Canada with no medals at WHC and U20 WHC two years in a row

[ViD]

And that’s without Russia participating.

Canada Hockey crisis is evident.

The 4 nation gimmicky tournament is not serious.

 

[TimeZone]

Who cares about best on best tournaments when you have C level tournaments like the World Championship?

I didn't even know they lost until this post showed up lol

 

[Turin]

Well Russia wasn't beating Canada so.. why is 4 nations gimmicky but the WHC isn't?

 

[NVious]

Eh off years happen, it's cool to see the rest of the world get better, makes things more interesting.

But you really can't do the crisis thing when Canada just won the 4NF, teams sent their best and lost.

If you're gonna start making excuses there, those same excuses apply for Canada too:

Canada doesn't have their best at neither the WJC or WHC, just like teams were missing from 4NF

 

[BIitz]

Inb4 "no best-on-best", "no1 cares about this tourny", etc.

At the end of the day, if you're part of Hockey Canada, you're expecting to medal in all of these tournaments, if not win.

I don't think I'd use the word crisis, especially when they just won the Four Nations. But I would say it's been a disappointing couple of years at these 2 tournies.

Fluery had a chance at Triple Gold, and Sid could have been the 4th player (and 1st ever from Canada) to be in the double triple gold club. There was enough on the line for the game to matter, and to be disappointed by the outcome.

 

[ViD]

Well Russia wasn't beating Canada so.. why is 4 nations gimmicky but the WHC isn't?

I’m sorry that’s nothing but an ASG replacement. Nobody will ever brag of winning some 4N tournament

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

if it’s not best on best it means literally nothing

 

[Colezuki]

I’m sorry that’s nothing but an ASG replacement. Nobody will ever brag of winning some 4N tournament

I’m sure you would of if your team had one

 

[NVious]

I’m sorry that’s nothing but an ASG replacement. Nobody will ever brag of winning some 4N tournament

You realize Canadians can say the same things about these tournies right?

Canada doesn't have their best, it's a glorified exhibition, Canadian top juniors are killing it in the NHL, so they don't get to go pump other juniors.

It's excuses, Canada got beat fair and square in both places and that's disappointing. Canada also beat the best teams in the world at the 4NF where everyone was going as hard as they could, fair and square.

Both things are true or excuses exist for all events then.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

Also laughable to suggest 4 nations hockey is a gimmick and imply WHC is to be taken seriously. I live in Canada surrounded by hockey fanatics and can’t remember the last time I chatted up one of my buddies about the WHC.

This 4N tournament had us all scared shitless of the states and it was a huge prideful moment because it was best on best during a tense political period

 

[Nanabijou]

I’m sorry that’s nothing but an ASG replacement. Nobody will ever brag of winning some 4N tournament

Nah, it was pretty clear that the players in the 4N didn't treat it as an ASG. No doubt that Canada wanted to win at the World Championships, but also no comparison to which team was 'Canada's best'. No need for any Canadians now to downplay the Worlds, also no need to downplay the intensity of play we all saw at 4N.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Also laughable to suggest 4 nations hockey is a gimmick and imply WHC is to be taken seriously. I live in Canada surrounded by hockey fanatics and can’t remember the last time I chatted up one of my buddies about the WHC.

This 4N tournament had us all scared shitless of the states and it was a huge prideful thing because it was best on best.

It wasn’t best on best though, Russia didn’t play

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

how'd Russia do in their beer league division?

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

It wasn’t best on best though, Russia didn’t play

A lot of teams didn’t, closest we’ve gotten in a long time though.

 

[ViD]

how'd Russia do in their beer league division?

Didn’t lose to Denmark bud

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Didn’t lose to Denmark bud

Does Denmark play in the beer league division?

 

[NyQuil]

*yawn*

 

[BIitz]

Also laughable to suggest 4 nations hockey is a gimmick and imply WHC is to be taken seriously. I live in Canada surrounded by hockey fanatics and can’t remember the last time I chatted up one of my buddies about the WHC.

This 4N tournament had us all scared shitless of the states and it was a huge prideful moment because it was best on best during a tense political period

If you and your friends only talk about the NHL, are you NHL fans or hockey fans?

I talk to my friends about the NHL, WHL, Memorial Cup, IIHF events, NCAA, AHL, Champions League, heck me and my buddy were just watching some prep hockey championship (shoutout to MS Films).

Any time someone looks down on the value of a tournment simply because it's not "best-on-best", I get the feeling they only care about the NHL, and not the game itself.

When you recognize the tournment for what it is, a bunch of guys forgoing summer holiday's to play for country pride, it adds a lot more meaning/significance to it (at least in my eyes).

 

[Czechboy]

I wouldn't say crisis... Not even close.

But it is surprising to have such poor results.. Latvia beat them.. Denmark beat them.

And I hated the 4 nations but I'm positive if it was called 5 nations and Czechs won it.. if have it tattooed on my chest.lol

 

[Mathieukferland]

Canada Hockey crisis is evident.

Good for Denmark, it’s a big moment for them, hopefully they can build more arenas. But when best on best roles around (yes I’m aware Russia wasn’t at the four nations but the USA is still probably the second best team over Russia at the moment), Canada still remains the best country as was proved in February.



As for the u20 failures, hockey Canada’s biggest rival is…. Hockey Canada. That’s pretty easy to fix and I’m confident that a Kyle Turris and Gardiner MacDougall-led WJC team will have a hard time not winning gold in Minnesota

 

[ViD]

Does Denmark play in the beer league division?

Yeah they do, called WHC

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Yeah they do, called WHC

How ya gonna hate from outside of the club, you can't get in?

enjoy ya 10 game summit with Belarus. Just make sure both teams get back to their 9-5 when its all said and done.

 

[Czechboy]

If you and your friends only talk about the NHL, are you NHL fans or hockey fans?

I talk to my friends about the NHL, WHL, Memorial Cup, IIHF events, NCAA, AHL, Champions League, heck me and my buddy were just watching some prep hockey championship (shoutout to MS Films).

Any time someone looks down on the value of a tournment simply because it's not "best-on-best", I get the feeling they only care about the NHL, and not the game itself.

When you recognize the tournment for what it is, a bunch of guys forgoing summer holiday's to play for country pride, it adds a lot more meaning/significance to it (at least in my eyes).

Yup. I always comment on NHL fans letting us know how it works.

 

[BeranekAndNeck]

It’s almost like the nepotistic idiots who run HC are nepotistic idiots.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

If you and your friends only talk about the NHL, are you NHL fans or hockey fans?

I talk to my friends about the NHL, WHL, Memorial Cup, IIHF events, NCAA, AHL, Champions League, heck me and my buddy were just watching some prep hockey championship (shoutout to MS Films).

Any time someone looks down on the value of a tournment simply because it's not "best-on-best", I get the feeling they only care about the NHL, and not the game itself.

When you recognize the tournment for what it is, a bunch of guys forgoing summer holiday's to play for country pride, it adds a lot more meaning/significance to it (at least in my eyes).

I’m definitely not as good as a hockey fan as you. But it’s not just the NHL. I’ll follow prospects in other leagues, world juniors in particular is for me on par or above the NHL some years. But I have a problem with calling the 4 Nations a gimmick when it was seriously some of the most intense hockey I’ve watched. I’ll admit I haven’t watched the WHC in years.