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Canada has now won a staggering 73% of all best vs best tournaments ever played.

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I remember Hasek stopping Yzerman on a breakaway in Nagano. What a heart breaking tournament, Gretzky's last meaningful big game.
 
Last real best-on-best tournament was 2014 Olympics though. In 2016 WC you had exhibition teams like Northern American young players and Team Europe and in 4 Nations this year you didn´t have Russia or Czech Republic.
 
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Peiskos said:
List of International Tournaments featuring best players, there have been 15 now in history. In brackets is the amount of wins, Canada has now won a staggering 11/15 or 73% of all best vs best competition. No other country has ever won more than 1. This is an extraordinary level of dominance.

1. 1972 Summit Series - Canada win (1)
2. 1976 Canada Cup - Canada win (2)
3. 1981 Canada Cup - USSR win (1)
4. 1984 Canada Cup - Canada win (3)
5. 1987 Canada Cup - Canada win (4)
6. 1991 Canada Cup - Canada win (5)
7. 1996 World Cup - USA win (1)
8. 1998 Olympics - Czech win (1)
9. 2002 Olympics - Canada win (6)
10. 2004 World Cup - Canada win (7)
11. 2006 Olympics - Sweden win (1)
12. 2010 Olympics - Canada win (8)
13. 2014 Olympics - Canada win (9)
14. 2016 World Cup - Canada win (10)
15. 2025 4 Nations Cup - Canada win (11)

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Are there any missing? Media reports last night were saying it was 78%.
 
Peiskos said:
List of International Tournaments featuring best players, there have been 15 now in history. In brackets is the amount of wins, Canada has now won a staggering 11/15 or 73% of all best vs best competition. No other country has ever won more than 1. This is an extraordinary level of dominance.

1. 1972 Summit Series - Canada win (1)
2. 1976 Canada Cup - Canada win (2)
3. 1981 Canada Cup - USSR win (1)
4. 1984 Canada Cup - Canada win (3)
5. 1987 Canada Cup - Canada win (4)
6. 1991 Canada Cup - Canada win (5)
7. 1996 World Cup - USA win (1)
8. 1998 Olympics - Czech win (1)
9. 2002 Olympics - Canada win (6)
10. 2004 World Cup - Canada win (7)
11. 2006 Olympics - Sweden win (1)
12. 2010 Olympics - Canada win (8)
13. 2014 Olympics - Canada win (9)
14. 2016 World Cup - Canada win (10)
15. 2025 4 Nations Cup - Canada win (11)
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3/5 for true best-on-best. Still pretty impressive
 
barkovcanfinnish said:
Canada’s stranglehold on best-on-best was really tested here, and while they came out on top, every game turned out to be close, even the Finland one somehow.

It’s not a country that’s head and shoulders above everyone else anymore, which is great for the sport. I can’t wait for the Olympics and see what everyone can do there
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Fully agree. I think we are in the best era of hockey in terms of international competition and last night was proof of that. Both countries are on another level though and a very close match-up for the next few years.

The only tournament in my lifetime where Canada was absolutely dominant was the 2014 Olympics. It felt inevitable that they were going to win it as their team was complete from top to bottom and no other team came close.

It is exciting for hockey to see the kind of talent coming out of the US these days (and other countries).
 
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Wulfgar said:
Last real best-on-best tournament was 2014 Olympics though. In 2016 WC you had exhibition teams like Northern American young players and Team Europe and in 4 Nations this year you didn´t have Russia or Czech Republic.
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This roster is Finland level at BEST.
 
Peiskos said:
List of International Tournaments featuring best players, there have been 15 now in history. In brackets is the amount of wins, Canada has now won a staggering 11/15 or 73% of all best vs best competition. No other country has ever won more than 1. This is an extraordinary level of dominance.

1. 1972 Summit Series - Canada win (1)
2. 1976 Canada Cup - Canada win (2)
3. 1981 Canada Cup - USSR win (1)
4. 1984 Canada Cup - Canada win (3)
5. 1987 Canada Cup - Canada win (4)
6. 1991 Canada Cup - Canada win (5)
7. 1996 World Cup - USA win (1)
8. 1998 Olympics - Czech win (1)
9. 2002 Olympics - Canada win (6)
10. 2004 World Cup - Canada win (7)
11. 2006 Olympics - Sweden win (1)
12. 2010 Olympics - Canada win (8)
13. 2014 Olympics - Canada win (9)
14. 2016 World Cup - Canada win (10)
15. 2025 4 Nations Cup - Canada win (11)

Discuss.
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2025 wasn’t best on best with Russia banned.
 
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Grifter3511 said:
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This roster is Finland level at BEST.
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Yes and that means they still have a few percent chance to win the whole thing. Hopefully next year´s Olympics will be the first real best-on-best tournament in 12 years, but we´ll see with Russia.
 
Peiskos said:
List of International Tournaments featuring best players, there have been 15 now in history. In brackets is the amount of wins, Canada has now won a staggering 11/15 or 73% of all best vs best competition. No other country has ever won more than 1. This is an extraordinary level of dominance.

1. 1972 Summit Series - Canada win (1)
2. 1976 Canada Cup - Canada win (2)
3. 1981 Canada Cup - USSR win (1)
4. 1984 Canada Cup - Canada win (3)
5. 1987 Canada Cup - Canada win (4)
6. 1991 Canada Cup - Canada win (5)
7. 1996 World Cup - USA win (1)
8. 1998 Olympics - Czech win (1)
9. 2002 Olympics - Canada win (6)
10. 2004 World Cup - Canada win (7)
11. 2006 Olympics - Sweden win (1)
12. 2010 Olympics - Canada win (8)
13. 2014 Olympics - Canada win (9)
14. 2016 World Cup - Canada win (10)
15. 2025 4 Nations Cup - Canada win (11)

Discuss.
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You are using a very generous definition for "best-on-best".
 
Urbanskog said:
You are using a very generous definition for "best-on-best".
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I'd call the inclusion of the 1972 Summit Series (and then, for some reason, the exclusion of the 1974 Summit Series, which the Soviets won) pretty questionable myself. The inclusion of the 4 Nations Face-off is also dubious, but only slightly. Still, if you remove this year's tournament and the Summit Series (both of them), that still makes it 9 out of a possible 14. That's nothing to shake a stick at either.
 
BigDaddyLurch said:
...care to expand??... :dunno:
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72 wasn't best on best. Canada couldn't pull from the WHA so were structurally restricted. Also, only two countries.

2016 wasn't best on best. Both Canada and the US weren't allowed to pick under 23s. It basically removed the US from contention. National teams only.

2025 wasn't best on best. No Russia, no Czechia, no Slovakia.

I think you can still group them together as a category. Whether that's best on best tier ii or best on not best. You could include 1974 Summit Series, 1979 Challenge Cup, and Rendezvous 1987 too.

Basically, if you artificially restrict who is allowed to play, it's not best on best.
 
jigglysquishy said:
72 wasn't best on best. Canada couldn't pull from the WHA so were structurally restricted. Also, only two countries.

2016 wasn't best on best. Both Canada and the US weren't allowed to pick under 23s. It basically removed the US from contention. National teams only.

2025 wasn't best on best. No Russia, no Czechia, no Slovakia.

I think you can still group them together as a category. Whether that's best on best tier ii or best on not best. You could include 1974 Summit Series, 1979 Challenge Cup, and Rendezvous 1987 too.

Basically, if you artificially restrict who is allowed to play, it's not best on best.
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We'd have to toss out the Canada Cup and all the World Cups by this definition, then, I think. Weren't they invitational tournaments? At least give countries like Slovenia a chance to qualify, even if they don't.

I'm mostly joking.
 
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jigglysquishy said:
72 wasn't best on best. Canada couldn't pull from the WHA so were structurally restricted. Also, only two countries.

2016 wasn't best on best. Both Canada and the US weren't allowed to pick under 23s. It basically removed the US from contention. National teams only.

2025 wasn't best on best. No Russia, no Czechia, no Slovakia.

I think you can still group them together as a category. Whether that's best on best tier ii or best on not best. You could include 1974 Summit Series, 1979 Challenge Cup, and Rendezvous 1987 too.

Basically, if you artificially restrict who is allowed to play, it's not best on best.
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...that's an awful lot of hair-splitting there, amigo...take your 2016 arguement; Canada couldn't pick McJesus or MacKinnon either and the best were still there...in '72, your arguement is that Canada didn't have it's best and still won while the two teams involved were BY FAR the pinnacle hockey nations at the time...2025 was a showrunner for next year; you wanna call that "best on who was available" go ahead...
 
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