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U18: Canada wins gold at Ivan Hlinka tournament

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Which result is more 'reputable", Ivan Hlinka or the U18 WJC's? I know Ivan Hlinka is unsanctioned, but still do not know which one is more reputable
 
Has ever been there such a dominant tournament like this? Canada beat Switzerland 5-1, Slovakia 5-1 and Sweden 5-1, then the US 11-4 and the Czechs in the final 6-2. I know that maybe some countries didn't have their absolute best, but still, it's quite good.
 
True Hockey Fan said:
Has ever been there such a dominant tournament like this? Canada beat Switzerland 5-1, Slovakia 5-1 and Sweden 5-1, then the US 11-4 and the Czechs in the final 6-2. I know that maybe some countries didn't have their absolute best, but still, it's quite good.
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which one ?
 
TherapyforGlencross said:
Which result is more 'reputable", Ivan Hlinka or the U18 WJC's? I know Ivan Hlinka is unsanctioned, but still do not know which one is more reputable
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Well the Ivan Hlinka is an unsanctioned exhibition tournament, but if you are asking about the players on the ice I don't know what to tell you.

Canada generally sends a top team, because of the timing of the tournament allows them to send all the CHL kids, whereas the U18s are only kids who aren't in the playoffs.

In contrast the US treats it like an amateur competition and they use it as a chance to get a look at players outside the NDTP system. They don't send their best players and they don't seem to look at it as all that important, whereas they see the U18s as the litmus test of their NDTP class in a given year.

The Europeans tend to look at both as just another chance to get a look at younger kids and give them a chance to play high profile games.

So really there isn't much of an answer, but the prestige of the U18s being IIHF sanctioned probably gives it a bit of a nudge in front.
 
joey16 said:
USA

And I heard Russia was also missing few guys because they chose to play in CHL (?)..
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USA is the only B team at Hlinka, a few teams like Russia and Sweden were missing a few players, but missing a few players isn't what I call sending your "B-team".
 
Mr Writer said:
USA is the only B team at Hlinka, a few teams like Russia and Sweden were missing a few players, but missing a few players isn't what I call sending your "B-team".
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true, but the fact that Russia did not send a team "B", the results looked like defense "C" and their attack could not change anything ...
 
Xokkeu said:
Well the Ivan Hlinka is an unsanctioned exhibition tournament, but if you are asking about the players on the ice I don't know what to tell you.

Canada generally sends a top team, because of the timing of the tournament allows them to send all the CHL kids, whereas the U18s are only kids who aren't in the playoffs.

In contrast the US treats it like an amateur competition and they use it as a chance to get a look at players outside the NDTP system. They don't send their best players and they don't seem to look at it as all that important, whereas they see the U18s as the litmus test of their NDTP class in a given year.

The Europeans tend to look at both as just another chance to get a look at younger kids and give them a chance to play high profile games.

So really there isn't much of an answer, but the prestige of the U18s being IIHF sanctioned probably gives it a bit of a nudge in front.
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agree. I like Ivan Hlinka because it is a memorial tournament of this PERSON. But IIHF WC-U18 is still a World Championship and that means indisputably more imho.

Hlinka for Canada, WC for USA. I am proud for our team silver season(s) :handclap:
 
So the Czechs had their about the best?


Also, the U-18 means a lot, I agree, but unfortunately, the canadian team is missing the players playing CHL playoffs. On the other hand, I think TC should still have solid results there.
 
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Let's not forget Canada was missing McDavid, who would destroy the opposition. Well, nothing is written, but he would certainly be a huge boost. In my opinion, he's one of the best, if not the best skater Canada will have in Decemebr at the Juniors, and he's just 17 years old.
 
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True Hockey Fan said:
Let's not forget Canada was missing McDavid, who would destroy the opposition. Well, nothing is written, but he would certainly be a huge boost. In my opinion, he's one of the best, if not the best skater Canada will have in Decemebr at the Juniors, and he's 17 years old.
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Sure, nobody's denying that and I think everyone knows ;)
 
Jeez said:
true, but the fact that Russia did not send a team "B", the results looked like defense "C" and their attack could not change anything ...
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At U18, its often difficult to tell the difference between a Russian A Team and C Team. Its still too early in their career to sort out who is a prospect and who isn't. Russia is only beginning to offer organized hockey opportunities to kids below age 17, which is why Russia has never been a force at U18.

The Russian Federation treats tournaments like the Ivan Hlinka just as it is, a summer invitational tournament. They just want to get a look at players, and they don't particularly focus on results, since it is not a championship of any kind. However, this year, the results were significantly worse than before, due to organizational and coaching issues that are discussed in the Russia Forum.
 
Yakushev72 said:
At U18, its often difficult to tell the difference between a Russian A Team and C Team. Its still too early in their career to sort out who is a prospect and who isn't. Russia is only beginning to offer organized hockey opportunities to kids below age 17, which is why Russia has never been a force at U18.

The Russian Federation treats tournaments like the Ivan Hlinka just as it is, a summer invitational tournament. They just want to get a look at players, and they don't particularly focus on results, since it is not a championship of any kind. However, this year, the results were significantly worse than before, due to organizational and coaching issues that are discussed in the Russia Forum.
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i would like to know how many of these players at the Hlinka came to Canada to play in the under 17 hockey challenge. I think there is quite a few.
 
When Canada dominates tournaments in such fashion suddenly it doesn't mean anything, but when Canada loses the tournament means so much.
 
Xokkeu said:
Well the Ivan Hlinka is an unsanctioned exhibition tournament, but if you are asking about the players on the ice I don't know what to tell you.

Canada generally sends a top team, because of the timing of the tournament allows them to send all the CHL kids, whereas the U18s are only kids who aren't in the playoffs.

In contrast the US treats it like an amateur competition and they use it as a chance to get a look at players outside the NDTP system. They don't send their best players and they don't seem to look at it as all that important, whereas they see the U18s as the litmus test of their NDTP class in a given year.

The Europeans tend to look at both as just another chance to get a look at younger kids and give them a chance to play high profile games.

So really there isn't much of an answer, but the prestige of the U18s being IIHF sanctioned probably gives it a bit of a nudge in front.
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Okay, thanks man for the info!

To be honest, I've never really watched a U18/Ivan Hlinka game, so I had no idea whatsoever.
 
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