Canada Holds All the Hockey Championships
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Darz
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zenator1 said:
and don't forget the...
World Under-17 Hockey Challenge
Women's Under-18 Hockey Challenge
LadyJet26
LETS GO BLUE!!!!!
tommi462 said:
Why shouldn't the Olympics count? They're still the reigning Olympic champions, therefore it does count.
Jussi
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zenator1 said:Unprecidented
Olympic
World Cup
World Championship
World Jrs.
Women's Olympic and World
Total Domination the last 3 tourneys: World Jr, World Cup, World Championship; 0 losses.
Has any country held all the hockey titles that there are at the same time before ?
Yes, you're great in hockey. Meanwhile, in the rest of the world (ie. outside of Canada): *crickets chirping*
Depends what you consider to be the important titles.....in the original post the womens world and womens olympic titles were included, which would eliminate every country except the US and Canada, and by throwing in the World Cup/Canada Cup I believe the only winners are Russia (Soviets) the US and Canada......
This is pretty impressive, although as you can see there is a reason no other country has ever held all these titles at the same time.....
BruinsGirl
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cyclops said:
Brazil wins often but...
World Championships don't happen often. European championships are much more interesting and more difficult to win.
By the way if you list all Canadian wins starting from last Olympics...don't forget US won last WJHC between Canadians wins .
Nope, the only country to ever win a Womens World Title is Canada, therefore Canada is the only country who is capable of having every crown at once.
Lets also add the World Under 17 title that will be won tonight.
Its Canada West vs Canada Pacific.
You see every other country sends their national team and the Canadians split into 5 teams by region and still capture all 4 semifinal berths. Its just incredible right now the way the Program of Excellence has led to so much success.
Lets also add the World Under 17 title that will be won tonight.
Its Canada West vs Canada Pacific.
You see every other country sends their national team and the Canadians split into 5 teams by region and still capture all 4 semifinal berths. Its just incredible right now the way the Program of Excellence has led to so much success.
But we win so consistently....that's what it's all about.One U.S win does'nt show me anything.Heck....this is our elevenenth gold here not counting all the other medals.......we've got the hardware,you can't deny that.BruinsGirl said:Brazil wins often but...
World Championships don't happen often. European championships are much more interesting and more difficult to win.
By the way if you list all Canadian wins starting from last Olympics...don't forget US won last WJHC between Canadians wins .
Hadoop
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Canada is the #1 in hockey only because
1) we care MORE about hockey (more Canadians watched the tournament LIVE and on TV than possibly every other nation COMBINED)
2) we put more resources in hockey (the Canadian team had FOUR coaches including even a 'goaltending consultant', as well as a therapist!)
and
3) we have a larger pool of talent from which to choose (in the recent Under 17 World Hockey Challenge, Canada's 5 regional teams finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 9th) though mind you it was a world championship by any means...
1) we care MORE about hockey (more Canadians watched the tournament LIVE and on TV than possibly every other nation COMBINED)
2) we put more resources in hockey (the Canadian team had FOUR coaches including even a 'goaltending consultant', as well as a therapist!)
and
3) we have a larger pool of talent from which to choose (in the recent Under 17 World Hockey Challenge, Canada's 5 regional teams finished 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 9th) though mind you it was a world championship by any means...
Reilly311 said:
Really? Is that why millions tuned in to watch the Women's Gold Medal game? Or why Mario came back for the World Cup?
Classy avatar by the way.
We're the best. What more can I say? Unprecedented domination of all levels of hockey (junior and senior). And with the way we've been churning out elite prospects the past decade (with the exception of 1996, 1999 and 2004), it's not going to end soon.
WU18 really doesn't count. Canada has only been sending teams to that tournament for three years. It's likely the toughest tournament for us to win. Even more difficult than the Worlds. We have a very depleted talent pool to choose from, and the Canadians who are playing in it have just gone though a schedule far more demanding than any European or U.S. junior league.
I care more about the Junior World Cup (held every August with all the world hockey powers), which is a U18 tourney as well. It allows teams to ice their best possible line-ups. For those of you wondering, Canada has won seven of eight years, dating back to its Four Nations days.
For the icing on the cake, Canada has swept the medals at the WU17 the last two years. Proof that the domination is going to continue.
WU18 really doesn't count. Canada has only been sending teams to that tournament for three years. It's likely the toughest tournament for us to win. Even more difficult than the Worlds. We have a very depleted talent pool to choose from, and the Canadians who are playing in it have just gone though a schedule far more demanding than any European or U.S. junior league.
I care more about the Junior World Cup (held every August with all the world hockey powers), which is a U18 tourney as well. It allows teams to ice their best possible line-ups. For those of you wondering, Canada has won seven of eight years, dating back to its Four Nations days.
For the icing on the cake, Canada has swept the medals at the WU17 the last two years. Proof that the domination is going to continue.
God Bless Canada said:
1) So WU18 doesn't count because it is inconvenient for Canada? Way to go...
2) You also contradict yourself nicely:
'And with the way we've been churning out elite prospects the past decade (with the exception of 1996, 1999 and 2004), it's not going to end soon'
As opposed to:
'We have a very depleted talent pool to choose from'
Two examples of nice logic there.
WU18 is a tournament that's easily the most difficult for Canadians to win. We go in it without our best players in that age group, and the team we take has suffered through the rigors of the Canadian Hockey League season (heavy travel, lots of physical play). That tournament is the only one where I don't get upset when Canada doesn't win.
Meanwhile, you take the Junior World Cup, we have our best U18 talent, everyone else has their best talent, and it comes at a time when the rigors of the season haven't been inflicted. I'd say that even if Canada hadn't won it six of the past seven years. And yes, I was more upset when our 1986s lost in the Junior World Cup than the WU18.
The fact is, Canada has been the dominant hockey nation for three years. It is the world's turn to play catch-up, and there are some once-great nations that have a lot farther to go than others.
When I said "we have a depleted talent pool to choose from," I was referring to our team for the spring U18 tournament. Go back to the start of the paragraph to understand the context of what I was saying.
Meanwhile, you take the Junior World Cup, we have our best U18 talent, everyone else has their best talent, and it comes at a time when the rigors of the season haven't been inflicted. I'd say that even if Canada hadn't won it six of the past seven years. And yes, I was more upset when our 1986s lost in the Junior World Cup than the WU18.
The fact is, Canada has been the dominant hockey nation for three years. It is the world's turn to play catch-up, and there are some once-great nations that have a lot farther to go than others.
When I said "we have a depleted talent pool to choose from," I was referring to our team for the spring U18 tournament. Go back to the start of the paragraph to understand the context of what I was saying.
God Bless Canada said:
I've never seen a European nation send their best team there. Sure, there have been some good rosters but never optimized. The tournament is for building the team and testing and grooming players just like the mid-season Junior EHT tournaments, with the goal to have the best possible team in the spring. August is a terrible time for competitive hockey.
It makes sense that the praise for the achievements in all the mentioned tournaments goes to the hockey culture (i.e. Canada is great!) and it's the very same hockey culture that created the tradition of the long season which keeps some of Canada's finest out of the U18 World Championships. The culprit pays the price, so to speak.
Yet when discussing the quality of Canadian hockey on each level, what's relevant is the actual quality, not its indicators. Canada has nothing to worry about.
Do i ever dislike threads like this. I like seeing quality players playing quality hockey- wherever they happen to be from. ... i do like when Canada wins but i am glad other countries take the game seriously and win titles as it pushes everyone to be better.
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