. I would keep Briere as a spare since he played well in this years world championship and looked especially good playing with Heatley. Personally I would not have Bertuzzi on the team since he has a serious temper management problem and I could see him taking stupid penalities at bad times (and he didn't play well in the 2002-03 playoffs). Thornton looked awful in this years playoffs (I know he was injured), so I would lean towards not picking him, or making him a spare. As for the checking line centre, you want somebody who can shut down the Forsbergs and Kovalchuks and even contribute a bit of offense. Peca hasn't been the same since the Tucker hit, so I am inclined to choose Primeau, although Madden, Draper, Walz or even Steve Rucchin should be considered for that job. Stillman (25 G/ 55A, +18, 6GWG) hasn't gotten much consideration at all, but he plays smart disciplined hockey, and would be great on the point of the PP.
Defense: Pronger- Niedermayer
Blake- Foote
Redden- Aucoin
Spares: Brewer, Jovanovski
Aucoin is just as good as any of the other defensemen, but plays on the island, so he doesn't get much press over here. Jovanovski takes stupid penalties (see the Calgary-Vancouver game 7 this year to see what I mean), but has a great upside. Redden is dependable. Personally, I think Foote is overrated and not as reliable as everybody thinks, but he will probably get the nod due to experience. Stuart, and Regehr should both get consideration, and Scott Hannan on San Jose looked fantastic shutting down the Colorado Avalance snipers in that series in the playoffs, so he may be a darkhorse.
Goalies: Brodeur, Luongo, Theodore, possibly Belfour.
Canada has fantastic depth at this position, which is definately a good thing....
Feedback is welcomed
Smyth-Sakic-Iginla
Tanguay-Lemieux(if healthy)-Heatley
Stillman-Primeau-St-louis
Kariya-Marleau-Doan (if healthy)
Spares: Thornton, Briere
I'm not sure about the lines, but these are the players I would pick to be on the WC team. I would possible replace Kariya with Nash or Gagne, since Kariya did not have a very good year, although if he is healthy he will probably be a lock since he played well in SLC and is well liked by management. I somewhat doubt Lemieux will be healthy, in which case expect Richards or maybe even Spezza (to fulfill the youth requirement) to step in. I would keep Briere as a spare since he played well in this years world championship and looked especially good playing with Heatley. Personally I would not have Bertuzzi on the team since he has a serious temper management problem and I could see him taking stupid penalities at bad times (and he didn't play well in the 2002-03 playoffs). Thornton looked awful in this years playoffs (I know he was injured), so I would lean towards not picking him, or making him a spare. As for the checking line centre, you want somebody who can shut down the Forsbergs and Kovalchuks and even contribute a bit of offense. Peca hasn't been the same since the Tucker hit, so I am inclined to choose Primeau, although Madden, Draper, Walz or even Steve Rucchin should be considered for that job. Stillman (25 G/ 55A, +18, 6GWG) hasn't gotten much consideration at all, but he plays smart disciplined hockey, and would be great on the point of the PP.
Defense: Pronger- Niedermayer
Blake- Foote
Redden- Aucoin
Spares: Brewer, Jovanovski
Aucoin is just as good as any of the other defensemen, but plays on the island, so he doesn't get much press over here. Jovanovski takes stupid penalties (see the Calgary-Vancouver game 7 this year to see what I mean), but has a great upside. Redden is dependable. Personally, I think Foote is overrated and not as reliable as everybody thinks, but he will probably get the nod due to experience. Stuart, and Regehr should both get consideration, and Scott Hannan on San Jose looked fantastic shutting down the Colorado Avalance snipers in that series in the playoffs, so he may be a darkhorse.
Goalies: Brodeur, Luongo, Theodore, possibly Belfour.
Canada has fantastic depth at this position, which is definately a good thing....
Feedback is welcomed
I think two guys who should get considerable consideration would be Draper and Primeau. I think I would drop Peca for any one of these two guys. Don't rule out Yzerman either. I realize he is pushing 40, but it seems that Gretzky is still really high on this guy. He can still play and another great guy in the room. I look at it like this:
Lemeiux
Sakic
Iginla
Kariya
Heatly
Thornton
Yzerman
Smyth
Primeau
Nash
Bertuzzi...maybe
Marleau
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Draper
Doan
Neidermyer
Blake
Pronger
Redden
Jovanoski
Foote
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Brewer
Aucoin
Boumeester(sp)
Brodeur
Luongo
Belfore/Theodore
McCabe
Lemeiux
Sakic
Iginla
Kariya
Heatly
Thornton
Yzerman
Smyth
Primeau
Nash
Bertuzzi...maybe
Marleau
---------------
Draper
Doan
Neidermyer
Blake
Pronger
Redden
Jovanoski
Foote
---------
Brewer
Aucoin
Boumeester(sp)
Brodeur
Luongo
Belfore/Theodore
McCabe
Regardless of my personal opinion. This is what I feel the team will look like, although lines will change, obviously.
Heatley - Sakic - Iginla
Nash - Lemuiex - Bertuzzi
St.Louis - Thorton - Marleau
Madden - Primeau - Draper
(Hell, anyone could be an extra, Smyth, Lecavailer, Kayria)
Niedermayer - Pronger
Blake - Foote
McCabe - Jovonovski
(Redden)
Brodeur
Belfour
Luongo
Now, personally, Scott Hannan has to win a cup and be MVP to get on this team, I love the guy, but that's just the way it'll be. You won't see Peca, that's for sure. For the 2nd (3rd) goalie, it'll be Eddie of Jose. You won't see J.S. or anyone else get the nod, it's a 4 horse race.
Heatley - Sakic - Iginla
Nash - Lemuiex - Bertuzzi
St.Louis - Thorton - Marleau
Madden - Primeau - Draper
(Hell, anyone could be an extra, Smyth, Lecavailer, Kayria)
Niedermayer - Pronger
Blake - Foote
McCabe - Jovonovski
(Redden)
Brodeur
Belfour
Luongo
Now, personally, Scott Hannan has to win a cup and be MVP to get on this team, I love the guy, but that's just the way it'll be. You won't see Peca, that's for sure. For the 2nd (3rd) goalie, it'll be Eddie of Jose. You won't see J.S. or anyone else get the nod, it's a 4 horse race.
BruinsGirl said:Just shows how biased Canucks fans can be... What how is Bertuzzi deserves to play and Thornton not? Bad playoffs? I didn't know Bertuzzi was any better.
It has nothing to do with Thornton's considerable talents, and everything to do with the mix of players Team Canada. A highly skilled center like Lecavalier will have much more success with the likes of Recchi, Nash and Bertuzzi on the wings, and also has a better shot than Thornton, which is rather important as neither Lemieux or Primeau are noted snipers, and Sakic's goalscoring ability has gone down a notch or two over the last few years.
Footemeister said:
I would love to see that, the guy works so hard day in day out. He really does deserve the recognition. His chances are low as Canada has some excellent depth but...
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Kariya-Sakic-Lemieux
Bertuzzi-Thornton-Iginla
Tanguay-Lecavalier-Heatley
Smyth-Primeau-St. Louis
extras: Doan, Nash, Draper
Pronger
Blake
Niedermayer
Redden
Jovo
Foote
extras: Stuart, other (doesn't really matter)
Brodeur
Luongo
Theodore
Bertuzzi-Thornton-Iginla
Tanguay-Lecavalier-Heatley
Smyth-Primeau-St. Louis
extras: Doan, Nash, Draper
Pronger
Blake
Niedermayer
Redden
Jovo
Foote
extras: Stuart, other (doesn't really matter)
Brodeur
Luongo
Theodore
The Bob Cole
Ohhhh Baby.
St.Louis
Nash
Sakic
Bertuzzi
Kariya
Thornton
Murray
Primeau
Lecavailer
Heatly
Iginla
Smyth
------
Doan
Tangauy
Lemieux if healthy of course
Jovanovski
Niedermeyer
Bouwmeester
Pronger
Blake
Aucoin
-----
Redden
Foote
S.Steven if he is healthy
Brodeur
Luongo
Turco
Nash
Sakic
Bertuzzi
Kariya
Thornton
Murray
Primeau
Lecavailer
Heatly
Iginla
Smyth
------
Doan
Tangauy
Lemieux if healthy of course
Jovanovski
Niedermeyer
Bouwmeester
Pronger
Blake
Aucoin
-----
Redden
Foote
S.Steven if he is healthy
Brodeur
Luongo
Turco
Kariya - Sakic - Iginla
Tanguay - Lemieux - Bertuzzi
Nash - Thornton - Heatley
Smyth - Primeau - St. Louis
Marleau, Peca
Pronger - Blake
Niedermayer - Jovanovski
Redden - Foote
Hannan
Brodeur
Luongo
Turco
This team would own.
Tanguay - Lemieux - Bertuzzi
Nash - Thornton - Heatley
Smyth - Primeau - St. Louis
Marleau, Peca
Pronger - Blake
Niedermayer - Jovanovski
Redden - Foote
Hannan
Brodeur
Luongo
Turco
This team would own.
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RoyIsALegend said:
Not that he would be playing.. but minus Turco, it would. I think the goalie team will be the same as the East All-Star team.. then again, I can see Belfour getting a spot on the team ahead of Theodore.
I don't think Peca should or will make the team.. Canada has so many good forwards it will be hard to choose just 16.. Heatley had 9 goals at the worlds so he'll definitely play a big role on the team and I noticed a couple people left Thorton off the roster for some reason.. he didn't play well in the playoffs but lets keep in mind his rib cartilege was torn apart..
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Tanguay - Sakic - Iginla
Nash - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Heatley Lemieux - Bertuzzi
Smyth - Thornton - Doan
Primeau?
About cooke, i can see him being a sleeper pick. Remember when gretzky was scouting game 7 canucks vs flames, and cooke had a memorable game, plus he's a relentless player, who's agitating, plays defense well, chips in on the offence, theres nothing not to like except for maybe better players. He also had a superb gold medal game sunday too i just remembered. who knows.....
Neids
Pronger
Blake
Jovo
Redden
Regehr?
Foote
Brodeur
Luongo
Belfour
Nash - Lecavalier - St. Louis
Heatley Lemieux - Bertuzzi
Smyth - Thornton - Doan
Primeau?
About cooke, i can see him being a sleeper pick. Remember when gretzky was scouting game 7 canucks vs flames, and cooke had a memorable game, plus he's a relentless player, who's agitating, plays defense well, chips in on the offence, theres nothing not to like except for maybe better players. He also had a superb gold medal game sunday too i just remembered. who knows.....
Neids
Pronger
Blake
Jovo
Redden
Regehr?
Foote
Brodeur
Luongo
Belfour
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I wouldnt take Kariya ,Peca or Gagne ..too much talent who deserve to go ahead of those 3 stiffs.
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