WJC: Canada 2018 Roster Talk

JackSlater

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So why didn't Glass make it?

Well there are a few things, I would think. He wasn't a standout in the super series or in the exhibition games in the camp. He's 18, which Hockey Canada tends to view as a slight negative. He may not be the best fit for the style of play Ducharme employs, where forwards are asked to pressure the puck often with skating. The more cerebral forwards last year weren't so effective for Canada. I may have picked Glass for my team, but his performance in the exhibition games indicates that it isn't like he was robbed of a spot.
 

MrHeiskanen

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Colgate is not some club team. They are better than BU this year. And the ECAC has been comparable to Hockey East for the last five years.
Colgate with 0 drafted players (other than Point) is better than BU with 10 drafted players + TKACHUK? Ok.. lolol
 

TheBeastCoast

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Colgate is not some club team. They are better than BU this year. And the ECAC has been comparable to Hockey East for the last five years.
What? I mean you are right about the ECAC not being as bad as people think it is...but Colgate is objectively a really bad team in that conference and in no way are they better then BU.
 
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CRhockey

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Saying a high end goalie prospect who is posting absurd numbers in the NCAA (which is certainly not a weak league by any means) and is getting high praise from goalie coaches is terrible explains absolutely nothing.

You must be watching a different Colton Point because that is not Point at all and you'll struggle to find anyone (scouts/goalie coaches) who agree with you. Point is a powerful goalie who has learned quickly how best to use the monster frame he's been given which gives him an advantage over many goalies who are still struggling to learn. He's also fine in the quickness department due to his edge control and has an impressive explosive game due to his leg strength. Point's technical abilities are only behind Hart's. DiPietro needs to focus on improving that part of his game in order to be ready as the starter for Team Canada next year.

He was most certainly not outplayed in camp or pre-tournament except for maybe the 2nd U Sports/Canada game. Everyone was raving about his camp and then he helped shutout Team Canada with Carter Hart in impressive fashion. DiPietro's or Harvey's resumes are no more impressive than Point's. The only difference between them is the level of exposure they get especially in DiPietro's case where Windsor got a bye to the Memorial Cup.

I'm more than happy to be the first to criticize Hockey Canada or any organization for their lack of goalie evaluations but in this case I'll be the first to say that Hockey Canada picked the two most talented Canadian goalies available for this tournament.
Agreed. However it wouldn’t have been a bad plan to have Dipietro back up for experience for next years tourney. Either choice I would have been happy with. They picked the team on winning today which is 100% correct.
 

CRhockey

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It's pretty easy actually, Oettinger is pretty clearly the best goalie here by a margin, Woll is the best backup by a margin, it's simple really.
We will see. Oettinger hasn’t been great this year. Woll will probably start as he played last year.
Hart is simply spectacular and was as good as Parsons last year during the final. Hart gets the nod for best goalie entering tournament, no doubt about that.
 

PecnoTrunk

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Agreed. However it wouldn’t have been a bad plan to have Dipietro back up for experience for next years tourney. Either choice I would have been happy with. They picked the team on winning today which is 100% correct.
Exactly this is what the coach said in an interview and it made complete sense.

He basically stated that we picked a wjc team of how the players were playing today and not because how their ceiling will be in 2-3 years as they do when the NHL teams pick in the draft

Or something like that
 

Joe Zanussi

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Colgate with 0 drafted players (other than Point) is better than BU with 10 drafted players + TKACHUK? Ok.. lolol
Im not talking about which players will be better in the NHL. I'm talking about which team is better right now. Colgate is a bunch of 22 and 23 year olds....BU is a bunch if 19-20 year olds. Thats kind of a big deal. BU's players will have longer and better careers for sure. Thats not the arguement. If they played a best of seven right now, it would go 6 or 7 I bet.

I dont know for sure that Colgate is definitively better but I know its not as big a gap as you guys are making it out to be.
 

Joe Zanussi

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What? I mean you are right about the ECAC not being as bad as people think it is...but Colgate is objectively a really bad team in that conference and in no way are they better then BU.
Objectively, according to Pairwise, Colgate is ranked 23rd and BU is 30th

Subjectively, according to the Coaches poll, Colgate is 18th and BU is unranked.

If I'm crazy, I'm not alone.

Again, I dont know which team is absolutely better....but neither do you.
 
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DudeWhereIsMakar

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Canada is losing this year, the cuts of Logan Stanley, Nick Suzuki and Cody Glass are just... wow.

Sweden is winning gold this year, would be amazed if Canada wins bronze.
 

tony d

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Yeah, Stanley won't make or break the team. I don't see us winning Gold but I can see us being a strong medal contender.
 

BigRangy

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Lind is the only player that I feel should have made it but didn't. He's got the swagger that can get a team to give its all when it counts.

Still expecting a medal from these guys. They've got more than enough talent to get it done.
 

PecnoTrunk

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If fabbro doesn't make the trip to buffalo we are in deep trouble

I don't know anything about mahura
Can someone who has extensive viewing of fabbro and mahura please compare the 2

Thanks
 

CRhockey

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I think they are remarkable scorers and I don’t care where they’re drafted but I don’t think they have the ability to take over a game or score goals like some other guys in the tournament.

Finland has Tolvanen who is a pure goal scorer, guy will not struggle to fill the net at all. Canada doesn’t have a pure sniper like him, their secondary scorers don’t match up but Heponiemi and Vesalainen I expect should have strong tournaments too. Tolvanen is the real bread and butter here.

For Sweden, Elias Pettersson, Alex Nylander (who I think will be released) and Lias Andersson all have that type of skill, especially Pettersson and Nylander they’re better than any scorers Canada has and Andersson is right up there.

Russia is going to have Svechnikov, Abramov and Kostin are all high skill players that can really score and dazzle offensively. I wouldn’t be confident any are better than Canada’s but Svechnikov is a pure sniper.

USA has Brown, Mittelstadt and Yamamoto that I would consider as good as anyone on Canada offensively.

No one probably has the depth to matchup 1 through 13 with Canada but I think a lot of teams high end guys are as good or better and you can’t overlook how much playing against men will impact these players, which most of these players play against. They’ll be able to do more against players their own age which will make things a lot of more even then they appear at first glance.
Kyrou and Steel are as good as all those guys. There are no Ovechkin, McDavid, Crosby, Mathews, Laine on any team . All teams are in the same boat. It’s a tournament up for grabs. Maybe Dahlin gives Sweden an edge on best potential prospect?
It looks like it’s going to be a fun tournament.
 
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CRhockey

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Canada is losing this year, the cuts of Logan Stanley, Nick Suzuki and Cody Glass are just... wow.

Sweden is winning gold this year, would be amazed if Canada wins bronze.
Canada May win, or not but it won’t be because of Glass, Suzuki aren’t there. and especially not because of Stanley’s abscence.
I liked Suzuki but next years his time .
So this is the year the Swedes break their curse eh? Swedes win the Best round robin team ever award:)
 

JackSlater

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interesting development.

insurance in the event Fabbro is injured/doesn't recover.


Very interesting. Reminds me of Jeff Carter staying with the Olympic team in 2010 until Getzlaf was fully cleared. I hope that Fabbro can return and play as well as Getzlaf did.
 

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